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Until people start using "religionist" to mean prejudiced against adherents of a religious faith, the reality is that "racist" is really the only word we have to describe the concept


Islamophobe seems to work pretty well for those who wish to rant about that stuff.

Anti-Dentite for those prejudiced against Dentists.



On this basis the writer and producers of the "book of Mormon" should be sent to prison.


The Mormons handled that with remarkable good humour.


Yes, they really took the message that Mormonism ultimately helped make them better people on the chin


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Chuckles1188 wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Until people start using "religionist" to mean prejudiced against adherents of a religious faith, the reality is that "racist" is really the only word we have to describe the concept


Islamophobe seems to work pretty well for those who wish to rant about that stuff.

Anti-Dentite for those prejudiced against Dentists.



On this basis the writer and producers of the "book of Mormon" should be sent to prison.


The Mormons handled that with remarkable good humour.


Yes, they really took the message that Mormonism ultimately helped make them better people on the chin


Sigh.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:06 pm 
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I don't give a f uck what the Mormons thought , I'm offended on their behalf and they should be patronised and protected.


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So is racism now to be considered to be on a scale of seriouness depending on the group that are being "sinned" against?


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Given 'race' has no scientific meaning and is a social construct I'm plumping for Kiwi expat for the answer and any twat who wants to argue otherwise is just trying to oppress me.


Another one of your highly useful interventions. Thanks for your input.

It's got as much use as the shite that is getting spouted all over this thread.


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So is racism now to be considered to be on a scale of seriouness depending on the group that are being "sinned" against?


context innit.

Being mzungu in east africa you experience loads of "racism" but as you are comparatively rich and powerful it's like water off a ducks back.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:24 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
So is racism now to be considered to be on a scale of seriouness depending on the group that are being "sinned" against?



It appears so, though of course we have come up with a name for these groupings especially as "race" has now been banned from usage.

Do you think we should seprate off "beliefs" from real groups , obviously some don't. It's very complex.


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Sefton wrote:
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Given 'race' has no scientific meaning and is a social construct I'm plumping for Kiwi expat for the answer and any twat who wants to argue otherwise is just trying to oppress me.


Another one of your highly useful interventions. Thanks for your input.

It's got as much use as the shite that is getting spouted all over this thread.


Thank you again for another useful input. Much appreciated. :thumbup:


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So is racism now to be considered to be on a scale of seriouness depending on the group that are being "sinned" against?


context innit.

Being mzungu in east africa you experience loads of "racism" but as you are comparatively rich and powerful it's like water off a ducks back.


Are you mzungu?


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Maybe I need an Albanian drug dealing, philosophical dwarf on a bar stool to give it the authenticity that your posts are famed for.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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So is racism now to be considered to be on a scale of seriouness depending on the group that are being "sinned" against?


context innit.

Being mzungu in east africa you experience loads of "racism" but as you are comparatively rich and powerful it's like water off a ducks back.


Are you mzungu?


Aren't we all a little bit mzungu now and then.


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bimboman wrote:
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So is racism now to be considered to be on a scale of seriouness depending on the group that are being "sinned" against?



It appears so, though of course we have come up with a name for these groupings especially as "race" has now been banned from usage.

Do you think we should seprate off "beliefs" from real groups , obviously some don't. It's very complex.

We can only take someones declared beliefs on trust


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Maybe I need an Albanian drug dealing, philosophical dwarf on a bar stool to give it the authenticity that your posts are famed for.


SamShark could dress up for you?


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Sefton wrote:
Maybe I need an Albanian drug dealing, philosophical dwarf on a bar stool to give it the authenticity that your posts are famed for.


Whatever that is supposed to mean.


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ScarfaceClaw wrote:
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Maybe I need an Albanian drug dealing, philosophical dwarf on a bar stool to give it the authenticity that your posts are famed for.


SamShark could dress up for you?

I'll leave it to Houts, he seems to get under Sneaker's skin.


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tbf, quibbling about whether racist is the right word to describe the dickheadery of the guys in the video shouldn't really be the headline.

Those guys were dickheads, and whether it was racist, bigoted, prejudiced, or whatever else, it doesn't really matter. It shouldn't be acceptable behaviour.
Arguing about whether "muslim isn't a race" won't make their behaviour any more acceptable even if it's decided that you can't use racism to describe Islamophobia, Iranian-hate, or calling non-white people monkey and telling them to go back where they came from.

