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U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:07 pm
by Margin_Walker
Also kick off at the weekend. Any stand out players to look out for this year at this level?

ROUND 1
02/02/2018 19:00 18:00 Italy U20s V England U20s Stadio Enzo Bearzot

02/02/2018 20:15 20:15 Wales U20s V Scotland U20s Parc Eirias, Colwyn Bay

02/02/2018 21:00 France U20s V Ireland U20s Stade Chaban-Delmas


ROUND 2
09/02/2018 19:15 19:15 Ireland U20s V Italy U20s Donnybrook, Dublin

09/02/2018 19:45 19:45 England U20s V Wales U20s Kingston Park

09/02/2018 19:45 19:45 Scotland U20s V France U20s Broadwood Stadium


ROUND 3
23/02/2018 18:45 17:45 France U20s V Italy U20s Stade Jean-Laville

23/02/2018 19:15 19:15 Ireland U20s V Wales U20s Donnybrook, Dublin

23/02/2018 19:30 19:30 Scotland U20s V England U20s Myreside


ROUND 4
09/03/2018 19:15 19:15 Ireland U20s V Scotland U20s Donnybrook, Dublin

09/03/2018 19:15 19:15 Wales U20s V Italy U20s Parc Eirias, Colwyn Bay

09/03/2018 21:00 20:00 France U20s V England U20s Stade de la Méditerranée


ROUND 5
16/03/2018 15:00 14:00 Italy U20s V Scotland U20s Stadio della Vittoria

16/03/2018 20:00 20:00 England U20s V Ireland U20s Ricoh Arena

16/03/2018 20:15 20:15 Wales U20s V France U20s Parc Eirias, Colwyn Bay

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:08 pm
by Margin_Walker
England team for Italy on Friday

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Back row certainly the strongest area on paper with three real prospects

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:15 pm
by Jeff the Bear
Welsh team for the Sweaties:
15 Cai Evans (Ospreys)*
14 Joe Goodchild (Dragons)
13 Corey Baldwin (Scarlets)
12 Callum Carson (Ospreys)*
11 Ryan Conbeer (Scarlets)
10 Ben Jones (Cardiff Blues)
9 Harri Morgan (Ospreys)*
1 Rhys Carre (Cardiff Blues)
2 Iestyn Harris (Cardiff Blues)*
3 Sam Wainwright (RGC)*
4 Jack Pope (Bridgend)
5 Max Williams (Dragons)
6 Tommy Reffell (c) (Leicester Tigers)*
7 Dan Davies (Scarlets)*
8 Taine Basham (Dragons)*

Replacements

16 Dewi Lake (Ospreys)*
17 Josh Reynolds (Dragons)*
18 Rhys Henry (Ospreys)*
19 Morgan Jones (Scarlets)*
20 Morgan Morris (Ospreys)
21 Dan Babos (Dragons)*
22 Ben Thomas (Cardiff Blues)*
23 Tommy Rogers (Scarlets)*

*Uncapped at U20 level

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:17 pm
by ovalball
Are the games televised ? Can't see the Italy England game advertised on any channels.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:19 pm
by Jeff the Bear
The Welsh home games always are:
Coverage: Watch live on BBC Two Wales, Red Button, Connected TVs, BBC Sport website and mobile app. Updates on BBC Radio Wales.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/42887120

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:20 pm
by Margin_Walker
ovalball wrote:Are the games televised ? Can't see the Italy England game advertised on any channels.
Two England home games are on Sky iirc. Not looking promising for Friday unless it's on Italian TV and streamable. RFU certainly don't seem to be running a stream.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:20 pm
by Jeff the Bear
Interesting to note that, as per most years, our best player is not there as he's made the jump up to the big boys (Will Jones, he who judo throws you if you start a scuffle, is with the Ospreys)

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:24 pm
by Margin_Walker
Jeff the Bear wrote:Interesting to note that, as per most years, our best player is not there as he's made the jump up to the big boys (Will Jones, he who judo throws you if you start a scuffle, is with the Ospreys)
don't worry our lads won't be to big for you this year Jeff. Even the lad that's unavailable training with the seniors looks about 12

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Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:34 pm
by Saint
Margin_Walker wrote:England team for Italy on Friday

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Back row certainly the strongest area on paper with three real prospects
Larry Jr already written off by the bored

