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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:48 am 
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Just discussing at the moment

And assume in DC not Washington state

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/42434744


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:40 am 
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It'll be good to manshame the Boks on a different continent.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:39 am 
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A good idea from our perspective - develop some depth and get the lads together for an expanded period and away from their shithouse regional coaches.

Awful idea from the growing the game perspective. The shitshow those two ladle-wielding spackers put on could put the game back 20 years in the US.


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I'm sure young American lads will fall in love with rugby after watching Jamie Roberts hurtle at full flight in to a wall of bodies for a 3 inch gain line win.


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Jeff the Bear wrote:
It'll be good to manshame the Boks on a different continent.


I'd be shocked if we took our strongest a contingent. A nuber of the Lions players would probably want a rest. At least Owens, AWJ and Liam at least. I wonder if he will take Webb on his last set of internationals (at least for the next 3 years)?? It still seems peculiar that it is happening. JD and Warbs may want game time due to injury forced absence.


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I'm sure young American lads will fall in love with rugby after watching Jamie Roberts hurtle at full flight in to a wall of bodies for a 3 inch gain line win.


My boys play for a junior rugby team in the DC area with predominantly Bok coaches. Pushing 75+ kids. We'll definitely being going as a group.


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Jeff the Bear wrote:
It'll be good to manshame the Boks on a different continent.


I'd be shocked if we took our strongest a contingent. A nuber of the Lions players would probably want a rest. At least Owens, AWJ and Liam at least. I wonder if he will take Webb on his last set of internationals (at least for the next 3 years)?? It still seems peculiar that it is happening. JD and Warbs may want game time due to injury forced absence.


Right enough. I see what you are saying. I'd tend to agree...maybe we should only take our D team to give the Saffers a chance.


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LandOTurk wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
It'll be good to manshame the Boks on a different continent.


I'd be shocked if we took our strongest a contingent. A nuber of the Lions players would probably want a rest. At least Owens, AWJ and Liam at least. I wonder if he will take Webb on his last set of internationals (at least for the next 3 years)?? It still seems peculiar that it is happening. JD and Warbs may want game time due to injury forced absence.


Outside the test window so the foreign based players won't be available


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:29 pm 
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Wales squad:

Forwards: Rob Evans (Scarlets), Wyn Jones (Scarlets), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Elliot Dee (Dragons), Ryan Elias (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Bradley Davies (Ospreys), Seb Davies (Cardiff Blues), Luke Charteris (Bath), Cory Hill (Dragons, co-captain), James Davies (Scarlets), Ellis Jenkins (Cardiff Blues, co-captain), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets)

Backs: Aled Davies (Scarlets), Gareth Davies (Scarlets), Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Rhys Patchell (Scarlets), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Owen Watkin (Ospreys), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Josh Adams (Worcester Warriors), Hallam Amos (Dragons), Steff Evans (Scarlets), George North (Northampton Saints), Tom Prydie (Scarlets)


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Jeff the Bear wrote:
LandOTurk wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
It'll be good to manshame the Boks on a different continent.


I'd be shocked if we took our strongest a contingent. A nuber of the Lions players would probably want a rest. At least Owens, AWJ and Liam at least. I wonder if he will take Webb on his last set of internationals (at least for the next 3 years)?? It still seems peculiar that it is happening. JD and Warbs may want game time due to injury forced absence.


Right enough. I see what you are saying. I'd tend to agree...maybe we should only take our D team to give the Saffers a chance.

:lol:

I think we'll see a different Bok team this year boys. Enjoy your time in the sun a little while longer.

24 November 2018 will be the real test...


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Jensrsa wrote:
Wales squad:

Forwards: Rob Evans (Scarlets), Wyn Jones (Scarlets), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Elliot Dee (Dragons), Ryan Elias (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Bradley Davies (Ospreys), Seb Davies (Cardiff Blues), Luke Charteris (Bath), Cory Hill (Dragons, co-captain), James Davies (Scarlets), Ellis Jenkins (Cardiff Blues, co-captain), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets)

Backs: Aled Davies (Scarlets), Gareth Davies (Scarlets), Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Rhys Patchell (Scarlets), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Owen Watkin (Ospreys), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Josh Adams (Worcester Warriors), Hallam Amos (Dragons), Steff Evans (Scarlets), George North (Northampton Saints), Tom Prydie (Scarlets)


So I am guesing we will take each game with equal merit.

