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Saturnine wrote:Great skewering of Hopkins in the Guardian by Marina Hyde:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... adventures

Standing ovation for the "Bluejean Terreblanche" line...

It's a shit article, from a shit newspaper. That hardly reports this story, and when they do makes sure to always mention apartheid and Terreblanche.

What really happened, is they got shown up by some Z list celeb columnist. So the Guardian can say what it likes, she awful as she is, went there and interviewed people. Whereas they just called white people racist.

backrow wrote:
eh ? are you trying to say no white man would ever lower themselves to drive a taxi ?

Do/did you see any white mini-bus taxi drives in Natal ?

ox wagon wrote:

Saturnine wrote:Great skewering of Hopkins in the Guardian by Marina Hyde:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... adventures

Standing ovation for the "Bluejean Terreblanche" line...

It's a shit article, from a shit newspaper. That hardly reports this story, and when they do makes sure to always mention apartheid and Terreblanche.

What really happened, is they got shown up by some Z list celeb columnist. So the Guardian can say what it likes, she awful as she is, went there and interviewed people. Whereas they just called white people racist.

Sells their media to their usual brainless audience.

They are not interested in the truth or an solution - for them this (farm killings, attacks) is a form of entertainment.

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

ox wagon wrote:

Saturnine wrote:Great skewering of Hopkins in the Guardian by Marina Hyde:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... adventures

Standing ovation for the "Bluejean Terreblanche" line...

It's a shit article, from a shit newspaper. That hardly reports this story, and when they do makes sure to always mention apartheid and Terreblanche.

What really happened, is they got shown up by some Z list celeb columnist. So the Guardian can say what it likes, she awful as she is, went there and interviewed people. Whereas they just called white people racist.

Sells their media to their usual brainless audience.

They are not interested in the truth or an solution - for them this (farm killings, attacks) is a form of entertainment.

It's the same as any other news story. Interview people and research, then write it up with opinion and analysis based on that. Some will do it better than others.

But the Guardian doesn't do that on this story. They're in the game of stigmatising and vilifying people, and interviewing no one, not the victims or perpetrators.

Seems as if they copy PR Rugby Forum...

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

backrow wrote:
eh ? are you trying to say no white man would ever lower themselves to drive a taxi ?

Do/did you see any white mini-bus taxi drives in Natal ?

get with it pops, its Kwa-Zulu-Natal these days

and for the taxis I take, yes

backrow wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

backrow wrote:
eh ? are you trying to say no white man would ever lower themselves to drive a taxi ?

Do/did you see any white mini-bus taxi drives in Natal ?

get with it pops, its Kwa-Zulu-Natal these days

and for the taxis I take, yes

You will never see a white minibus taxi driver in Gauteng/Limpopo. The odd Uber/metered taxi one.

Edit : Taxi Association (black drivers) would never allow it. They say taxis is a black thing ... (anecdotal)

ox wagon wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

ox wagon wrote:

Saturnine wrote:Great skewering of Hopkins in the Guardian by Marina Hyde:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... adventures

Standing ovation for the "Bluejean Terreblanche" line...

It's a shit article, from a shit newspaper. That hardly reports this story, and when they do makes sure to always mention apartheid and Terreblanche.

What really happened, is they got shown up by some Z list celeb columnist. So the Guardian can say what it likes, she awful as she is, went there and interviewed people. Whereas they just called white people racist.

Sells their media to their usual brainless audience.

They are not interested in the truth or an solution - for them this (farm killings, attacks) is a form of entertainment.

It's the same as any other news story. Interview people and research, then write it up with opinion and analysis based on that. Some will do it better than others.

But the Guardian doesn't do that on this story. They're in the game of stigmatising and vilifying people, and interviewing no one, not the victims or perpetrators.

In your rush to take offence, it seems you haven't seen my follow up post. I've highlighted it below:

It's the 'Lost in Showbiz' column. Hyde is well known for her amusing and irreverent take on all the sh*t that is happening in the world.

Ths complex issues that SA faces could fill an encyclopedia daily, I'm sure. However, this column was simply a takedown of serial shit-stirrer and controversialist Katie Hopkins - who if you think would take a sober and exhaustive look at this situation, you're deluded.

