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Danske Bank Ulster Schools' Cup Quarter-Finals Results:

Campbell College 12-10 Ballymena Academy
Royal Belfast Academical Institution 29-3 Sullivan Upper
Wallace HS 14-22 Royal School Armagh
Methodist College Belfast 53-10 Bangor GS

Danske Bank Ulster Schools' Cup Semi-Finals Draw:

Monday 5th March 2018, 2.30pm at Kingspan Stadium: Royal Belfast Academical Institution v Royal School Armagh

Tuesday 6th March 2018, 2.30pm at Kingspan Stadium: Campbell College v Methodist College Belfast

rfurlong wrote:Last minute drop goal I hear?

yeah

Great win for RSA, especially as i think they lost their 10 to injury on Monday. Likely to be an RBAI v Methody final but perhaps the country boys can cause an upset.

It wasn’t really the last minute the drop.

I’m not too confident of the coaching this year. They sorted it out at half time but we should have been mailing them off the park all game.

irishrugbyua wrote:

rfurlong wrote:Last minute drop goal I hear?

yeah

There was over 8 mins to go when they kicked the dg. Not really even close to last minute.

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/965248552870887425

Blackrock Bullet wrote:It wasn’t really the last minute the drop.

I’m not too confident of the coaching this year. They sorted it out at half time but we should have been mailing them off the park all game.

not the most talented team either IMO

still should grind out a cup win.

Belvedere 23 Newbridge 7
The kicker missed a few sitters. Unusual for him, he also plays with the Dublin Minors. Close match Belvo pulled away in the second half.

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/965625519264821248

Can St. Marys smaller pack upset Roscrea today?

Highlights of St. Marys win over Roscrea: https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/965989213307944962

Highlights of Belvo's win over Newbridge: https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/965625519264821248

Highlights of Blackrock's in over St. Gerards: https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/965248552870887425

Clongowes vs Michaels today is being streamed online at 3pm.

Michaels won fairly handy .... as in the result never really looked in doubt

Rock v. Mary’s / Michaels v. Belvo is the semi final draw

Michaels will have done it the hard way if they manage to go all the way this year, after playing Terenure, Clongowes, Belvo and most likely Rock

Michaels less heralded secondrow Healy was very good today .... as were Scott Penny and David Ryan

Clongowes had an enormous front row who were good carriers, but couldn’t scrum for Love nor money ..... if the no pushing rule didn’t exist, the Clongowes scrum would have ended up in the Wesley clubhouse during the second half.

Plenty to work on for Michaels though .... charged down multiple times and too many knock ons. Mean looking defence though

rfurlong wrote:Michaels won fairly handy .... as in the result never really looked in doubt

Rock v. Mary’s / Michaels v. Belvo is the semi final draw

Michaels will have done it the hard way if they manage to go all the way this year, after playing Terenure, Clongowes, Belvo and most likely Rock

Michaels less heralded secondrow Healy was very good today .... as were Scott Penny and David Ryan

Clongowes had an enormous front row who were good carriers, but couldn’t scrum for Love nor money ..... if the no pushing rule didn’t exist, the Clongowes scrum would have ended up in the Wesley clubhouse during the second half.

Plenty to work on for Michaels though .... charged down multiple times and too many knock ons. Mean looking defence though

Yeah Michaels weren't great but still won handily enough..

Going to have to get over their cup problems when it comes to Belvedere and likely Blackrock if they are going to win the cup.

wesley defeated KH today to win the vinnie murray cup, 35-27.

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

Uncle Fester wrote:

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

I haven't seen him in the flesh but he looks like D'arcy when he was in school. Just on a different level altogether. I'd be surprised if he's not at the very least a Munster senior player.

Uncle Fester wrote:

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

not so much these days.. French will be in the academy next season and will likely progress quickly bar injury.

Rumham wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

I haven't seen him in the flesh but he looks like D'arcy when he was in school. Just on a different level altogether. I'd be surprised if he's not at the very least a Munster senior player.

Darcy wasnt that great in school. He was an unknown quantity and came up against Flaky teams that were ragged after seasons of high intensity competition.

