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Maximus look up Boden Park I’d take that before Moyville - Moyville is okay but gets some trouble from
whitechurch, or at least it used to

Duff Paddy wrote:Moyville is okay. Bit of a walk through for a slightly dodgy estate so be careful it’s not one of the houses on that route. Rathfarnham is a great buy for connectivity, schools, parks etc. Whitecliff is a good estate but might be a bit more. Don’t rule out Stepaside that place is booming and a new public park due to open next year. Also that new estate past the golden ball in Kiltiernan looks nice.

Glenamuck Road is positively heaving.
A couple of houses have been knocked down with about 20 or more houses to be built on each previous garden.



One small estate was looking for around €650k plus IIRC just down the road from the brand new state of the art halting site with a large new road passing nearby to come.

crazy shit.

The estate beside the Golden Ball.. Bishop’s Gate has units almost overhanging the Enniskerry Road, right beside the site’s perimeter wall.
People queued in cars overnight got them.
Scary stuff and st the prices there might be s bit of round two heart ache to come in a few years.

Christ lads, that were all open fields when I were a lad.

'Ouses, 'Ouses, 'Ouses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR-Z1lg2Q_4

Duff Paddy wrote:Maximus look up Boden Park I’d take that before Moyville - Moyville is okay but gets some trouble from
whitechurch, or at least it used to

Cheers. Figured there must be some issue as the houses are turning over a little slow and viewings are not as busy as other parts. Tbh I'm not really worried from a safety perspective, but if Whitechurch is giving it a bad name then gotta consider how it would affect it if we ever wanted to sell up again in the future.

Both Boden Park and Whitecliff would be great, but theres nothing coming up there, or certainly not below the €600k cap I've put on my search parameters, and tbh i wont go over €550 unless it's a showstopper - realistically I'm limiting it to €500 - €550. Even then, anything up towards 550k would need to be in pretty much turnkey condition. I'm not spending that much on a project.

Boden Park should be around 500k I would have thought

Duff Paddy wrote:Boden Park should be around 500k I would have thought

There is one in Boden, but its now sale agreed at €460. Seems like a suprisingly good price, 50-70k cheaper than the Moyville and Woodfield ones. Will keep an eye on it.

Question for our resident civil engineer Cammy -

Saw a place earlier that on arriving the EA explained to us had settled a bit on its foundations, i.e. a small part of the floor had lowered. They think it's because a pipe burst under the house years back and softened the soil, the issue with the pipe is long remedied. You could notice the hall floor wasn't level and there was a crack on the inside of one of the exterior walls, but I didn't notice it anywhere else in the house. House is c.90 years old so it's not a pyrite issue or anything I think.

Is it insanity to even consider looking at this place? Any idea what you're looking at in terms of remedial works there? If the house has settled as far as it's going to settle could you just leave it be? Obvious concerns would be down the line it would turn into a money pit, and secondly any potential resale value would be impacted. Obviously a survey would be done and in fact it's a condition of placing a bid even.

You might have trouble getting a mortgage on that. Personally I’d run a mile. You’ll be paying for this thing for a long time

Duff Paddy wrote:You might have trouble getting a mortgage on that. Personally I’d run a mile. You’ll be paying for this thing for a long time

Yeah you're probably right.

Duff Paddy wrote:You might have trouble getting a mortgage on that. Personally I’d run a mile. You’ll be paying for this thing for a long time

This will be your problem, however its also going to be everyone else's problem.

The agent may well be correct and the problem is old and fixed, but I wouldn't trust an agent ever. An experienced engineer should be able to advise. The banks will be your problem, and the property will probably be bought by someone in the construction business for cash, who will fix the problem and sell on.

Are there any issues evident in the surrounding properties/area? Cracks in buildings, leaning poles and the like?

danthefan wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:You might have trouble getting a mortgage on that. Personally I’d run a mile. You’ll be paying for this thing for a long time

Yeah you're probably right.

