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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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How is the NZ captain balding at 19? NZ now doing age cheating?


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Toro wrote:
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Just went back to look at what happened to Carbonnel that got him so incensed and calling for TMO....

The camera changes at the point of impact, but it looked nothing to me, ran into two forwards turning to go back to the kicked ball and came off worst. The didn’t seem to change line or do anything to inflict injury upon him...


I knew there was nothing in it as the French in control of the broadcast pictures would still be replaying it now.

They replayed nothing. Including the NZ incident at that ruck which merited at least a look.


The TMO looked at it and told the ref it was shoulder and just a penalty. They didn't show the replays he looking at.


Different incident as there was no penalty given.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Would have liked to see NZ go for a Hail Mary kick play 2 mins out. A last minute try was never going to help them.

Yeah,but that would take someone in the team set-up thinking.
Not much of that from NZ tonight.


Did anyone think they should've kicked the penalty in front (albeit 40m) with 2 minutes to go and take the kickoff with a chance to win? The time it was going to take to score a try was always going to end the game.


Yes, I was screaming for them to do that..... Make it a one score game at any opportunity, that puts the pressure on


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Noticed that Japan has a few Polynesian names in the squad. (Nicholas Hohua, Asipeli Moala, Sioeli Vakalahi, Halatoa Vailea, Siosala Fifita)

They scholarship kids or maybe sons of pros who settled?


Nicholas is definitely a scholarship player, from Auckland, going to University up in Hokkaido, but has not been well treated at this tournament.

They are all Kiwis as opposed to Islanders at birth

The others I believe scholarships, but cannot say 100%


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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How is the NZ captain balding at 19? NZ now doing age cheating?

Too much testosterone brah.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Well done Baby Froggies. :thumbup:

It sounds like that was a comprehensive beating no reflected in the final score.


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Noticed that Japan has a few Polynesian names in the squad. (Nicholas Hohua, Asipeli Moala, Sioeli Vakalahi, Halatoa Vailea, Siosala Fifita)

They scholarship kids or maybe sons of pros who settled?


Nicholas is definitely a scholarship player, from Auckland, going to University up in Hokkaido, but has not been well treated at this tournament.

They are all Kiwis as opposed to Islanders at birth

The others I believe scholarships, but cannot say 100%

Is he Maori, as opposed to Islander?


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Well done Baby Froggies. :thumbup:

It sounds like that was a comprehensive beating no reflected in the final score.


Yep it was all the French for 60 minutes but they were toothless. Then it was all the baby sheep shaggers but they were frantic


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Helluva performance by French side excellent at set piece and in their phase play, some real talent in that side, NZ showed good character not to be rolled by more to be honest.

The young ‘Frenchman’ interviewed on World Rugby’s FB page post match was quite amusing aided by having a very Irish sounding accent!


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I noticed on twatter that all the most vocal AB critics post the weekend have been extolling the referees performance in the semi.

:lol:

The ref could've been 16th man for the Baby Blacks and France would've still won.


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Well done Baby Froggies. :thumbup:

It sounds like that was a comprehensive beating no reflected in the final score.


Yep it was all the French for 60 minutes but they were toothless. Then it was all the baby sheep shaggers but they were frantic


Up your game c*ntlips... ;)


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Ted. wrote:
Well done Baby Froggies. :thumbup:

It sounds like that was a comprehensive beating no reflected in the final score.


Yep it was all the French for 60 minutes but they were toothless. Then it was all the baby sheep shaggers but they were frantic

:thumbup:
Hopefully catch a replay over the next day or so. I watched the Argie v Wales game and forgot to set record :blush:


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Onya France......ground out a good win thee with some big units in the pack......best wishes for the final.....


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Just saw the news report. Those Frenchies are massive. The Soviets would be so proud 8)


Anyway I might watch the final. Looks set to be a good match.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.

this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.


This.

Such a shame to see raw talent transformed into brainless, bosh merchants...

Still. A good result for a group this group of lads that have been togethther for 3/4 years now.

The rematch of the "Baby Le Crunch" against the English in Béziers should be good.


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Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.

Hah. That has always been true but we've covered this ground many times.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Peaches wrote:
How is the NZ captain balding at 19? NZ now doing age cheating?


I was wondering why the NZ captain didn't post in the "when did you loose your hair" thread. His was before some posters in their 50s.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.

this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.


This.

Such a shame to see raw talent transformed into brainless, bosh merchants...

Still. A good result for a group this group of lads that have been togethther for 3/4 years now.

The rematch of the "Baby Le Crunch" against the English in Béziers should be good.