The ONLY reason she's in SA is because she's been fired from all her other jobs and is having to become increasingly shrill to earn a living.

Having her involved in not a good thing.

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

backrow wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

backrow wrote:
eh ? are you trying to say no white man would ever lower themselves to drive a taxi ?

Do/did you see any white mini-bus taxi drives in Natal ?

get with it pops, its Kwa-Zulu-Natal these days

and for the taxis I take, yes

You will never see a white minibus taxi driver in Gauteng/Limpopo. The odd Uber/metered taxi one.

Edit : Taxi Association (black drivers) would never allow it. They say taxis is a black thing ... (anecdotal)

Wait, white minibus taxi's in Gauteng/Limpopo drive themselves?

Saturnine wrote:In your rush to take offence, it seems you haven't seen my follow up post. I've highlighted it below:

It's the 'Lost in Showbiz' column. Hyde is well known for her amusing and irreverent take on all the sh*t that is happening in the world.

Ths complex issues that SA faces could fill an encyclopedia daily, I'm sure. However, this column was simply a takedown of serial shit-stirrer and controversialist Katie Hopkins - who if you think would take a sober and exhaustive look at this situation, you're deluded.

The ONLY reason she's in SA is because she's been fired from all her other jobs and is having to become increasingly shrill to earn a living.

Having her involved in not a good thing.

This is the total amount of stories from the Guardian on farm murders:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... anche-race
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/ ... ca-robbery
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... uth-africa
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/ ... achine-gun
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/ ... orycarroll
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... upremacist

They almost all find a way to mention Terreblanche, or if not apartheid. I'm not offended I'm pointing out a fact. It would be like a South African newspaper reporting UK Muslim rape gangs, and always finding a way to mention colonialism and Nick Griffin.

Why should this story not be covered because it's supposedly too complicated? If some tabloid journalist/columnist wants to go bull in a china shop and interview some people along the way. Crack on I say. It's not some special issue that can't be mentioned other than in encyclopedias, no story is.

Anyone have an idea hat was the UK newspaper coverage of the Mau Mau, in that era ?

A short excerpt of Katie's column
https://hopkinsworld.com/sources-corrup ... m-attacks/

Multiple sources including politicians, serving officers, and informants inside international research centers and across agricultural unions tell me the South African police force is actively arming and facilitating farm attacks. That the perpetrators of murder, torture, and assault are protected from arrest or prosecution via their political affiliations, and that police officers are paid to turn a blind eye.

In England, I tell my children: if you are ever in trouble you can always trust a policeman. Here in South Africa, I’d tell them to run the other way.

The white farmer will be hunted to extinction. And the only difference between him and the white rhino is that the world doesn’t care.

All makes sense, so far.

Wilson's Toffee wrote:A short excerpt of Katie's column
https://hopkinsworld.com/sources-corrup ... m-attacks/

Multiple sources including politicians, serving officers, and informants inside international research centers and across agricultural unions tell me the South African police force is actively arming and facilitating farm attacks. That the perpetrators of murder, torture, and assault are protected from arrest or prosecution via their political affiliations, and that police officers are paid to turn a blind eye.

In England, I tell my children: if you are ever in trouble you can always trust a policeman. Here in South Africa, I’d tell them to run the other way.

The white farmer will be hunted to extinction. And the only difference between him and the white rhino is that the world doesn’t care.

All makes sense, so far.

Bullshit.

But no surprise she fills your wank bank, though.

She is an odious twat.

I have no knowledge of South Africa so won't comment on that, but I don't see Katie Hopkins as a journalist as such.

She regularly calls London a dangerous hell hole that she would never visit and tells Americans that they would never want their country to be as dangerous as the UK, so full of extremism that goes unchallenged because there's a left wing establishment conspiracy to protect Muslims.

She's also outspoken against vaccination.

You have to be careful about anyone who reports with a single agenda. Sadly more of this is being regarded as journalism or worthy of discussion these days.

SamShark wrote:I have no knowledge of South Africa so won't comment on that, but I don't see Katie Hopkins as a journalist as such.

She regularly calls London a dangerous hell hole that she would never visit and tells Americans that they would never want their country to be as dangerous as the UK, so full of extremism that goes unchallenged because there's a left wing establishment conspiracy to protect Muslims.