As Cammy alluded to, the fact that the EA is being up front about this would make me worry about what they might be hiding. Run a mile.

danthefan wrote:Question for our resident civil engineer Cammy -

Saw a place earlier that on arriving the EA explained to us had settled a bit on its foundations, i.e. a small part of the floor had lowered. They think it's because a pipe burst under the house years back and softened the soil, the issue with the pipe is long remedied. You could notice the hall floor wasn't level and there was a crack on the inside of one of the exterior walls, but I didn't notice it anywhere else in the house. House is c.90 years old so it's not a pyrite issue or anything I think.

Is it insanity to even consider looking at this place? Any idea what you're looking at in terms of remedial works there? If the house has settled as far as it's going to settle could you just leave it be? Obvious concerns would be down the line it would turn into a money pit, and secondly any potential resale value would be impacted. Obviously a survey would be done and in fact it's a condition of placing a bid even.

The phrase "they think" should be enough to warn you off, assuming they aren't engineers.

Where in Dublin is it? I once viewed a house with a waterlogged back garden in August, "wet summer" the EA said. I looked over the back wall to see a river flowing (the Poddle in Kimmage). The EA was either too stupid to know there was a river there, or just lying, with EA's you can never be sure. Anyhow, obviously some time ago plenty of houses were built on what were the original flood plains of the various hidden and semi-hidden rivers in Dublin (iirc, though I stand to be corrected, the filipino nurse who drowned in the bad floods in Harold's Cross in 2011 drowned because the Poddle, which ran under her flat, flooded suddenly bringing the water above the level of her basement flat).

proof we've gone full retard....


https://www.myhome.ie/residential/broch ... in/4219279

ticketlessinseattle wrote:proof we've gone full retard....


https://www.myhome.ie/residential/broch ... in/4219279

How does that even make sense given another 200-300k would buy you a 4 bedroom semi D in other parts of Blackrock

goose81 wrote:

ticketlessinseattle wrote:proof we've gone full retard....


https://www.myhome.ie/residential/broch ... in/4219279

How does that even make sense given another 200-300k would buy you a 4 bedroom semi D in other parts of Blackrock

What's the going rate per sq. m. for period homes in Blackrock ?

At 70 sq m this is going at about €7,800 per sq. m, which on the face of it, appears steep.

camroc1 wrote:

goose81 wrote:

ticketlessinseattle wrote:proof we've gone full retard....


https://www.myhome.ie/residential/broch ... in/4219279

How does that even make sense given another 200-300k would buy you a 4 bedroom semi D in other parts of Blackrock

What's the going rate per sq. m. for period homes in Blackrock ?

At 70 sq m this is going at about €7,800 per sq. m, which on the face of it, appears steep.

It’s as steep as it’s spiral staircase.
It’s not really a nice area in Blackrock either.

Macsimus wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Macsimus wrote:Anyone know much about Moyville or Woodfield in Rathfarnham? (Though Woodfield looks more like Knocklyon to me than Rathfarnham despite the address). Seriously thinking about bidding on one or both of them.

They're both a bit farther out from the village than I would like, but prices get pretty crazy for anything nearer the village. Proximity to the M50 is handy, and I'm pretty much committed to getting a mototrbike for my commute to town so I'm not that worried abou that part of it.

Also, an engineer I know told us not to buy anything built between 1993 and 2014 due to the lack of building regs in that period. Is he being overly cautious or is this a serious concern? Will obviously be getting a structural survey done on anything we decide to push ahead on.

Overly cautious imo, for what are two story houses. Biggest problem would have been use of pyrite aggregates in concrete foundations and floors. But that firstly would have shown itself by now, and secondly is generally restricted to a couple of quarries that served Nth Co Dublin.

A decent engineers walk through survey should pick up any problems, and if he advises further investigation just walk away.