I should know he was my year '98 but was in different school to him. He wasn't a great player all the way through school but was sturdy and good in contact - was a hooker at JCT level - not the makings of a silky skillful back by any means.

Gearoid Hayes was potential Irish international player at schools and played for that Clongowes team.

I stand by this statement FYI.

Flaky15 wrote:

Rumham wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

I haven't seen him in the flesh but he looks like D'arcy when he was in school. Just on a different level altogether. I'd be surprised if he's not at the very least a Munster senior player.

Darcy wasnt that great in school. He was an unknown quantity and came up against Flaky teams that were ragged after seasons of high intensity competition.

I should know he was my year '98 but was in different school to him. He wasn't a great player all the way through school but was sturdy and good in contact - was a hooker at JCT level - not the makings of a silky skillful back by any means.



Gearoid Hayes was potential Irish international player at schools and played for that Clongowes team.

He made an Irish squad 3 months after the Cup ended tbf.

Flaky15 wrote:

Rumham wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

I haven't seen him in the flesh but he looks like D'arcy when he was in school. Just on a different level altogether. I'd be surprised if he's not at the very least a Munster senior player.

Darcy wasnt that great in school. He was an unknown quantity and came up against Flaky teams that were ragged after seasons of high intensity competition.

I should know he was my year '98 but was in different school to him. He wasn't a great player all the way through school but was sturdy and good in contact - was a hooker at JCT level - not the makings of a silky skillful back by any means.

Gearoid Hayes was potential Irish international player at schools and played for that Clongowes team.

Darcy was an actual international player - just after leaving school.

And played Irish schools too didn't he? He's often mentioned as a pure elite schools player

Flaky15 wrote:

Rumham wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

I haven't seen him in the flesh but he looks like D'arcy when he was in school. Just on a different level altogether. I'd be surprised if he's not at the very least a Munster senior player.

Darcy wasnt that great in school. He was an unknown quantity and came up against Flaky teams that were ragged after seasons of high intensity competition.

I should know he was my year '98 but was in different school to him. He wasn't a great player all the way through school but was sturdy and good in contact - was a hooker at JCT level - not the makings of a silky skillful back by any means.

Gearoid Hayes was potential Irish international player at schools and played for that Clongowes team.

Yeah he was shite in school. No recognition after he left and was almost lost to the game. Definitely a late bloomer

Darcy wasn't great in school.

Banana Man wrote:

Flaky15 wrote:

Rumham wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

I haven't seen him in the flesh but he looks like D'arcy when he was in school. Just on a different level altogether. I'd be surprised if he's not at the very least a Munster senior player.

Darcy wasnt that great in school. He was an unknown quantity and came up against Flaky teams that were ragged after seasons of high intensity competition.

I should know he was my year '98 but was in different school to him. He wasn't a great player all the way through school but was sturdy and good in contact - was a hooker at JCT level - not the makings of a silky skillful back by any means.

Gearoid Hayes was potential Irish international player at schools and played for that Clongowes team.

Darcy was an actual international player - just after leaving school.

And played Irish schools too didn't he? He's often mentioned as a pure elite schools player

He was different class. I think he might have done a number on Flaky in school.

i'd say flaky took clongowes loss to michaels well.

Rumham wrote:

Flaky15 wrote:

Rumham wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Rumham wrote:Sean French looks like he's playing a different game. The very best ones in school have that different level and he could be an elite guy, future top level pro.

Hopefully but loads of these schools stars can't hack big boy rugby and pack it in early enough.

I haven't seen him in the flesh but he looks like D'arcy when he was in school. Just on a different level altogether. I'd be surprised if he's not at the very least a Munster senior player.

Darcy wasnt that great in school. He was an unknown quantity and came up against Flaky teams that were ragged after seasons of high intensity competition.

I should know he was my year '98 but was in different school to him. He wasn't a great player all the way through school but was sturdy and good in contact - was a hooker at JCT level - not the makings of a silky skillful back by any means.

Gearoid Hayes was potential Irish international player at schools and played for that Clongowes team.

