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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:06 pm 
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Well kiwis at least it's not as bad as 2016.

Meh. 2 of the last 3 ain't bad and last years was dominant.

The thing about U20 is every year it's almost a clean slate, this just wasn't one of our better vintages. Not to take anything away from the amazing French performance either but Aus looked very good against us too, especially in the forwards.


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Just went back to look at what happened to Carbonnel that got him so incensed and calling for TMO....

The camera changes at the point of impact, but it looked nothing to me, ran into two forwards turning to go back to the kicked ball and came off worst. The didn’t seem to change line or do anything to inflict injury upon him...

I though the calling for foul play and cards was totally football, totally wrong, and should be stamped out in accordance with the law and spirit of the game.
These kids are the future of the game..... Even the f**king coach was calling for a card on camera.


yes, hate that so much, time to card players that ask for cards.... it’s threatened but never done


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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There's no way France should lose against an injured and homesick England

That was the general consensus before the 6 N game. Unfortunately it looked as though the French kids also believed it before they walked on the park....won't happen again, I don't think.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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It would be amazing if Japan beat Ireland


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Torquemada 1420 wrote:
Not a good sign. Mashed in the scrum.v :(


Would take a sign like that again...

Baby Blacks did well to hold on as their backs looked dangerous as France tired.

The butchered second try decided it.

Should be a great final. Le P'tit Crunch.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Andalu wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Well kiwis at least it's not as bad as 2016.

Meh. 2 of the last 3 ain't bad and last years was dominant.

The thing about U20 is every year it's almost a clean slate, this just wasn't one of our better vintages. Not to take anything away from the amazing French performance either but Aus looked very good against us too, especially in the forwards.

And no doubt enough of these players will go through to be full all blacks.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Just went back to look at what happened to Carbonnel that got him so incensed and calling for TMO....

The camera changes at the point of impact, but it looked nothing to me, ran into two forwards turning to go back to the kicked ball and came off worst. The didn’t seem to change line or do anything to inflict injury upon him...


I knew there was nothing in it as the French in control of the broadcast pictures would still be replaying it now.

They replayed nothing. Including the NZ incident at that ruck which merited at least a look.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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It would be amazing if Japan beat Ireland


It would be funny, but having said that, we were one decent performance away from being down in that bracket as well...so probably shouldn't laugh that hard.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Just went back to look at what happened to Carbonnel that got him so incensed and calling for TMO....

The camera changes at the point of impact, but it looked nothing to me, ran into two forwards turning to go back to the kicked ball and came off worst. The didn’t seem to change line or do anything to inflict injury upon him...

I though the calling for foul play and cards was totally football, totally wrong, and should be stamped out in accordance with the law and spirit of the game.
These kids are the future of the game..... Even the f**king coach was calling for a card on camera.


yes, hate that so much, time to card players that ask for cards.... it’s threatened but never done

Fre coach was doing the same. Do. Not. Like. This. Trend. At. All. :thumbdown:


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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shereblue wrote:
Torquemada 1420 wrote:
Not a good sign. Mashed in the scrum.v :(


Would take a sign like that again...

Baby Blacks did well to hold on as their backs looked dangerous as France tired.

The butchered second try decided it.

Should be a great final. Le P'tit Crunch.


I picked France by 6. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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bessantj wrote:
Andalu wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Well kiwis at least it's not as bad as 2016.

Meh. 2 of the last 3 ain't bad and last years was dominant.

The thing about U20 is every year it's almost a clean slate, this just wasn't one of our better vintages. Not to take anything away from the amazing French performance either but Aus looked very good against us too, especially in the forwards.

And no doubt enough of these players will go through to be full all blacks.


each team generally produce some. Some more, some less.

France were incredible. well played and if they match that performance in the final then it should be a good night


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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It would be amazing if Japan beat Ireland


It would be funny, but having said that, we were one decent performance away from being down in that bracket as well...so probably shouldn't laugh that hard.


F*ck it Jeff, we're all having semis. Let's laugh at the Micks.


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Does the loser of Japan vs Ireland get automatically relegated or do they play-off against the winner of the U20 trophy?


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Anonymous. wrote:
It would be amazing if Japan beat Ireland


Not going to happen..... Japan’s chance to stay up was tonight, they fancied Georgia, and came close. ... they are gutted....