Thanks Cami. Seemed a bit over dramatic and would be a real fly in the ointment as a lot of the houses we've liked were from this period. We probably will go for a full survey anyway though as a lot of the houses we are looking at would already have been significantly extended. Realy want something with an open plan design in the living area and a decent bit of space, with a high quality finish. From my initial enquiries doing a serious extension / renovation job is going to cost a bomb in the current building market. Seems better value to buy something thats already done up by the previous owners.

Dan - I feel ya. A grind is exactly what it is and we've only been seriously at it for 6 weeks.

Moyville never heard anything bad about it it would be about 25/30 years old maybe a bit older, Damien duff grew there. Maybe the back of it is near Whitechurch, the front isn't. Woodfield would def be more recent estate and has good schools nearby and closer to M50.
Prospect is a very nice estate up around there, bit far from local shop and has a good residents committee, Woodstown is a lovely estate very close to M50, nice houses, active residents committee in area for Colmcilles which is an excellent school, houses get snapped up there quickly.
Also there is a Knocklyon network on facebook which is a good spot to get info on all the estates.

JoeyFantastic wrote:

danthefan wrote:Question for our resident civil engineer Cammy -

Saw a place earlier that on arriving the EA explained to us had settled a bit on its foundations, i.e. a small part of the floor had lowered. They think it's because a pipe burst under the house years back and softened the soil, the issue with the pipe is long remedied. You could notice the hall floor wasn't level and there was a crack on the inside of one of the exterior walls, but I didn't notice it anywhere else in the house. House is c.90 years old so it's not a pyrite issue or anything I think.

Is it insanity to even consider looking at this place? Any idea what you're looking at in terms of remedial works there? If the house has settled as far as it's going to settle could you just leave it be? Obvious concerns would be down the line it would turn into a money pit, and secondly any potential resale value would be impacted. Obviously a survey would be done and in fact it's a condition of placing a bid even.

The phrase "they think" should be enough to warn you off, assuming they aren't engineers.

Where in Dublin is it? I once viewed a house with a waterlogged back garden in August, "wet summer" the EA said. I looked over the back wall to see a river flowing (the Poddle in Kimmage). The EA was either too stupid to know there was a river there, or just lying, with EA's you can never be sure. Anyhow, obviously some time ago plenty of houses were built on what were the original flood plains of the various hidden and semi-hidden rivers in Dublin (iirc, though I stand to be corrected, the filipino nurse who drowned in the bad floods in Harold's Cross in 2011 drowned because the Poddle, which ran under her flat, flooded suddenly bringing the water above the level of her basement flat).

It's in Drumcondra, I don't think the area has a history of flooding. Botanic Avenue is the nearest spot that I know has flooded in the recent past.

Anyway I'm not going to pursue it.

goose81 wrote:

ticketlessinseattle wrote:proof we've gone full retard....


https://www.myhome.ie/residential/broch ... in/4219279

How does that even make sense given another 200-300k would buy you a 4 bedroom semi D in other parts of Blackrock

you'd be doing well to get a 120 sqm 4 bed semi D in blackrock for €750k - you might get one advertised as Blackrock but it'd be Deansgrange/KillO the grange

Moyville never heard anything bad about it it would be about 25/30 years old maybe a bit older, Damien duff grew there. Maybe the back of it is near Whitechurch, the front isn't. Woodfield would def be more recent estate and has good schools nearby and closer to M50.
Prospect is a very nice estate up around there, bit far from local shop and has a good residents committee, Woodstown is a lovely estate very close to M50, nice houses, active residents committee in area for Colmcilles which is an excellent school, houses get snapped up there quickly.
Also there is a Knocklyon network on facebook which is a good spot to get info on all the estates.

