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Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:46 pm
by jolindien
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.
Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.
was never the case, we have always had what was needed, it was juts a policy from the clubs... which killed our rugby.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:49 pm
by message #2527204
Must say the Welsh lad who reffed a couple of England games is very good for this level.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:50 pm
by Masterji
Any Fr players that really stood out?

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:54 pm
by FullbackAce
Masterji wrote:Any Fr players that really stood out?
They have half a dozen superb players, hard to single out someone. and tbh I didn't bother to listen to last names :blush:

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:55 pm
by The Native
Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:56 pm
by message #2527204
Masterji wrote:Any Fr players that really stood out?
Joseph, Bambi and Lavault

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:59 pm
by jolindien
The Native wrote:Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.
we've seen you trying to troll the other thread !

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:02 pm
by obelixtim
Well done France. Controlled the game well, BBs had no answer. Now win the final, if you've got anything left in the tank.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:04 pm
by Botha Boy
message #2527204 wrote:
Masterji wrote:Any Fr players that really stood out?
Joseph, Bambi and Lavault
We will all hear from them regularly in the future ... if they stay healthy ... very impressive amongst many exceptionally talented players ...

I was thinking of sidling up to Bambi for an arm-wrestle contest, but just thought "Nah !" ... He's young and it might affect, etc ... ;)

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:20 pm
by lexpat
The Native wrote:Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.
this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:44 pm
by The Native
lexpat wrote:
The Native wrote:Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.
this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.
They could always come.down here for some naturalisation... I mean education.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:05 am
by maxbox
jolindien wrote:
The Native wrote:Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.
we've seen you trying to troll the other thread !
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Take the praise you fcuking clown

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:19 am
by lexpat
The Native wrote:
lexpat wrote:
The Native wrote:Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.
this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.
They could always come.down here for some naturalisation... I mean education.
Lol
You know what? To spend a year with a NZ pro team is the dream of a lot of French rugby players...only a dream.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:21 am
by Nieghorn
Noticed that Japan has a few Polynesian names in the squad. (Nicholas Hohua, Asipeli Moala, Sioeli Vakalahi, Halatoa Vailea, Siosala Fifita)

They scholarship kids or maybe sons of pros who settled?

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:09 am
by Bobcock
Toro wrote:
Torquemada 1420 wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Bobcock wrote:Just went back to look at what happened to Carbonnel that got him so incensed and calling for TMO....

The camera changes at the point of impact, but it looked nothing to me, ran into two forwards turning to go back to the kicked ball and came off worst. The didn’t seem to change line or do anything to inflict injury upon him...
I knew there was nothing in it as the French in control of the broadcast pictures would still be replaying it now.
They replayed nothing. Including the NZ incident at that ruck which merited at least a look.
The TMO looked at it and told the ref it was shoulder and just a penalty. They didn't show the replays he looking at.
Different incident as there was no penalty given.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:11 am
by Bobcock
Toro wrote:
BBB wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:Would have liked to see NZ go for a Hail Mary kick play 2 mins out. A last minute try was never going to help them.
Yeah,but that would take someone in the team set-up thinking.
Not much of that from NZ tonight.
Did anyone think they should've kicked the penalty in front (albeit 40m) with 2 minutes to go and take the kickoff with a chance to win? The time it was going to take to score a try was always going to end the game.
Yes, I was screaming for them to do that..... Make it a one score game at any opportunity, that puts the pressure on

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:14 am
by Bobcock
Nieghorn wrote:Noticed that Japan has a few Polynesian names in the squad. (Nicholas Hohua, Asipeli Moala, Sioeli Vakalahi, Halatoa Vailea, Siosala Fifita)

They scholarship kids or maybe sons of pros who settled?
Nicholas is definitely a scholarship player, from Auckland, going to University up in Hokkaido, but has not been well treated at this tournament.

They are all Kiwis as opposed to Islanders at birth

The others I believe scholarships, but cannot say 100%

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:14 am
by The Native
Peaches wrote:How is the NZ captain balding at 19? NZ now doing age cheating?
Too much testosterone brah.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:30 am
by Ted.
Well done Baby Froggies. :thumbup:

It sounds like that was a comprehensive beating no reflected in the final score.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:44 am
by UncleFB
Bobcock wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:Noticed that Japan has a few Polynesian names in the squad. (Nicholas Hohua, Asipeli Moala, Sioeli Vakalahi, Halatoa Vailea, Siosala Fifita)

They scholarship kids or maybe sons of pros who settled?
Nicholas is definitely a scholarship player, from Auckland, going to University up in Hokkaido, but has not been well treated at this tournament.

They are all Kiwis as opposed to Islanders at birth

The others I believe scholarships, but cannot say 100%
Is he Maori, as opposed to Islander?