Yeah he was shite in school. No recognition after he left and was almost lost to the game. Definitely a late bloomer

He was a little bulldozer in school with the shaved head- good footage here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmDfJDqA1aE

D'Arcy was an unreal schools player. Which is why he was offered a trip to SA with Ireland when he was still in school. Himself and Dillon played the guts of the rugby, rest of the team rucked (extremely well) to their hearts content.

CM11 wrote:D'Arcy was an unreal schools player. Which is why he was offered a trip to SA with Ireland when he was still in school. Himself and Dillon played the guts of the rugby, rest of the team rucked (extremely well) to their hearts content.

John Lacey couple of years ahead of D'Arcy would be a good example of a schools player that disappeared, he has the most SCT final appearance or some record like that also played senior football for Meath

Onelostbear wrote:

CM11 wrote:D'Arcy was an unreal schools player. Which is why he was offered a trip to SA with Ireland when he was still in school. Himself and Dillon played the guts of the rugby, rest of the team rucked (extremely well) to their hearts content.

John Lacey couple of years ahead of D'Arcy would be a good example of a schools player that disappeared, he has the most SCT final appearance or some record like that also played senior football for Meath

Lacey was brilliant, would have been an international, IMO. Had the size to have a long career. Had to quit due to injury, I believe.

CM11 wrote:

Onelostbear wrote:

CM11 wrote:D'Arcy was an unreal schools player. Which is why he was offered a trip to SA with Ireland when he was still in school. Himself and Dillon played the guts of the rugby, rest of the team rucked (extremely well) to their hearts content.

John Lacey couple of years ahead of D'Arcy would be a good example of a schools player that disappeared, he has the most SCT final appearance or some record like that also played senior football for Meath

Lacey was brilliant, would have been an international, IMO. Had the size to have a long career. Had to quit due to injury, I believe.

Lacey - the now ref?

He won a tonne of AIL medals for Shannon but didn't go to Clongowes - he went to school in Tipp (spit) somewhere

Are we talking about same player?

CM11 wrote:

Onelostbear wrote:

CM11 wrote:D'Arcy was an unreal schools player. Which is why he was offered a trip to SA with Ireland when he was still in school. Himself and Dillon played the guts of the rugby, rest of the team rucked (extremely well) to their hearts content.

John Lacey couple of years ahead of D'Arcy would be a good example of a schools player that disappeared, he has the most SCT final appearance or some record like that also played senior football for Meath

Lacey was brilliant, would have been an international, IMO. Had the size to have a long career. Had to quit due to injury, I believe.

ok did not realise that, a lot of the players from that era seem to have been burned up, just before pro rugby with schools not understanding how to manage them properly. happily things seemed to have changed.

BM

Nope, different person!

CM11 wrote:BM

Nope, different person!

Gotcha... carry on.

Onelostbear wrote:

CM11 wrote:

Onelostbear wrote:

CM11 wrote:D'Arcy was an unreal schools player. Which is why he was offered a trip to SA with Ireland when he was still in school. Himself and Dillon played the guts of the rugby, rest of the team rucked (extremely well) to their hearts content.

John Lacey couple of years ahead of D'Arcy would be a good example of a schools player that disappeared, he has the most SCT final appearance or some record like that also played senior football for Meath

Lacey was brilliant, would have been an international, IMO. Had the size to have a long career. Had to quit due to injury, I believe.

ok did not realise that, a lot of the players from that era seem to have been burned up, just before pro rugby with schools not understanding how to manage them properly. happily things seemed to have changed.

You would hate to have been on the same team as him though- how many finals did he lose including JCTs and when playing for Meath minors.

Luckycharmer wrote:

Onelostbear wrote:

CM11 wrote:

Onelostbear wrote:

CM11 wrote:D'Arcy was an unreal schools player. Which is why he was offered a trip to SA with Ireland when he was still in school. Himself and Dillon played the guts of the rugby, rest of the team rucked (extremely well) to their hearts content.