I know Moyville well. A lot of my friends grew up there. Whitechurch was a menace in the 90's but not as bad now. I wouldn't say it has gentrified by any stretch of the imagination but it's not the worst. You do have a massive halting site on the other side though close to Boden Park

ticketlessinseattle wrote:

goose81 wrote:

ticketlessinseattle wrote:proof we've gone full retard....


https://www.myhome.ie/residential/broch ... in/4219279

How does that even make sense given another 200-300k would buy you a 4 bedroom semi D in other parts of Blackrock

you'd be doing well to get a 120 sqm 4 bed semi D in blackrock for €750k - you might get one advertised as Blackrock but it'd be Deansgrange/KillO the grange

You'd get one in stradbrook or Newtown Park avenue or Avondale I would imagine. I don't know about size but 3-4 bed

JoeyFantastic wrote: The phrase "they think" should be enough to warn you off, assuming they aren't engineers.

Where in Dublin is it? I once viewed a house with a waterlogged back garden in August, "wet summer" the EA said. I looked over the back wall to see a river flowing (the Poddle in Kimmage). The EA was either too stupid to know there was a river there, or just lying, with EA's you can never be sure. Anyhow, obviously some time ago plenty of houses were built on what were the original flood plains of the various hidden and semi-hidden rivers in Dublin (iirc, though I stand to be corrected, the filipino nurse who drowned in the bad floods in Harold's Cross in 2011 drowned because the Poddle, which ran under her flat, flooded suddenly bringing the water above the level of her basement flat).

Some serious bedwetting there.

Boxcar Ira wrote:

Moyville never heard anything bad about it it would be about 25/30 years old maybe a bit older, Damien duff grew there. Maybe the back of it is near Whitechurch, the front isn't. Woodfield would def be more recent estate and has good schools nearby and closer to M50.
Prospect is a very nice estate up around there, bit far from local shop and has a good residents committee, Woodstown is a lovely estate very close to M50, nice houses, active residents committee in area for Colmcilles which is an excellent school, houses get snapped up there quickly.
Also there is a Knocklyon network on facebook which is a good spot to get info on all the estates.

I know Moyville well. A lot of my friends grew up there. Whitechurch was a menace in the 90's but not as bad now. I wouldn't say it has gentrified by any stretch of the imagination but it's not the worst. You do have a massive halting site on the other side though close to Boden Park

Thanks for that lads, good to get as much info as possible when you don't really know an area. We're a bit all over the place now though, spent the last week looking at houses around Glasnevin. Being half the distance to town when compared with that part of Rathfarnham along with a lot of other positives including the Metro North are appealing and you can bet some fine houses there for our budget. We'll keep plugging away, it'll all fall into place eventually.

danthefan wrote:

JoeyFantastic wrote:

danthefan wrote:Question for our resident civil engineer Cammy -

Saw a place earlier that on arriving the EA explained to us had settled a bit on its foundations, i.e. a small part of the floor had lowered. They think it's because a pipe burst under the house years back and softened the soil, the issue with the pipe is long remedied. You could notice the hall floor wasn't level and there was a crack on the inside of one of the exterior walls, but I didn't notice it anywhere else in the house. House is c.90 years old so it's not a pyrite issue or anything I think.

Is it insanity to even consider looking at this place? Any idea what you're looking at in terms of remedial works there? If the house has settled as far as it's going to settle could you just leave it be? Obvious concerns would be down the line it would turn into a money pit, and secondly any potential resale value would be impacted. Obviously a survey would be done and in fact it's a condition of placing a bid even.

The phrase "they think" should be enough to warn you off, assuming they aren't engineers.

Where in Dublin is it? I once viewed a house with a waterlogged back garden in August, "wet summer" the EA said. I looked over the back wall to see a river flowing (the Poddle in Kimmage). The EA was either too stupid to know there was a river there, or just lying, with EA's you can never be sure. Anyhow, obviously some time ago plenty of houses were built on what were the original flood plains of the various hidden and semi-hidden rivers in Dublin (iirc, though I stand to be corrected, the filipino nurse who drowned in the bad floods in Harold's Cross in 2011 drowned because the Poddle, which ran under her flat, flooded suddenly bringing the water above the level of her basement flat).

