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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:53 pm 
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That wasn't high at all?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:00 pm 
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They gave the welsh hooker some flying lessons there - massive scrum


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:04 pm 
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Fairly average half from England... too many handling errors and some nice enough tries.

Wales piss poor out there. Good intensity in defence though which I assume is what they've worked hard on.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:17 pm 
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Fairly average half from England... too many handling errors and some nice enough tries.

Wales piss poor out there. Good intensity in defence though which I assume is what they've worked hard on.


Wales are good in defense. You see it in attack how more fluid England are. Probably doesn't help Wales 10 was a flanker until recently, their fullback is a better 7's player and a 10 usually and half the squad have under 20 caps. Still they have come a long way but they have a long way to go.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:21 pm 
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How can she say the counter ruck is good and then allow the welsh woman to wander in behind the counter-ruck and pick up the ball?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:22 pm 
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Big maul.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:23 pm 
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Wales 6 has played so well under an awful lot of pressure.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:31 pm 
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Wales 6 has played so well under an awful lot of pressure.


Yeah, 3, 5,6 and 8 have been Wales forwards who have been busy.

Wales playing much better in the 2nd half.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:37 pm 
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Burford scores.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:37 pm 
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Lovely from McLean.

That welsh 6 should be off though. That was about as cynical as it gets on a pitch. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:40 pm 
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Ellie can be a bit too selfish but she's 18 so her decision making will improve.

And now she forces it.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:52 pm 
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What? did she miss the 3m knock-on?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:52 pm 
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Poppy Cleall scores. She's a cracking, cracking player.

Women's version of Joe Launchbury.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:53 pm 
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Game gone to pot. Needs a mercy rule.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:02 pm 
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Kildunne is brilliant when she has space to put the afterburners on.


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Kildunne scores a stunner.


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FT: England 52-0 Wales


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Poppy Cleall scores. She's a cracking, cracking player.

Women's version of Joe Launchbury.


I'd say she is comparably much more powerful in the women's game. A women's version of Richard Hill, powerful, fast, physical, skillful always doing loads of work, always in the faces of the opposition always makes good decisions.


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Nice try to round off the game. She's got decent wheels.

Far too one sided to be a good game - England looked impressive at times and they play with a lot of intensity.

And it's looking very wet in Twickenham :(


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Women's rugby six nations would be better to be wound up. A bit of a joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.


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Women's rugby six nations is still a complete joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.

England aren't professional but you continue to prod that line.

England and NZ both have nearly professional leagues though.


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Game gone to pot. Needs a mercy rule.



No it doesn't. It's the Six Nations. The other teams have to work harder to catch up.


I used to coach a dominant team in a women's Premier league and this kind of talk was shouted down by the few of us at the top, reps who'd been around longer than me adding that there were times when our clubs were down at the bottom as well. I was saddened to hear that the league is now putting in place a 'stop counting the score' rule after x number of points and thinking about requiring the best teams to use their bench at a certain point (which wouldn't have helped when I was coaching as I rotate players and have had internationally capped players on the bench :lol: )


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rKihgars wrote:
Women's rugby six nations is still a complete joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.


There aren't any professional teams in the Women's 6 Nations.


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eldanielfire wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
Women's rugby six nations is still a complete joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.


There aren't any professional teams in the Women's 6 Nations.


England are professional in all but name. Ireland / Wales / Scotland / Italy are amateur players with full time jobs. That is why women's six nations is a meaningless competition.
Ohh I'm english, so lets all pretend england are not professional so the results can have some kind of meaning.


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Wendigo7 wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
Women's rugby six nations is still a complete joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.

England aren't professional but you continue to prod that line.

England and NZ both have nearly professional leagues though.



The only thing the English league gets money for is coaches and physios. The women are all amateur and train after work like amateurs. Financially the England women get a grand to a grand and a half per game to compensate for their time off work.

The only professionals in the women's game are 7's players and half the english squad for a few months leading up to the 2017 World cup. Even then half the squad was paid a total of 6 grand for it.


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rKihgars wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
Women's rugby six nations is still a complete joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.