Against the Boks we will play the following, I am guessing:
Rob Evans (Scarlets), Elliot Dee (Dragons), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Cory Hill (Dragons, co-captain), Bradley Davies (Ospreys), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets)
Gareth Davies (Scarlets), Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), George North (Northampton Saints), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Steff Evans (Scarlets), Hallam Amos (Dragons).

Replacements:
Wyn Jones (Scarlets), Ryan Elias (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Seb Davies (Cardiff Blues), Ellis Jenkins (Cardiff Blues, co-captain), Aled Davies (Scarlets), Rhys Patchell (Scarlets),Tom Prydie (Scarlets)


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Wales squad (with caps)

Forwards: Rob Evans (Scarlets) (25 Caps), Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (8 Caps), Nicky Smith (Ospreys) (18 Caps), Elliot Dee (Dragons) (7 Caps), Ryan Elias (Scarlets) (2 Caps), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (31 Caps), Samson Lee (Scarlets) (38 Caps), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues) (2 Caps), Adam Beard (Ospreys) (2 Caps), Bradley Davies (Ospreys) (62 Caps), Seb Davies (Cardiff Blues) (4 Caps), Luke Charteris (Bath) (74 Caps), Cory Hill (Dragons) (15 Caps) (Co-Captain), James Davies (Scarlets) (1 Cap), Ellis Jenkins (Cardiff Blues) (6 Caps) (Co-Captain), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester) (20 Caps), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues) (11 Caps), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) (17 Caps).

Backs: Aled Davies (Scarlets) (8 Caps), Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (32 Caps), Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues) (*uncapped), Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues) (15 Caps), Rhys Patchell (Scarlets) (8 Caps), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets) (6 Caps), Owen Watkin (Ospreys) (4 Caps), Scott Williams (Scarlets) (55 Caps), Josh Adams (Worcester Warriors) (2 Caps), Hallam Amos (Dragons) (15 Caps), Steff Evans (Scarlets) (9 Caps), George North (Ospreys) (73 Caps), Tom Prydie (Scarlets) (5 Caps).


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 6:15 pm 
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Here is the swollen list of 11 absentees: Kristian Dacey (hooker), Ken Owens (hooker), Alun Wyn Jones (lock), Toby Faletau (No 8), Justin Tipuric (flank), Sam Warburton (flank … and the Lions tour captain), Rhys Webb (scrumhalf), Dan Biggar (flyhalf), Jonathan Davies (centre), Liam Williams (wing) and Leigh Halfpenny (fullback).

Wales will also be without seven players – including some of the above -- who started their last significant, properly blue-chip Test, the 14-13 Cardiff victory over France on March 17 which confirmed them as 2018 Six Nations runners-up to runaway winners Ireland.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/bok-opener-looks-less-and-less-like-test-20180508


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:58 am 
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Josh Navidi has been ruled out of Wales’ summer touring squad with a dislocated shoulder suffered in Cardiff Blues’ Challenge Cup final victory last weekend.

Josh Adams (Worcester Warriors), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) and Luke Charteris (Bath) have also been withdrawn from the squad with uncapped Dragons duo Ashton Hewitt, Aaron Wainwright and Ospreys prop Rhodri Jones called up in their place.

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/josh-navidi-blow-for-wales/


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:53 am 
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Is this meaningless match actually going ahead?


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:35 am 
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Chilli wrote:
Is this meaningless match actually going ahead?

Any gametime for Rassie's Boks ahead of the RWC is valuable.


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Boks will win this if it goes ahead.


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:lol: what a farce. We are gonna get fecked in the arse sans lube, a La prison style.
And I really dont give 2 fecks.


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:lol: what a farce. We are gonna get fecked in the arse sans lube, a La prison style.
And I really dont give 2 fecks.

24/11/2018 we'll meet again.


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:07 pm 
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The Springboks will be without their overseas-based players for the June 2 Test against Wales in Washington.

This comes after three England-based Welsh players - Luke Charteris, Tomas Francis and Josh Adams - were all withdrawn from the squad for that match because the Test falls outside of an official International window.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/boks-to-be-without-overseas-players-for-wales-20180518


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I'm sure young American lads will fall in love with rugby after watching Jamie Roberts hurtle at full flight in to a wall of bodies for a 3 inch gain line win.

:lol:


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Chilli wrote:
Is this meaningless match actually going ahead?

Any gametime for Rassie's Boks ahead of the RWC is valuable.

it gives Rassie 18 matched before RWC.