Dingwall and Trinder both highly rated at Saints, Dingwall in particular

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:37 pm
by Clive Simms
Margin_Walker wrote:Also kick off at the weekend. Any stand out players to look out for this year at this level?
England number 6 - future Wales captain

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:38 pm
by Jeff the Bear
Margin_Walker wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:Interesting to note that, as per most years, our best player is not there as he's made the jump up to the big boys (Will Jones, he who judo throws you if you start a scuffle, is with the Ospreys)
don't worry our lads won't be to big for you this year Jeff. Even the lad that's unavailable training with the seniors looks about 12

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We're going to rolling with a smallish backrow at least. I note Sam Moore is deemed not big enough to nail down a No.8 position...whereas our starting No.8 played for the Dragons the other week as a small openside (5 foot 11 inches). :?

It is as it ever was.

Still, I look forward to the U20's 6 nations almost as much as the real thing. As long as the games don't blow out, they are invariably entertaining affairs.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:42 pm
by Margin_Walker
Jeff the Bear wrote: We're going to rolling with a smallish backrow at least. I note Sam Moore is deemed not big enough to nail down a No.8 position...whereas our starting No.8 played for the Dragons the other week as a small openside (5 foot 11 inches). :?

It is as it ever was.

Still, I look forward to the U20's 6 nations almost as much as the real thing. As long as the games don't blow out, they are invariably entertaining affairs.
We're even playing a back row at lock. We're tiny I promise (although no Randall this year unfortunately)

Yeah, always enjoy watching the U20s. Interesting to try and figure out who's going to make it big.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:43 pm
by ovalball
Jeff the Bear wrote:
Margin_Walker wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:Interesting to note that, as per most years, our best player is not there as he's made the jump up to the big boys (Will Jones, he who judo throws you if you start a scuffle, is with the Ospreys)
don't worry our lads won't be to big for you this year Jeff. Even the lad that's unavailable training with the seniors looks about 12

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We're going to rolling with a smallish backrow at least. I note Sam Moore is deemed not big enough to nail down a No.8 position...whereas our starting No.8 played for the Dragons the other week as a small openside (5 foot 11 inches). :?

It is as it ever was.

Still, I look forward to the U20's 6 nations almost as much as the real thing. As long as the games don't blow out, they are invariably entertaining affairs.
I love watching the u20s. The games are always entertaining - fast and open. And we tend to be quite good. With the bonus that I get nowhere near as nervous and losing doesn't piss me off for the whole week.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:49 pm
by Margin_Walker
Saint wrote:
Larry Jr already written off by the bored

Dingwall and Trinder both highly rated at Saints, Dingwall in particular
Grayson's looked okay the couple of times I've seen him. Obviously got a big name at 10 to try and live up to.

Several LI lads involved this year. The two starting (Parton and Loader) probably the most promising. Parton played plenty last year and did pretty well until getting run over by some big polynesian lads in the JWC final. Filled out a bit now though and doing well at London Scottish. Loader's just the next promising wing off the production line, fairly big and quick

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:15 pm
by Raggs
Margin_Walker wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote: We're going to rolling with a smallish backrow at least. I note Sam Moore is deemed not big enough to nail down a No.8 position...whereas our starting No.8 played for the Dragons the other week as a small openside (5 foot 11 inches). :?

It is as it ever was.

Still, I look forward to the U20's 6 nations almost as much as the real thing. As long as the games don't blow out, they are invariably entertaining affairs.
We're even playing a back row at lock. We're tiny I promise (although no Randall this year unfortunately)

Yeah, always enjoy watching the U20s. Interesting to try and figure out who's going to make it big.
You're not going to win this one Margin, the Welsh are small plucky skillful underdogs, the English are roided up orcs relying purely on brute force. Even when it's rarely conceded that the Welsh lads are bigger, the English still have greater physicality, and are therefore roided up orcs relying purely on brute force.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:30 pm
by Margin_Walker
French for the Ireland game, inc. Brennan Jr.