There aren't any professional teams in the Women's 6 Nations.


England are professional in all but name. Ireland / Wales / Scotland / Italy are amateur players with full time jobs. That is why women's six nations is a meaningless competition.



Complete shit. The English players aren't paid, have full time jobs and can only train after work. Marley Packer is a full time plumber. Izzy Noel-Smith is a full time primary teacher, Cockayne is in the army. Several of them are personal trainers including Rocky Clarke and everal of them are PE teachers. Danielle Watrman was Ellie Kildnne's teacher at Hartpury College. The girl's under 22 like Abby Dow, Jess Breech, Ellie Kildunne and Lagi Tuima are all full time students. FFS one player could only play one game of the Canada series in November because she couldn't get time off from Firefighting.

Your claims are made-up.


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eldanielfire wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
Women's rugby six nations is still a complete joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.


There aren't any professional teams in the Women's 6 Nations.


England are professional in all but name. Ireland / Wales / Scotland / Italy are amateur players with full time jobs. That is why women's six nations is a meaningless competition.



Complete shit. The English players aren't paid, have full time jobs and can only train after work. Marley Packer is a full time plumber. Izzy Noel-Smith is a full time primary teacher, Cockayne is in the army. Several of them are personal trainers including Rocky Clarke and everal of them are PE teachers. Danielle Watrman was Ellie Kildnne's teacher at Hartpury College. The girl's under 22 like Abby Dow, Jess Breech, Ellie Kildunne and Lagi Tuima are all full time students. FFS one player could only play one game of the Canada series in November because she couldn't get time off from Firefighting.

Your claims are made-up.

TBF
If they had given her more time off she would have had to be back-squadded.


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eldanielfire wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
Women's rugby six nations is still a complete joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.


There aren't any professional teams in the Women's 6 Nations.


England are professional in all but name. Ireland / Wales / Scotland / Italy are amateur players with full time jobs. That is why women's six nations is a meaningless competition.



Complete shit. The English players aren't paid, have full time jobs and can only train after work. Marley Packer is a full time plumber. Izzy Noel-Smith is a full time primary teacher, Cockayne is in the army. Several of them are personal trainers including Rocky Clarke and everal of them are PE teachers. Danielle Watrman was Ellie Kildnne's teacher at Hartpury College. The girl's under 22 like Abby Dow, Jess Breech, Ellie Kildunne and Lagi Tuima are all full time students. FFS one player could only play one game of the Canada series in November because she couldn't get time off from Firefighting.

Your claims are made-up.



And by the same token, scale back the men's RWC while we're at it because only four nations win it. Two pools of four should do. Complete waste of time for anyone outside that group.


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Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
rKihgars wrote:
Women's rugby six nations is still a complete joke, ,one professional team, all the rest part time amateurs. The result is meaningless until all the teams are professional.


There aren't any professional teams in the Women's 6 Nations.


England are professional in all but name. Ireland / Wales / Scotland / Italy are amateur players with full time jobs. That is why women's six nations is a meaningless competition.



Complete shit. The English players aren't paid, have full time jobs and can only train after work. Marley Packer is a full time plumber. Izzy Noel-Smith is a full time primary teacher, Cockayne is in the army. Several of them are personal trainers including Rocky Clarke and everal of them are PE teachers. Danielle Watrman was Ellie Kildnne's teacher at Hartpury College. The girl's under 22 like Abby Dow, Jess Breech, Ellie Kildunne and Lagi Tuima are all full time students. FFS one player could only play one game of the Canada series in November because she couldn't get time off from Firefighting.

Your claims are made-up.



And by the same token, scale back the men's RWC while we're at it because only four nations win it. Two pools of four should do. Complete waste of time for anyone outside that group.


Given England's men dropped 60+ on Scotland's men last year, they probably need to be given the 6 Nations boot as well.


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Anyone know if Scotland v France (women) at 19.00 (UK time) tonight is being televised?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:43 pm 
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Anyone know if Scotland v France (women) at 19.00 (UK time) tonight is being televised?