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:19 pm 
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englishchief wrote:
I'm sure young American lads will fall in love with rugby after watching Jamie Roberts hurtle at full flight in to a wall of bodies for a 3 inch gain line win.

:lol:


I see Washington is getting a Major League Rugby team from 2020

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Washington will field an expansion team in Major League Rugby no later than 2020, backers of the new project announced, likely ending talk of a PRO14 squad in the US capital.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/PRO14/washington-to-launch-expansion-team-in-major-league-rugby-20180517


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:12 am 
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Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus says rugby fans can expect a few surprises when he names his squad for upcoming Tests against Wales and England.

Erasmus was speaking on SuperSport’s Afrikaans rugby show, SuperRugby, on Monday night where he shed more light on the squad he was preparing to pick.

The Boks will open their campaign against Wales in Washington DC on June 2, before a three-Test home series starting against England the following week.

Erasmus will name his squad on Saturday evening.

He said it will be a 40-man squad, with a group of 26 players flying to America for the Test against Wales.

“I think there will be a few surprises but I’m really going to try for a balance. I’m not going to pick conservatively,” Erasmus said.

“We’ll be training together as a group on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. And then on Thursday and Friday 26 guys will go to America, with a few guys staying behind to prepare for England. The squad will consist of about 40 players and after the first week it will be reduced to about 30.

“But I’m really excited, there will be a few guys getting their first (Test) caps. There are young guys who deserve a chance. Of course, there will be a few older guys who have experience, but the young guys will also get exposure.”

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/rassie-hints-at-a-few-surprises-in-bok-squad-20180522


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Erasmus will name a 40-man squad on Saturday evening, with 26 of those - all SA-based - to fly to the United States for the Test against Wales in Washington DC on June 2.


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Boks without overseas players for Wales Test

Cape Town - The Springboks will be without their overseas-based players for the June 2 Test against Wales in Washington DC.

This comes after three England-based Welsh players - Luke Charteris, Tomas Francis and Josh Adams - were withdrawn from the squad for that match because the Test falls outside World Rugby international Test window.

Even though the English season ends on May 26, clubs can still be fined if they allow their players play for their countries outside of an international window.

It means that Rassie Erasmus will be without the likes of Faf de Klerk and Willie le Roux for the Wales Test, with both of those players having been tipped to make a return to the national set-up.

A squad of 26 locally-based Super Rugby players will represent the Boks against Wales, while the overseas-based players will come into the squad for the three-Test series against England, starting on June 9.


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My kids' local rugby team (all Bok coaches) advised this:

The Springboks are holding an open training session at Trinity College on Thursday, May 31 from 3PM to 5 PM. They will sign autographs after the practice.


The Welsh one they put out is incorrect. I will find this out and post here soon.


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Was looking at the history of Wales playing the Boks. I knew we hadn't beaten SA until we played them in the first game at the Millenium Stadium (I was there) in 1999. What I didn't appreciate, was how little we played each other in the first half of the 20th century.

1906, 1912, 1931 and 1951.

More recently of course, we have won 3 out of last 4. Losing the only one that was actually important of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... _and_Wales


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Got the look of a cripple fight


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Got the look of a cripple fight


:((

Shouldn't even be taking place.


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Be interesting to see what the rag tag Welsh team can do.


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Here is the swollen list of 11 absentees: Kristian Dacey (hooker), Ken Owens (hooker), Alun Wyn Jones (lock), Toby Faletau (No 8), Justin Tipuric (flank), Sam Warburton (flank … and the Lions tour captain), Rhys Webb (scrumhalf), Dan Biggar (flyhalf), Jonathan Davies (centre), Liam Williams (wing) and Leigh Halfpenny (fullback).

Wales will also be without seven players – including some of the above -- who started their last significant, properly blue-chip Test, the 14-13 Cardiff victory over France on March 17 which confirmed them as 2018 Six Nations runners-up to runaway winners Ireland.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/bok-opener-looks-less-and-less-like-test-20180508


Those of us who watch Pro14 rugby, can tell you the main losses from the absentee list are Toby Faletau, Alun Wyn Jones, Ken Owens, Jonathan Davies, Rhys Webb and Liam Williams. The rest are either not making the first team any more, perma crocked and couldn’t realistically be considered, or not considered up to standard in the first place.