That has always been true. I can recall 2 exceptional Fre grade teams and many of the players became intls (most became club pros) but usual story of
- converted to bosh
- too much rugby
- poor fitness levels

FWIW, the first 40 mins of Fra v SA was the best exhibition of rugby I've ever seen at this level by anyone.


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Laurent wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent


I'm trying to place which region of France that accent is from?


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eldanielfire wrote:
Laurent wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent


I'm trying to place which region of France that accent is from?

County Kildare


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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eldanielfire wrote:
Laurent wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent


I'm trying to place which region of France that accent is from?

In French he has a Toulouse one :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: JRWC 2018 - France
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Andalu wrote:
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Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064


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Kid A wrote:
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064

Good to see everyone is on the same page. :thumbup:


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Kid A wrote:
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064


Our guys are mostly playing club rugby with some wider training squad NPC engagement.


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Laurent wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent


Son of a former Ireland intl.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/a ... d=12069771


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Bayern wrote:
Laurent wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent


Son of a former Ireland intl.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/a ... d=12069771

Seriously ?

color me surprised


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Kid A wrote:
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Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064


Or are clued up to know that recently France has taken measures to change this and your stats are baloney. A squad of 30 french men with Irish and Islander accents ( That in itself is :lol: ) isn't going to be an overall reflection of a league over 600-700 players.

Also this is an exceptional French youth team and not a great (by their standards) NZ side. A one off measure that sin't even representative of the leagues is not a trend.


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bessantj wrote:
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Well kiwis at least it's not as bad as 2016.

Meh. 2 of the last 3 ain't bad and last years was dominant.

The thing about U20 is every year it's almost a clean slate, this just wasn't one of our better vintages. Not to take anything away from the amazing French performance either but Aus looked very good against us too, especially in the forwards.

And no doubt enough of these players will go through to be full all blacks.


Or at the very least, they'll play international rugby for someone.


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Kid A wrote:
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064


Or are clued up to know that recently France has taken measures to change this and your stats are baloney. A squad of 30 french men with Irish and Islander accents ( That in itself is :lol: ) isn't going to be an overall reflection of a league over 600-700 players.

Also this is an exceptional French youth team and not a great (by their standards) NZ side. A one off measure that sin't even representative of the leagues is not a trend.

The lad with the Irish accent is French tbf.


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So when do NZ and SA play for 3rd? Will be interesting to see the result of that game.


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eldanielfire wrote:
Kid A wrote:
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064


Or are clued up to know that recently France has taken measures to change this and your stats are baloney. A squad of 30 french men with Irish and Islander accents ( That in itself is :lol: ) isn't going to be an overall reflection of a league over 600-700 players.

Also this is an exceptional French youth team and not a great (by their standards) NZ side. A one off measure that sin't even representative of the leagues is not a trend.


Firstly, they're not my stats. Secondly, how are they "baloney"? You're talking nonsense yet again.


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Would have thought all the neutrals would be cheering for the underdogs in the final. Strange.


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Kid A wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Kid A wrote:
Andalu wrote:
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Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.

Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.


This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064


Or are clued up to know that recently France has taken measures to change this and your stats are baloney. A squad of 30 french men with Irish and Islander accents ( That in itself is :lol: ) isn't going to be an overall reflection of a league over 600-700 players.

Also this is an exceptional French youth team and not a great (by their standards) NZ side. A one off measure that sin't even representative of the leagues is not a trend.


Firstly, they're not my stats. Secondly, how are they "baloney"? You're talking nonsense yet again.


The argument you put forward is baloney, not the stats.


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The argument you put forward is baloney, not the stats.


eldanielfire wrote:
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Riiiight.


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Would have thought all the neutrals would be cheering for the underdogs in the final. Strange.

So France....

Thank you Mr SAFA


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eldanielfire wrote:
Laurent wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent


I'm trying to place which region of France that accent is from?


Brennan family lives in Toulouse northern suburbs... Obviously there's something in their culture that directed them towards a certain type of business.

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My sister in law lives a few hundred meters away from Brennan's.


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Trevor's three sons play for Stade Toulousain, Daniel is the eldest.


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So when do NZ and SA play for 3rd? Will be interesting to see the result of that game.


New Zealand will win it.

France are the best side in the tournament, and I think NZ are second.

England, South Africa and Australia (despite their first game) are all around the same level - ahead of the rest and behind the front runners.


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Managed to catch the game. The French absolutely destroyed the NZ scrum and showed some serious passion in defense.

Well done, France. Good luck in the final!


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