She's also outspoken against vaccination.

You have to be careful about anyone who reports with a single agenda. Sadly more of this is being regarded as journalism or worthy of discussion these days.

She plays directly to the racist white minority.

The problem is that it's an extremely dangerous message that she's pushing. It's all very well to peddle this disingenuous pish in the UK where the whites are a sizable majority; here in South Africa we have around 3 million whites in a population of about 60 million.

SamShark wrote:I have no knowledge of South Africa so won't comment on that, but I don't see Katie Hopkins as a journalist as such.

She regularly calls London a dangerous hell hole that she would never visit and tells Americans that they would never want their country to be as dangerous as the UK, so full of extremism that goes unchallenged because there's a left wing establishment conspiracy to protect Muslims.

She's also outspoken against vaccination.

You have to be careful about anyone who reports with a single agenda. Sadly more of this is being regarded as journalism or worthy of discussion these days.

tbf London isn't exactly super safe, 8 knife murders in Jan was it ?
its probably quite low murders per capita, but still a bit dodgy in parts.

still think America is just ahead though on murders

backrow wrote:

SamShark wrote:I have no knowledge of South Africa so won't comment on that, but I don't see Katie Hopkins as a journalist as such.

She regularly calls London a dangerous hell hole that she would never visit and tells Americans that they would never want their country to be as dangerous as the UK, so full of extremism that goes unchallenged because there's a left wing establishment conspiracy to protect Muslims.

She's also outspoken against vaccination.

You have to be careful about anyone who reports with a single agenda. Sadly more of this is being regarded as journalism or worthy of discussion these days.

tbf London isn't exactly super safe, 8 knife murders in Jan was it ?
its probably quite low murders per capita, but still a bit dodgy in parts.

still think America is just ahead though on murders

Don't be silly, London is very safe.

Rinkals wrote:

SamShark wrote:I have no knowledge of South Africa so won't comment on that, but I don't see Katie Hopkins as a journalist as such.

She regularly calls London a dangerous hell hole that she would never visit and tells Americans that they would never want their country to be as dangerous as the UK, so full of extremism that goes unchallenged because there's a left wing establishment conspiracy to protect Muslims.

She's also outspoken against vaccination.

You have to be careful about anyone who reports with a single agenda. Sadly more of this is being regarded as journalism or worthy of discussion these days.

She plays directly to the racist white minority.

The problem is that it's an extremely dangerous message that she's pushing. It's all very well to peddle this disingenuous pish in the UK where the whites are a sizable majority; here in South Africa we have around 3 million whites in a population of about 60 million.

It's just a news story like any other.

The amusing thing is, all it took for her to upstage large media businesses, was to actually interview people and then put some half arsed kak analysis on top of that. That ends up immediately better than what the non-reporting western media outlets have done, which is the occasional dribbling about Terreblanche a irrelevant and dead person. On a qualitative basis. Leaving her as a sort of authority source.

You know there is the option of massive global media giants reporting better than some Z list celeb? Calling everyone racist and Terreblanche isn't reporting.

Rinkals wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:A short excerpt of Katie's column
https://hopkinsworld.com/sources-corrup ... m-attacks/

Multiple sources including politicians, serving officers, and informants inside international research centers and across agricultural unions tell me the South African police force is actively arming and facilitating farm attacks. That the perpetrators of murder, torture, and assault are protected from arrest or prosecution via their political affiliations, and that police officers are paid to turn a blind eye.

In England, I tell my children: if you are ever in trouble you can always trust a policeman. Here in South Africa, I’d tell them to run the other way.

The white farmer will be hunted to extinction. And the only difference between him and the white rhino is that the world doesn’t care.

All makes sense, so far.

Bullshit.

Don't take this post as disagreeing with you. Or agreeing for that matter.

Think of me as a debate facilitator.....

So my question is:

How come you're so sure that it is indeed bullshit?

*Don't read this question as being an indication of my own views on this subject.

Trogs - it is Rinkals. Do not wait up for an answer ...

SamShark wrote:She's also outspoken against vaccination.

The mind boggles.

sorCrer wrote:

SamShark wrote:She's also outspoken against vaccination.

The mind boggles.