It's in Drumcondra, I don't think the area has a history of flooding. Botanic Avenue is the nearest spot that I know has flooded in the recent past.

Anyway I'm not going to pursue it.

I was renting a house in Cian Park in Drumcondra around 2003. The Tolka ran down behind the back garden and it flooded some large areas around there back then. Pretty sure a number of houses in on the left of the Millmount house got flooded back then. They did a good bit of flood defense work after that though iirc. If you're in the market for a terraced around there then around that Griffith Park / Home Farm Rd area (just off Griffith Ave) would be a good buy imo.

Cian Park is just on the other side of the main road to Botanic Ave, so not surprised there. This place wasn't on the Tolka. We bid on a place on Millmount Ave a month or two back but didn't get it. We're nearly priced out of Drumcondra at this stage tbh.

Cian Park didn't actually get hit, but it was damn close. Yeah, some of the ones we've enquired after in Drumcondra have been going wel over asking. The area seems pretty hot atm.

Macsimus wrote:

danthefan wrote:

JoeyFantastic wrote:

danthefan wrote:Question for our resident civil engineer Cammy -

Saw a place earlier that on arriving the EA explained to us had settled a bit on its foundations, i.e. a small part of the floor had lowered. They think it's because a pipe burst under the house years back and softened the soil, the issue with the pipe is long remedied. You could notice the hall floor wasn't level and there was a crack on the inside of one of the exterior walls, but I didn't notice it anywhere else in the house. House is c.90 years old so it's not a pyrite issue or anything I think.

Is it insanity to even consider looking at this place? Any idea what you're looking at in terms of remedial works there? If the house has settled as far as it's going to settle could you just leave it be? Obvious concerns would be down the line it would turn into a money pit, and secondly any potential resale value would be impacted. Obviously a survey would be done and in fact it's a condition of placing a bid even.

The phrase "they think" should be enough to warn you off, assuming they aren't engineers.

Where in Dublin is it? I once viewed a house with a waterlogged back garden in August, "wet summer" the EA said. I looked over the back wall to see a river flowing (the Poddle in Kimmage). The EA was either too stupid to know there was a river there, or just lying, with EA's you can never be sure. Anyhow, obviously some time ago plenty of houses were built on what were the original flood plains of the various hidden and semi-hidden rivers in Dublin (iirc, though I stand to be corrected, the filipino nurse who drowned in the bad floods in Harold's Cross in 2011 drowned because the Poddle, which ran under her flat, flooded suddenly bringing the water above the level of her basement flat).

It's in Drumcondra, I don't think the area has a history of flooding. Botanic Avenue is the nearest spot that I know has flooded in the recent past.

Anyway I'm not going to pursue it.

I was renting a house in Cian Park in Drumcondra around 2003. The Tolka ran down behind the back garden and it flooded some large areas around there back then. Pretty sure a number of houses in on the left of the Millmount house got flooded back then. They did a good bit of flood defense work after that though iirc. If you're in the market for a terraced around there then around that Griffith Park / Home Farm Rd area (just off Griffith Ave) would be a good buy imo.

The problem there IIRc was that they'd built on the flood plains further out around blanch, meant the water flowed in too quickly.

The problem with the Poddle was that the gate into the Liffey locked.

Ulster bank taking an age with the draw down. They haven't even got in touch with my solicitor yet and it's been two months now since I applied for Mortgage.

Just got a call from my solicitor and the seller is going to put the apartment back on the market if there are no contracts signed by Friday of next week.

Not looking good.

That's normal enough with the bank and it could be just bluffing from the vendor. Could be genuine too though.

iarmhiman wrote:Ulster bank taking an age with the draw down. They haven't even got in touch with my solicitor yet and it's been two months now since I applied for Mortgage.

Just got a call from my solicitor and the seller is going to put the apartment back on the market if there are no contracts signed by Friday of next week.

Not looking good.

Their customer service is shocking. Tell them your gonna bleed your heart out to Joe Duffy if you lose the property.