Styles make fights and Ireland have the winning of that game.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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englishchief wrote:
Does the loser of Japan vs Ireland get automatically relegated or do they play-off against the winner of the U20 trophy?


I think it's a straight relegation.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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englishchief wrote:
Does the loser of Japan vs Ireland get automatically relegated or do they play-off against the winner of the U20 trophy?


Automatically


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Anonymous. wrote:
It would be amazing if Japan beat Ireland


An appalling vista, as Lord Denning would have said ...

But maybe we should act so desperate to resort to the head-hunting, marginal plays that are required when you are in a near-humiliation prospect ...


But let's hope in fact to win the game fair and square ... it would be our way in any case ... :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Cracking game, NZ just couldn't get into it. Glimmer of hope at the end and I think they did bloody well against a superior team playing in front of a vocal home crowd. I'd prefer to give a lot more credit to France than have a go at NZ, they were given very little option to do their thing and did f'n well to be almost in it at the end.

They were lucky to hold off the French outfit last year!

I'll be heading up there Sunday and while disappointed to not see NZ in the final, given it's in France and against England I can imagine the atmosphere won't be disappointing!


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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englishchief wrote:
Does the loser of Japan vs Ireland get automatically relegated or do they play-off against the winner of the U20 trophy?

Automatic, JWRT winner is promoted


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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NZ captain may have set a world record for “Most cliches in a post match interview”.
I’ll try and get Guinness to ratify it.


I just went through the day's highlights and the Scotland skipper made me groan as he dropped quite a few, including 'stick to our structures and play in the right places' at the end of the interview.

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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Torquemada 1420 wrote:
fatcat wrote:
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Just went back to look at what happened to Carbonnel that got him so incensed and calling for TMO....

The camera changes at the point of impact, but it looked nothing to me, ran into two forwards turning to go back to the kicked ball and came off worst. The didn’t seem to change line or do anything to inflict injury upon him...


I knew there was nothing in it as the French in control of the broadcast pictures would still be replaying it now.

They replayed nothing. Including the NZ incident at that ruck which merited at least a look.


The TMO looked at it and told the ref it was shoulder and just a penalty. They didn't show the replays he looking at.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Would have liked to see NZ go for a Hail Mary kick play 2 mins out. A last minute try was never going to help them.

Yeah,but that would take someone in the team set-up thinking.
Not much of that from NZ tonight.


Did anyone think they should've kicked the penalty in front (albeit 40m) with 2 minutes to go and take the kickoff with a chance to win? The time it was going to take to score a try was always going to end the game.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Unfortunately missed this but sounds like a very impressive French performance :thumbup:

Non (auto corrected from Bon :lol: ) chance for the Final.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.

Their clubs have 'academies' all over the world...something to do with getting around their new rules on French qualified players in the top 14


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Andalu wrote:
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Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


was never the case, we have always had what was needed, it was juts a policy from the clubs... which killed our rugby.


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Must say the Welsh lad who reffed a couple of England games is very good for this level.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Any Fr players that really stood out?


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Any Fr players that really stood out?

They have half a dozen superb players, hard to single out someone. and tbh I didn't bother to listen to last names :blush:


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Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.


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Any Fr players that really stood out?

Joseph, Bambi and Lavault


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Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.


we've seen you trying to troll the other thread !


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Well done France. Controlled the game well, BBs had no answer. Now win the final, if you've got anything left in the tank.


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Any Fr players that really stood out?

Joseph, Bambi and Lavault


We will all hear from them regularly in the future ... if they stay healthy ... very impressive amongst many exceptionally talented players ...

I was thinking of sidling up to Bambi for an arm-wrestle contest, but just thought "Nah !" ... He's young and it might affect, etc ... ;)


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Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.

this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.


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Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.

this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.

They could always come.down here for some naturalisation... I mean education.


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Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.


we've seen you trying to troll the other thread !


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Take the praise you fcuking clown


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The Native wrote:
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The Native wrote:
Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.

this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.

They could always come.down here for some naturalisation... I mean education.

Lol
You know what? To spend a year with a NZ pro team is the dream of a lot of French rugby players...only a dream.


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Noticed that Japan has a few Polynesian names in the squad. (Nicholas Hohua, Asipeli Moala, Sioeli Vakalahi, Halatoa Vailea, Siosala Fifita)

They scholarship kids or maybe sons of pros who settled?


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