Eh, she says whatever gives her publicity. If the Guardian said they'd give her a £1000,000 contract tomorrow she'd come out saying 57 genders isn't enough.

I actually quite like Katie Hopkins.

ZappaMan wrote:I actually quite like Katie Hopkins.

You hopeless romantics are all the same

troglodiet wrote:

Rinkals wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:A short excerpt of Katie's column
https://hopkinsworld.com/sources-corrup ... m-attacks/

Multiple sources including politicians, serving officers, and informants inside international research centers and across agricultural unions tell me the South African police force is actively arming and facilitating farm attacks. That the perpetrators of murder, torture, and assault are protected from arrest or prosecution via their political affiliations, and that police officers are paid to turn a blind eye.

In England, I tell my children: if you are ever in trouble you can always trust a policeman. Here in South Africa, I’d tell them to run the other way.

The white farmer will be hunted to extinction. And the only difference between him and the white rhino is that the world doesn’t care.

All makes sense, so far.

Bullshit.

Don't take this post as disagreeing with you. Or agreeing for that matter.

Think of me as a debate facilitator.....

So my question is:

How come you're so sure that it is indeed bullshit?

*Don't read this question as being an indication of my own views on this subject.

"Actively arming and facilitating farm attacks"?

Seriously?

It is not impossible (but quite unlikely) that the farm attackers have some sympathy from individual policemen, but Hopkins is driving a narrative that suggest that it is Government policy to ethnically cleanse rural South Africa.

Bullshit is an entirely accurate description.

If there is indeed sympathy within the SAPS for farm attackers, I don't think it's unreasonable to conclude that the politicization of the attacks by Hopkins, Hofmeyer and others has contributed substantially to this.

Wilson's Toffee wrote:


Trogs - it is Rinkals. Do not wait up for an answer ...

Yeah. Right.

Rinkals wrote:It is not impossible (but quite unlikely) that the farm attackers have some sympathy from individual policemen

"Unlikely"?

An audit found that 1448 police from major general (third highest rank) down, had been convicted of serious crimes up to 2010, many multiple times (3204 convictions), the crimes that fell under the audit were limited to; murder, attempted murder, rape, assault, corruption, theft, robbery, house-breaking, drug trafficking, domestic violence and aiding escapees. SAPS was supposed to have removed them, however the scope of their audit was narrow and only accounted for serious crimes. In 2013 for example there were 9000 criminal cases pending against SAPS personnel. In 2013, 1050 police were charged with serious crimes after the audit period.

About 5% of SAPS is highly corrupt criminals, that's just using the known numbers on those who get caught.

https://africacheck.org/reports/south-a ... been-told/

... you see a real journalist could research all this and apply the numbers and facts to the story. But they just don't bother and instead call everyone Terreblanche, every farmer is Terreblanche, everyone that reports the story is Terreblanche also.

This is probably why Rinkhals loves and trusts the MSM so much. They report only the things he wants to hear. Then again, we all suffer from some sort of confirmation bias, I guess.

Rinkals wrote:

SamShark wrote:I have no knowledge of South Africa so won't comment on that, but I don't see Katie Hopkins as a journalist as such.

She regularly calls London a dangerous hell hole that she would never visit and tells Americans that they would never want their country to be as dangerous as the UK, so full of extremism that goes unchallenged because there's a left wing establishment conspiracy to protect Muslims.

She's also outspoken against vaccination.

You have to be careful about anyone who reports with a single agenda. Sadly more of this is being regarded as journalism or worthy of discussion these days.

She plays directly to the racist white minority.

The problem is that it's an extremely dangerous message that she's pushing. It's all very well to peddle this disingenuous pish in the UK where the whites are a sizable majority; here in South Africa we have around 3 million whites in a population of about 60 million.

Sweet Jesus is the white population really that low now? 3 freaken million?

ox wagon wrote:

Rinkals wrote:It is not impossible (but quite unlikely) that the farm attackers have some sympathy from individual policemen

"Unlikely"?

An audit found that 1448 police from major general (third highest rank) down, had been convicted of serious crimes up to 2010, many multiple times (3204 convictions), the crimes that fell under the audit were limited to; murder, attempted murder, rape, assault, corruption, theft, robbery, house-breaking, drug trafficking, domestic violence and aiding escapees. SAPS was supposed to have removed them, however the scope of their audit was narrow and only accounted for serious crimes. In 2013 for example there were 9000 criminal cases pending against SAPS personnel. In 2013, 1050 police were charged with serious crimes after the audit period.