How is the house hunting for the various lads going?

Just gave up and spent half my deposit saved on a new motorbike

JoeyFantastic wrote: The phrase "they think" should be enough to warn you off, assuming they aren't engineers.

Where in Dublin is it? I once viewed a house with a waterlogged back garden in August, "wet summer" the EA said. I looked over the back wall to see a river flowing (the Poddle in Kimmage). The EA was either too stupid to know there was a river there, or just lying, with EA's you can never be sure. Anyhow, obviously some time ago plenty of houses were built on what were the original flood plains of the various hidden and semi-hidden rivers in Dublin (iirc, though I stand to be corrected, the filipino nurse who drowned in the bad floods in Harold's Cross in 2011 drowned because the Poddle, which ran under her flat, flooded suddenly bringing the water above the level of her basement flat).

The bars on the exterior window sill of that property in Harold's Cross was one serious obstacle to vacating that property quickly.

The source of the Poddle River from just above Tymon Park running down through the Spawell, Whitehall Road, Lower Kimmage Road, Harold's Cross, Clanbrassil Street, and exits in to the Liffey close to the Clarence Hotel.
On that fateful day in Harold's Cross you had water levels rising in the canal along with a huge torrent of water flowing down the Poddle
and conflating at Harold's Cross. The water from the Poddle that day had nowhere else to flow to and it backed up rapidly.
Greenmount, where that property which was flooded is located, is well known for having excess water problems.

Got the letter of loan yesterday for the amount agreed and solicitor has it as well.

Currently organising Mortgage protection insurance and home insurance and a new current bank account where I will have to pay mortgage repayments from.

Process speeding up now.

iarmhiman wrote:Got the letter of loan yesterday for the amount agreed and solicitor has it as well.

Currently organising Mortgage protection insurance and home insurance and a new current bank account where I will have to pay mortgage repayments from.

Process speeding up now.

Congrats - welcome to the world of eternal debt

Banana Man wrote:How is the house hunting for the various lads going?

It's a pain in the nads. We're still in the process of re-focusing around Glasnevin and Drumcondra (with an eye on D7 and Clontarf / Raheny). But after three or four weeks we've seen everything in budget, and now we're waiting on the slow drip feeding new stock being introduced. Everything that ticks all the boxes that we want to achieve ends up having a bidding frenzy on it.

iarmhiman wrote:Got the letter of loan yesterday for the amount agreed and solicitor has it as well.

Currently organising Mortgage protection insurance and home insurance and a new current bank account where I will have to pay mortgage repayments from.

Process speeding up now.

Deadly! Congrats.

iarmhiman wrote:Got the letter of loan yesterday for the amount agreed and solicitor has it as well.

Currently organising Mortgage protection insurance and home insurance and a new current bank account where I will have to pay mortgage repayments from.

Process speeding up now.

Nice one Iarm


I was going to recommend this place for folks here interested in buying http://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sa ... n-1554959/. I thought it represents good value, given it's location and it's price, but it sold a couple of weeks ago.

Banana Man wrote:How is the house hunting for the various lads going?

the good times are back baby !!! property prices through roof, teachers on strike, what can go wrong !? was looking at a property development that started phase 2 recently - houses are €100k up from exact same ones as phase I as 8 months ago ffs

ticketlessinseattle wrote:

Banana Man wrote:How is the house hunting for the various lads going?

the good times are back baby !!! property prices through roof, teachers on strike, what can go wrong !? was looking at a property development that started phase 2 recently - houses are €100k up from exact same ones as phase I as 8 months ago ffs

True.

Hang on long enough and you see this sort of stuff.

Stanley Holdings flew in English pop star Louise Redknapp and former Liverpool footballer Jamie Redknapp in an effort to convince homebuyers that they can enjoy a glamorous lifestyle near Donaghmede on Dublin's northside.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/l ... 67167.html

Eaten bread and all that.