Call it flurovestwearingcocksuckery for all I care at this stage, they're wankers.


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ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
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So is racism now to be considered to be on a scale of seriouness depending on the group that are being "sinned" against?


context innit.

Being mzungu in east africa you experience loads of "racism" but as you are comparatively rich and powerful it's like water off a ducks back.


Are you mzungu?


Aren't we all a little bit mzungu now and then.


I was when I was on safari.


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Turbogoat wrote:
tbf, quibbling about whether racist is the right word to describe the dickheadery of the guys in the video shouldn't really be the headline.

Those guys were dickheads, and whether it was racist, bigoted, prejudiced, or whatever else, it doesn't really matter. It shouldn't be acceptable behaviour.
Arguing about whether "muslim isn't a race" won't make their behaviour any more acceptable even if it's decided that you can't use racism to describe Islamophobia, Iranian-hate, or calling non-white people monkey and telling them to go back where they came from.

Call it flurovestwearingcocksuckery for all I care at this stage, they're wankers.


I don't see anyone arguing against that. In the finest traditions of PR, we have decided to argue about something else, however.


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or calling non-white people monkey



Comparing white people to animals is acceptable then ? Is there a scale of loud where these comparisons are acceptable ?


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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tbf, quibbling about whether racist is the right word to describe the dickheadery of the guys in the video shouldn't really be the headline.

Those guys were dickheads, and whether it was racist, bigoted, prejudiced, or whatever else, it doesn't really matter. It shouldn't be acceptable behaviour.
Arguing about whether "muslim isn't a race" won't make their behaviour any more acceptable even if it's decided that you can't use racism to describe Islamophobia, Iranian-hate, or calling non-white people monkey and telling them to go back where they came from.

Call it flurovestwearingcocksuckery for all I care at this stage, they're wankers.


I don't see anyone arguing against that. In the finest traditions of PR, we have decided to argue about something else, however.


err... I wasn't saying that anyone WAS saying that, just that this is what was getting lost in the semantic quibbling going on.

You've reached the point where you're seeing an argument in every post - maybe it's time for a wee lie down.


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or calling non-white people monkey



Comparing white people to animals is acceptable then ?


No... that was the point. :?


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Turbogoat wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
tbf, quibbling about whether racist is the right word to describe the dickheadery of the guys in the video shouldn't really be the headline.

Those guys were dickheads, and whether it was racist, bigoted, prejudiced, or whatever else, it doesn't really matter. It shouldn't be acceptable behaviour.
Arguing about whether "muslim isn't a race" won't make their behaviour any more acceptable even if it's decided that you can't use racism to describe Islamophobia, Iranian-hate, or calling non-white people monkey and telling them to go back where they came from.

Call it flurovestwearingcocksuckery for all I care at this stage, they're wankers.


I don't see anyone arguing against that. In the finest traditions of PR, we have decided to argue about something else, however.


err... I wasn't saying that anyone WAS saying that, just that this is what was getting lost in the semantic quibbling going on.

You've reached the point where you're seeing an argument in every post - maybe it's time for a wee lie down.


Um, I wasn't making an argument at all. Projecting much?


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Sefton wrote:
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Sefton wrote:
Maybe I need an Albanian drug dealing, philosophical dwarf on a bar stool to give it the authenticity that your posts are famed for.


SamShark could dress up for you?

I'll leave it to Houts, he seems to get under Sneaker's skin.


Like Buffalo Bill? It rubs the lotion on its skin etc.


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Turbogoat wrote:
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or calling non-white people monkey



Comparing white people to animals is acceptable then ?


No... that was the point. :?



Oh right, that's not of course what you typed but as everything is so fluid I'll accept you meant white as well as non white people.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
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tbf, quibbling about whether racist is the right word to describe the dickheadery of the guys in the video shouldn't really be the headline.

Those guys were dickheads, and whether it was racist, bigoted, prejudiced, or whatever else, it doesn't really matter. It shouldn't be acceptable behaviour.
Arguing about whether "muslim isn't a race" won't make their behaviour any more acceptable even if it's decided that you can't use racism to describe Islamophobia, Iranian-hate, or calling non-white people monkey and telling them to go back where they came from.

Call it flurovestwearingcocksuckery for all I care at this stage, they're wankers.


I don't see anyone arguing against that. In the finest traditions of PR, we have decided to argue about something else, however.


err... I wasn't saying that anyone WAS saying that, just that this is what was getting lost in the semantic quibbling going on.