About 5% of SAPS is highly corrupt criminals, that's just using the known numbers on those who get caught.

https://africacheck.org/reports/south-a ... been-told/

... you see a real journalist could research all this and apply the numbers and facts to the story. But they just don't bother and instead call everyone Terreblanche, every farmer is Terreblanche, everyone that reports the story is Terreblanche also.

Yes. Unlikely.

I don't dispute that some criminality exists within the SAPS and perhaps there are some policemen who are involved in the farm attacks, but to suggest that there is an active campaign to drive white farmers off their land is preposterous.

maxbox wrote:

Rinkals wrote:

SamShark wrote:I have no knowledge of South Africa so won't comment on that, but I don't see Katie Hopkins as a journalist as such.

She regularly calls London a dangerous hell hole that she would never visit and tells Americans that they would never want their country to be as dangerous as the UK, so full of extremism that goes unchallenged because there's a left wing establishment conspiracy to protect Muslims.

She's also outspoken against vaccination.

You have to be careful about anyone who reports with a single agenda. Sadly more of this is being regarded as journalism or worthy of discussion these days.

She plays directly to the racist white minority.

The problem is that it's an extremely dangerous message that she's pushing. It's all very well to peddle this disingenuous pish in the UK where the whites are a sizable majority; here in South Africa we have around 3 million whites in a population of about 60 million.

Sweet Jesus is the white population really that low now? 3 freaken million?

That's off the top of my head and I stand open to correction, but we are certainly in the minority.

Bokkom wrote:This is probably why Rinkhals loves and trusts the MSM so much. They report only the things he wants to hear. Then again, we all suffer from some sort of confirmation bias, I guess.

Jesus.

The ironing.

If you find Katie Hopkins a reliable, unbiased and trustworthy source, that's entirety up to you

Rinkals wrote:

maxbox wrote:

Rinkals wrote:

SamShark wrote:I have no knowledge of South Africa so won't comment on that, but I don't see Katie Hopkins as a journalist as such.

She regularly calls London a dangerous hell hole that she would never visit and tells Americans that they would never want their country to be as dangerous as the UK, so full of extremism that goes unchallenged because there's a left wing establishment conspiracy to protect Muslims.

She's also outspoken against vaccination.

You have to be careful about anyone who reports with a single agenda. Sadly more of this is being regarded as journalism or worthy of discussion these days.

She plays directly to the racist white minority.

The problem is that it's an extremely dangerous message that she's pushing. It's all very well to peddle this disingenuous pish in the UK where the whites are a sizable majority; here in South Africa we have around 3 million whites in a population of about 60 million.

Sweet Jesus is the white population really that low now? 3 freaken million?

That's off the top of my head and I stand open to correction, but we are certainly in the minority.

5 million in a country of 55 million

3 million Afrikaans whiteys
2 million English whiteys

Ok.

I stand corrected.

Is that from the 2010 census? I would imagine that things have moved on since then.

In the meantime - Limpopo (white, private) doctor faces sanction because of alleged racial segregation in waiting rooms. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News ... s-20180209
Outrage !!

But a white survivor of a farm attack (shot tree times) is denied pain medicine, forced to stand for hours whilst "waiting for a bed", being subjected to basic inhuman treatment. Torture, in other words.
(TG can describe the medical protocol for a gunshot victim, as in this case .. as a point of interest)
To such an extent that even the racist Minister of Health is petitioned to issue an apology for the staff's misbehaviour and dereliction of duty ...
https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus ... le-verkla/

And the MSM in SA do not whisper about it, not a word ... .Nor did the SAPS have any idea as to the whereabouts of the criminals, who shot the people, nor if ever, or when, they will be apprehended ..

Rinkals will probably start guessing what heinous deeds the fokken farmer comitted, during apartheid and even recently, to deserve such treatment. Possibly .... only.


Nah, old Katie is on to a good thing here, if only she can be heard ...

Wilson's Toffee wrote:In the meantime - Limpopo (white, private) doctor faces sanction because of alleged racial segregation in waiting rooms. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News ... s-20180209
Outrage !!