It’s going to be live on the BBC iPlayer


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Thanks, Lobby


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Scotland playing very well, went 3- 0 ahead but then conceeded 2 tries before the end of the first half.


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I do love the bromance between Lagi and Carys all this season.


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Womance not bromance.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:57 pm 
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Some lovely ladies were out watching England today.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfB4-LEn9f1 ... y=katymc10


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Indeed. And a few more:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfBwfgxlpbG ... lotteclapp


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Ireland beat Italy 21-8 today. (match on BBC):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43024594

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Confirmation that crowd at The Stoop today was 4,024 - the largest ever ticketed crowd for an @EnglandRugby home @Womens6Nations match.

Records for other nations are:
11156 FRA v Ire (2016)
6000 IRE v Eng (2017)
4500 ITA v Ire (2017)
4113 WAL v Eng (2017)
1650 SCO v Ire (2017)


Ireland couldn't make it a 3rd women's match record this weekend because they sold out Donnybrook last year so they could only equal the women's Irish record. It should be added that England's women can expect to get around 9-10k at Twickenham but it isn't ticketed. I wonder if a more accessible location and a bit more promotion could easily boost England women's numbers. Perhaps playing somewhere else where Rugby is popular and not overshadowed by the men's game like what France do?


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Anyways England overview:

The tight 5: All came out on top of a good Welsh scrum and worked their socks off around the park as usual. Taylor and Scott excellent in the lineouts and Bern especially excellent around the park

The loose forwards: Cleall once again the MVP of the England team. Has really hot the heights of performing at test Rugby. Physical, clever, fast, skillful and full of industry. Deserved MOTM award for the 2nd game in a row. Hunter and Packer put in two good performances as well.

Riley and McLean. Both on good form today, controlling the game.

Burford and Kildunne: Both played great, Burford's passing into space is devastating because it is so fast and accurate, weirdly her worst ever pass was the one for the near dead cert try but otherwise always immense in defense and attack. Kildunne showed her potent attacking talent and natural instinct to read opponents and rip open a half break. Comparisons with Emily Scarrett are obvious, though Kildunne may have more pace, she is still unproven against top opposition in big games. I can't wait for Kildunne to face Ireland (who at least will make life tough for her) and France for a real challenge.

Back 3: Charlotte Pearce looks potentially good though she barely got much opportunity. Waterman was her usual excellent self and Dow seems a test match natural.

Wales:

The tight 5: Held their own for most scrums against England, but I'm not sure Lilicrap is effective in lock as she is in the backrow. Wales may have to accept they have to drop players to field players who play the position better.

The backrow: Beth Lewis was everywhere but not always effective. Still she is a teenager who can only get better. Harries and Bucher both had effective games, carrying hard and getting through lots of work.

Half backs: Wales biggest weaknesses, Parker wasn't effective at getting the ball out fast and her passing as inaccurate. Wilkins has all the skills but she still isn't a good 10 as of yet and is still looking like a converted flanker.

Centres: Filippo was physical as always and one of the few Welsh girls to outdo their English opponents on physicality. A shame she often had to do it from static ball and slow ball. If Wales could get some quick and fluid play from 9-13 then they could ahve a very effective backline. Sadly at the moment a lack of playing together, experience and regular games makes them look like they will struggle to learn to play fluid passing moves and play as opposed to slow, inaccurate passing as the opposition defense closes them down. Strangely they passed better against SCotland. A shame for Lake she got injured.

Back 3: Snowsill is one of Wales most talented players, but she isn't a XVs player, she almost never puts in any sort of performance that suggests she is any good against decent opposition. Neither wing really got the ball though Bluck really tried to find work and carry hard.

Overall: For Wales to get better, they need to to get experienced and get their backs playing attacking rugby as if it is natural for them, not as first timers every time. Their forward pack are solid but then to have to do to much as the team can't yet devise ways to get into attacking positions or use their possession in any effective manner. If Wales are genuinely getting serious about women's Rugby then they need to play some games over the summer and November and host some training camps periodically to keep improving the team. They also need to develop an U20 side to bring young talent through with a style of play and understanding that can be a platform for the national side. Chances are they won't play a test game until next years 6 nations.


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