John Lacey couple of years ahead of D'Arcy would be a good example of a schools player that disappeared, he has the most SCT final appearance or some record like that also played senior football for Meath

Lacey was brilliant, would have been an international, IMO. Had the size to have a long career. Had to quit due to injury, I believe.

ok did not realise that, a lot of the players from that era seem to have been burned up, just before pro rugby with schools not understanding how to manage them properly. happily things seemed to have changed.

You would hate to have been on the same team as him though- how many finals did he lose including JCTs and when playing for Meath minors.

Unlucky bastard. Not down to him though, I can't speak for the minors but he was probably the main reason we made so many finals in that period.

I remember Lacy. Was probably better in college than he was in school. Fluked his way to those finals in school and fluked his way into Harvard business school after college. Big mouth. Never off Leinsterfans hyping up these exceptional Clongowes players. Big lad but a lowlife who pushes his way in everywhere. It brought him some success but eventually people like me stood up to his sh1te

CM11 wrote:

Luckycharmer wrote:

Onelostbear wrote:

CM11 wrote:D'Arcy was an unreal schools player. Which is why he was offered a trip to SA with Ireland when he was still in school. Himself and Dillon played the guts of the rugby, rest of the team rucked (extremely well) to their hearts content.

John Lacey couple of years ahead of D'Arcy would be a good example of a schools player that disappeared, he has the most SCT final appearance or some record like that also played senior football for Meath

Lacey was brilliant, would have been an international, IMO. Had the size to have a long career. Had to quit due to injury, I believe.

ok did not realise that, a lot of the players from that era seem to have been burned up, just before pro rugby with schools not understanding how to manage them properly. happily things seemed to have changed.

You would hate to have been on the same team as him though- how many finals did he lose including JCTs and when playing for Meath minors.

Unlucky bastard. Not down to him though, I can't speak for the minors but he was probably the main reason we made so many finals in that period.[/quote]

Never said it was, he was a great player I think he lost 4/5 finals.

Flaky15 wrote:I remember Lacy. Was probably better in college than he was in school. Fluked his way to those finals in school and fluked his way into Harvard business school after college. Big mouth. Never off Leinsterfans hyping up these exceptional Clongowes players. Big lad but a lowlife who pushes his way in everywhere. It brought him some success but eventually people like me stood up to his sh1te

Aren't we lucky to have people like you to set everyone straight

Flaky15 wrote:I remember Lacy. Was probably better in college than he was in school. Fluked his way to those finals in school and fluked his way into Harvard business school after college. Big mouth. Never off Leinsterfans hyping up these exceptional Clongowes players. Big lad but a lowlife who pushes his way in everywhere. It brought him some success but eventually people like me stood up to his sh1te

Just saying John Lacy was only a normal lad in school although he was a physically big lad. I wasn’t in his school so he didn’t do anything to me in school per se but had a few run ins with him in UCD when playing for College. But what was a normal lad created an aura on Leinsterfand and elsewhere by hyping up players and he himself and his buddies created what then became reality. I don’t see John as a Harvard man. My father was tho and he wasn’t a lowlife barging his way in everywhere including the Leinster and Irish team with little pikeys like Darcy. Lowlives

I take it back. This guy is even better than Sparky101.

irishrugbyua wrote:Darcy wasn't great in school.

He wasn’t. He was a hooker at JCT and they went out in the quarters then. I know SCT is the benchmark but he was an average if solid player up until SCT level. Their team wasn’t great then although they managed a fantastic record in the Cup that year. He was aggressively hyped on message boards in an age where we were in the dawn of the internet age and rugby websites and message boards. The Clongowes lowlives from 1998 aggressively hyped Darcy until he was eventually picked on the Irish team at 23 years of age. They did it in a faceless nameless manner disrespecting many other players in the process of getting their man through. There was a time where they resided on mundterfand message board even.

Darcy has a professional career and record that will be hard to beat by any one player that comes after him and he was physically very sturdy and hardy as a player but it’s the way they did it that Irks me. Defaming and debasing message board campaigns against other players until coaches and reporters were intimidated and forced into picking their man. As I said lowlives.