But a white survivor of a farm attack (shot tree times) is denied pain medicine, forced to stand for hours whilst "waiting for a bed", being subjected to basic inhuman treatment. Torture, in other words.
(TG can describe the medical protocol for a gunshot victim, as in this case .. as a point of interest)
To such an extent that even the racist Minister of Health is petitioned to issue an apology for the staff's misbehaviour and dereliction of duty ...
https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus ... le-verkla/

And the MSM in SA do not whisper about it, not a word ... .Nor did the SAPS have any idea as to the whereabouts of the criminals, who shot the people, nor if ever, or when, they will be apprehended ..

Rinkals will probably start guessing what heinous deeds the fokken farmer comitted, during apartheid and even recently, to deserve such treatment. Possibly .... only.


Nah, old Katie is on to a good thing here, if only she can be heard ...

South Africa is in dire straits because of this backward thinking.

Nice citation of maroela media there, you absolute racist tool

Wilson's Toffee wrote:In the meantime - Limpopo (white, private) doctor faces sanction because of alleged racial segregation in waiting rooms. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News ... s-20180209
Outrage !!

But a white survivor of a farm attack (shot tree times) is denied pain medicine, forced to stand for hours whilst "waiting for a bed", being subjected to basic inhuman treatment. Torture, in other words.
(TG can describe the medical protocol for a gunshot victim, as in this case .. as a point of interest)
To such an extent that even the racist Minister of Health is petitioned to issue an apology for the staff's misbehaviour and dereliction of duty ...
https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus ... le-verkla/

And the MSM in SA do not whisper about it, not a word ... .Nor did the SAPS have any idea as to the whereabouts of the criminals, who shot the people, nor if ever, or when, they will be apprehended ..

Rinkals will probably start guessing what heinous deeds the fokken farmer comitted, during apartheid and even recently, to deserve such treatment. Possibly .... only.


Nah, old Katie is on to a good thing here, if only she can be heard ...

This is more bullshit.

And if I try yo defend myself, I get accused of abusing other posters.

It is quite obvious that Hopkins is try to inflame racial tension here, but she's ok; if things get out of hand she can always go back to the UK.

Have you ever been to a Government hospital ER, WT?

There are hundreds of patients and very few medical staff. Everybody has to wait and just because you have a white skin doesn't automatically push you to the front of the queue as it did in the good old days.

Rinkals wrote:

Bokkom wrote:This is probably why Rinkhals loves and trusts the MSM so much. They report only the things he wants to hear. Then again, we all suffer from some sort of confirmation bias, I guess.

Jesus.

The ironing.

If you find Katie Hopkins a reliable, unbiased and trustworthy source, that's entirety up to you

Now where did I say this?

Rinkals wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:In the meantime - Limpopo (white, private) doctor faces sanction because of alleged racial segregation in waiting rooms. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News ... s-20180209
Outrage !!

But a white survivor of a farm attack (shot tree times) is denied pain medicine, forced to stand for hours whilst "waiting for a bed", being subjected to basic inhuman treatment. Torture, in other words.
(TG can describe the medical protocol for a gunshot victim, as in this case .. as a point of interest)
To such an extent that even the racist Minister of Health is petitioned to issue an apology for the staff's misbehaviour and dereliction of duty ...
https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus ... le-verkla/

And the MSM in SA do not whisper about it, not a word ... .Nor did the SAPS have any idea as to the whereabouts of the criminals, who shot the people, nor if ever, or when, they will be apprehended ..

Rinkals will probably start guessing what heinous deeds the fokken farmer comitted, during apartheid and even recently, to deserve such treatment. Possibly .... only.


Nah, old Katie is on to a good thing here, if only she can be heard ...

This is more bullshit.

And if I try yo defend myself, I get accused of abusing other posters.

It is quite obvious that Hopkins is try to inflame racial tension here, but she's ok; if things get out of hand she can always go back to the UK.

Have you ever been to a Government hospital ER, WT?

There are hundreds of patients and very few medical staff. Everybody has to wait and just because you have a white skin doesn't automatically push you to the front of the queue as it did in the good old days.

Precisely - it is as if he thinks only white people get bad service at state hospitals, its ridiculous!!!!