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YOYO wrote:
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Here is the swollen list of 11 absentees: Kristian Dacey (hooker), Ken Owens (hooker), Alun Wyn Jones (lock), Toby Faletau (No 8), Justin Tipuric (flank), Sam Warburton (flank … and the Lions tour captain), Rhys Webb (scrumhalf), Dan Biggar (flyhalf), Jonathan Davies (centre), Liam Williams (wing) and Leigh Halfpenny (fullback).

Wales will also be without seven players – including some of the above -- who started their last significant, properly blue-chip Test, the 14-13 Cardiff victory over France on March 17 which confirmed them as 2018 Six Nations runners-up to runaway winners Ireland.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/bok-opener-looks-less-and-less-like-test-20180508


Those of us who watch Pro14 rugby, can tell you the main losses from the absentee list are Toby Faletau, Alun Wyn Jones, Ken Owens, Jonathan Davies, Rhys Webb and Liam Williams. The rest are either not making the first team any more, perma crocked and couldn’t realistically be considered, or not considered up to standard in the first place.


Eh, Captain Sam is a big loss, and Dan Biggar and 1/2p would start as well. It's also, essentially, our backbone. The 'leaders' who would carry us. That's not just 9 of our best players...those 9 are literally Wales' 9 best players.


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Jeff the Bear wrote:
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Here is the swollen list of 11 absentees: Kristian Dacey (hooker), Ken Owens (hooker), Alun Wyn Jones (lock), Toby Faletau (No 8), Justin Tipuric (flank), Sam Warburton (flank … and the Lions tour captain), Rhys Webb (scrumhalf), Dan Biggar (flyhalf), Jonathan Davies (centre), Liam Williams (wing) and Leigh Halfpenny (fullback).

Wales will also be without seven players – including some of the above -- who started their last significant, properly blue-chip Test, the 14-13 Cardiff victory over France on March 17 which confirmed them as 2018 Six Nations runners-up to runaway winners Ireland.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/bok-opener-looks-less-and-less-like-test-20180508


Those of us who watch Pro14 rugby, can tell you the main losses from the absentee list are Toby Faletau, Alun Wyn Jones, Ken Owens, Jonathan Davies, Rhys Webb and Liam Williams. The rest are either not making the first team any more, perma crocked and couldn’t realistically be considered, or not considered up to standard in the first place.


Eh, Captain Sam is a big loss, and Dan Biggar and 1/2p would start as well. It's also, essentially, our backbone. The 'leaders' who would carry us. That's not just 9 of our best players...those 9 are literally Wales' 9 best players.


True enough. I was reading an article today and it said that when that talent stacked U20 team was playing in the 2009 JRWC, the three players that had pretty much pro level strength to weight ratios (based on a systematic strength training program at the regions) were HP, JD and Sam.


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Bok squad for the Wales test - leaving out the sharks and overseas players there are only 26 left. And a bit unbalanced in the cover for the various positions

Hookers:
Bongi Mbonambi
Chiliboy Ralepelle

Props:
Ox Nche
Steven Kitshoff
Trevor Nyakane
Wilco Louw
Frans Malherbe

Locks:
Marvin Orie
Jason Jenkins
RG Snyman
Franco Mostert
Pieter-Steph du Toit

Loosies:
Sikhumbuzo Notshe
Kwagga Smith
Nizaam Carr
Oupa Mohojé
Siya Kolisi

Scrummies:
Embrose Papier
Ivan van Zyl

Flyhalves:
Elton Jantjies
Handré Pollard

Centres:
Damian de Allende
Jesse Kriel

Wings:
Aphiwe Dyantyi
Travis Ismaiel

Fullback:
Warrick Gelant


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Wilco needs a rest.


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Chilli wrote:
Wilco needs a rest.


Squad is unbalanced as it is. Too many locks and loosies and no cover at fullback, wing, centre. He'll either have to pull in some Sharks players or select a few more players


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Wilco needs a rest.


Squad is unbalanced as it is. Too many locks and loosies and no cover at fullback, wing, centre. He'll either have to pull in some Sharks players or select a few more players

Although Pollard can cover centre and Jessie fullback you are 100% right.


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Starting XV vs England apparently not going to Washington


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Starting XV vs England apparently not going to Washington

Do junior is the Bok 10? :shock:


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Chilli wrote:
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Starting XV vs England apparently not going to Washington

Do junior is the Bok 10? :shock:

:lol:

The Sharks players not in the Starting XV against england will probably tour
André Esterhuizen
Robert du Preez
Chiliboy Ralepelle
Dan du Preez
Thomas du Toit
Cameron Wright
Curwin Bosch
Makazole Mapimpi


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