You've reached the point where you're seeing an argument in every post - maybe it's time for a wee lie down.


Um, I wasn't making an argument at all. Projecting much?


Probably :D

Might have read a bit much into your opening sentence, where you said you don't see anyone arguing against that.

You realize we are now arguing about not arguing about stuff? Gawd help us both.


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bimboman wrote:
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or calling non-white people monkey



Comparing white people to animals is acceptable then ?


No... that was the point. :?



Oh right, that's not of course what you typed but as everything is so fluid I'll accept you meant white as well as non white people.


I can only write stuff for you, I can't comprehend them for you.


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Turbogoat wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
tbf, quibbling about whether racist is the right word to describe the dickheadery of the guys in the video shouldn't really be the headline.

Those guys were dickheads, and whether it was racist, bigoted, prejudiced, or whatever else, it doesn't really matter. It shouldn't be acceptable behaviour.
Arguing about whether "muslim isn't a race" won't make their behaviour any more acceptable even if it's decided that you can't use racism to describe Islamophobia, Iranian-hate, or calling non-white people monkey and telling them to go back where they came from.

Call it flurovestwearingcocksuckery for all I care at this stage, they're wankers.


I don't see anyone arguing against that. In the finest traditions of PR, we have decided to argue about something else, however.


err... I wasn't saying that anyone WAS saying that, just that this is what was getting lost in the semantic quibbling going on.

You've reached the point where you're seeing an argument in every post - maybe it's time for a wee lie down.


Um, I wasn't making an argument at all. Projecting much?


Probably :D

Might have read a bit much into your opening sentence, where you said you don't see anyone arguing against that.

You realize we are now arguing about not arguing about stuff? Gawd help us both.


No no. I'm not. Definitely not.


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JM2K6 wrote:
Isn't Africa the most genetically diverse continent?


Yes, but a lot of people like bimbo still think phenotyic difference correrates highly with genetic differences.


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Isn't Africa the most genetically diverse continent?


Yes, but a lot of people like bimbo still think phenotyic difference correrates highly with genetic differences.



No I don't, and nothing I've said demonstrates such a belief. I tend to think of these disgraceful accusations of my thinking as deflection from the accusers beliefs and thoughts.

Lots of disgraceful people use a tactic like this as it covers their own behaviours and guilt.


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I'm not sure what is being suggested but I'm quite confident that Bimbo has never displayed any bigoted or racist attitude on this forum and holds no such views personally.


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I'm not sure what is being suggested but I'm quite confident that Bimbo has never displayed any bigoted or racist attitude on this forum and holds no such views personally.


Whereas you have a history of seeing those attitudes where they do exist.


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Mick Mannock wrote:
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I'm not sure what is being suggested but I'm quite confident that Bimbo has never displayed any bigoted or racist attitude on this forum and holds no such views personally.


Whereas you have a history of seeing those attitudes where they do exist.

Thanks, Mick. :thumbup:


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Why do we not categorise humans using the same systems as we do for other animals? Is it purely because we are the ones doing the categorisations and think we are different?


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Why do we not categorise humans using the same systems as we do for other animals? Is it purely because we are the ones doing the categorisations and think we are different?

Speak to any biologist and they'll tell you the categorisation of animals isn't that clear cut.


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bimboman wrote:
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Isn't Africa the most genetically diverse continent?


Yes, but a lot of people like bimbo still think phenotyic difference correrates highly with genetic differences.



No I don't, and nothing I've said demonstrates such a belief. I tend to think of these disgraceful accusations of my thinking as deflection from the accusers beliefs and thoughts.

Lots of disgraceful people use a tactic like this as it covers their own behaviours and guilt.


So what was your Sickle Cell point about?


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Why do we not categorise humans using the same systems as we do for other animals? Is it purely because we are the ones doing the categorisations and think we are different?


Humans weren't deliberately bred to fit into specific roles


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Chuckles1188 wrote:
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Why do we not categorise humans using the same systems as we do for other animals? Is it purely because we are the ones doing the categorisations and think we are different?


Humans weren't deliberately bred to fit into specific roles


Most animals were not either.


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Mick Mannock wrote:
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Why do we not categorise humans using the same systems as we do for other animals? Is it purely because we are the ones doing the categorisations and think we are different?


Humans weren't deliberately bred to fit into specific roles


Most animals were not either.

Apart from all domesticated animals


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