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:54 am
by Anonymous 1
Ted. wrote:Well done Baby Froggies. :thumbup:

It sounds like that was a comprehensive beating no reflected in the final score.
Yep it was all the French for 60 minutes but they were toothless. Then it was all the baby sheep shaggers but they were frantic

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:01 am
by jimmy speights
Helluva performance by French side excellent at set piece and in their phase play, some real talent in that side, NZ showed good character not to be rolled by more to be honest.

The young ‘Frenchman’ interviewed on World Rugby’s FB page post match was quite amusing aided by having a very Irish sounding accent!

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:17 am
by The Native
I noticed on twatter that all the most vocal AB critics post the weekend have been extolling the referees performance in the semi.

:lol:

The ref could've been 16th man for the Baby Blacks and France would've still won.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:21 am
by maxbox
Anonymous. wrote:
Ted. wrote:Well done Baby Froggies. :thumbup:

It sounds like that was a comprehensive beating no reflected in the final score.
Yep it was all the French for 60 minutes but they were toothless. Then it was all the baby sheep shaggers but they were frantic
Up your game c*ntlips... ;)

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:48 am
by terangi48
Onya France......ground out a good win thee with some big units in the pack......best wishes for the final.....

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:08 am
by Auckman
Just saw the news report. Those Frenchies are massive. The Soviets would be so proud 8)


Anyway I might watch the final. Looks set to be a good match.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:19 am
by Laurent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:50 am
by clementinfrance
lexpat wrote:
The Native wrote:Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.
this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.
This.

Such a shame to see raw talent transformed into brainless, bosh merchants...

Still. A good result for a group this group of lads that have been togethther for 3/4 years now.

The rematch of the "Baby Le Crunch" against the English in Béziers should be good.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:24 am
by Torquemada 1420
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.
Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.
Hah. That has always been true but we've covered this ground many times.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:28 am
by eldanielfire
Peaches wrote:How is the NZ captain balding at 19? NZ now doing age cheating?
I was wondering why the NZ captain didn't post in the "when did you loose your hair" thread. His was before some posters in their 50s.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:29 am
by Torquemada 1420
clementinfrance wrote:
lexpat wrote:
The Native wrote:Well done bébés français. Was following on the NZ Herald blog and it read like they were unequivocally the better team.
this evening they were the better team, they showed a lot of things that the EDF senior A team haven't shown for years: passes, guts, ambition, team spirit etc. Too bad all of this will stop as soon as they spend a couple years with some Top14 clubs or with the morons in charge of the FFR.
This.

Such a shame to see raw talent transformed into brainless, bosh merchants...

Still. A good result for a group this group of lads that have been togethther for 3/4 years now.

The rematch of the "Baby Le Crunch" against the English in Béziers should be good.
That has always been true. I can recall 2 exceptional Fre grade teams and many of the players became intls (most became club pros) but usual story of
- converted to bosh
- too much rugby
- poor fitness levels

FWIW, the first 40 mins of Fra v SA was the best exhibition of rugby I've ever seen at this level by anyone.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:31 am
by eldanielfire
Laurent wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent
I'm trying to place which region of France that accent is from?

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:34 am
by Torquemada 1420
eldanielfire wrote:
Laurent wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent
I'm trying to place which region of France that accent is from?
County Kildare

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:18 am
by Laurent
eldanielfire wrote:
Laurent wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent
I'm trying to place which region of France that accent is from?
In French he has a Toulouse one :lol:

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:55 am
by Kid A
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.
Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.
This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:58 am
by Andalu
Kid A wrote:
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.
Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.
This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064
Good to see everyone is on the same page. :thumbup:

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:59 am
by mr bungle
Kid A wrote:
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.
Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.
This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064
Our guys are mostly playing club rugby with some wider training squad NPC engagement.

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:08 am
by Bayern
Laurent wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent
Son of a former Ireland intl.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/a ... d=12069771

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:09 am
by Laurent
Bayern wrote:
Laurent wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkgznth17U

daniel :lol:

such a thick irish accent
Son of a former Ireland intl.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/a ... d=12069771
Seriously ?

color me surprised

Re: JRWC 2018 - France

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:12 am
by eldanielfire
Kid A wrote:
Andalu wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Awesome effort, France! Hopefully this bodes well for a new generation coming through for RWC2023.
Yes, clearly their up and comers are the future, no need to recruit from other countries anymore.
This stat shows that those blaming the Top14's foreign imports on the lack of French youth appearances in France and the decline of the French national team are absolutely clueless:

"Of the France U20 23 today 18 played senior pro rugby for their clubs this season, between them 175 matches, 81 starts, 7223 minutes. Easily the most of any side in the comp. By comparison NZ U20 had 11 who played ITM Cup rugby, between them 48 matches, 23 starts, 2219 minutes."

https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006650037387096064
Or are clued up to know that recently France has taken measures to change this and your stats are baloney. A squad of 30 french men with Irish and Islander accents ( That in itself is :lol: ) isn't going to be an overall reflection of a league over 600-700 players.

Also this is an exceptional French youth team and not a great (by their standards) NZ side. A one off measure that sin't even representative of the leagues is not a trend.