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And the Irish

15. Michael Silvester (Dublin University/Leinster) 4
14. Peter Sullivan (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
13. David McCarthy (Garryowen/Munster) 4
12. Tommy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster) (capt) 5
11. James McCarthy (UL Bohemians/Munster) *
10. Harry Byrne (UCD/Leinster) *
9. Jonny Stewart (Queen's University/Ulster) 10
1. Jordan Duggan (Naas/Leinster) 4
2. Ronan Kelleher (Lansdowne/Leinster) 8
3. Jack Aungier (St. Mary's College/Leinster) *
4. Cormac Daly (Clontarf/Leinster) *
5. Jack Dunne (Dublin University/Leinster) *
6. Matthew Dalton (Malone/Ulster) *
7. Aaron Hall (Ballynahinch/Ulster) *
8. Jack O'Sullivan (UCC/Munster) *

Replacements:

16. Diarmuid Barron (Garryowen/Munster) 1
17. James French (UCC/Munster) *
18. Tom O'Toole (Banbridge/Ulster) *
19. Ronan Coffey (Shannon/Munster) *
20. Sean Masterson (Corinthians/Connacht) 4
21. Hugh O'Sullivan (Clontarf/Leinster) *
22. Angus Curtis (Queen's University/Ulster) 1
23. Angus Kernohan (Ballymena RFC/Ulster) *

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:03 pm
by Margin_Walker
Italy v England is live on the England Rugby FB page tomorrow at 18.00 GMT

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:08 pm
by Andalu
How closely do the results correlate with the world cup?

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:20 pm
by Raggs
Andalu wrote:How closely do the results correlate with the world cup?
Not perfectly due to some players not getting released due to playing for senior sides.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:21 pm
by ovalball
Margin_Walker wrote:Italy v England is live on the England Rugby FB page tomorrow at 18.00 GMT
:thumbup:

Thanks

Excellent news

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:24 pm
by Andalu
Raggs wrote:
Andalu wrote:How closely do the results correlate with the world cup?
Not perfectly due to some players not getting released due to playing for senior sides.
I assume you mean the world cup sides are generally stronger?

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:35 pm
by Raggs
Andalu wrote:
Raggs wrote:
Andalu wrote:How closely do the results correlate with the world cup?
Not perfectly due to some players not getting released due to playing for senior sides.
I assume you mean the world cup sides are generally stronger?
Normally yes.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:47 pm
by message #2527204
Clive Simms wrote:
Margin_Walker wrote:Also kick off at the weekend. Any stand out players to look out for this year at this level?
England number 6 - future Wales captain
We may also have the future scotland captain, Redpath, playing at 10 before the end of the year.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:44 am
by sturginho
Margin_Walker wrote:
ovalball wrote:Are the games televised ? Can't see the Italy England game advertised on any channels.
Two England home games are on Sky iirc. Not looking promising for Friday unless it's on Italian TV and streamable. RFU certainly don't seem to be running a stream.
It'll be streamed on the FIR facebook page

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:41 pm
by irishrugbyua
YOYO wrote:
Margin_Walker wrote:French for the Ireland game, inc. Brennan Jr.
Spoiler: show
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And the Irish

15. Michael Silvester (Dublin University/Leinster) 4
14. Peter Sullivan (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
13. David McCarthy (Garryowen/Munster) 4
12. Tommy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster) (capt) 5
11. James McCarthy (UL Bohemians/Munster) *
10. Harry Byrne (UCD/Leinster) *
9. Jonny Stewart (Queen's University/Ulster) 10
1. Jordan Duggan (Naas/Leinster) 4
2. Ronan Kelleher (Lansdowne/Leinster) 8
3. Jack Aungier (St. Mary's College/Leinster) *
4. Cormac Daly (Clontarf/Leinster) *
5. Jack Dunne (Dublin University/Leinster) *
6. Matthew Dalton (Malone/Ulster) *
7. Aaron Hall (Ballynahinch/Ulster) *
8. Jack O'Sullivan (UCC/Munster) *

Replacements:

16. Diarmuid Barron (Garryowen/Munster) 1
17. James French (UCC/Munster) *
18. Tom O'Toole (Banbridge/Ulster) *
19. Ronan Coffey (Shannon/Munster) *
20. Sean Masterson (Corinthians/Connacht) 4
21. Hugh O'Sullivan (Clontarf/Leinster) *
22. Angus Curtis (Queen's University/Ulster) 1
23. Angus Kernohan (Ballymena RFC/Ulster) *
Think the Ireland hooker is the younger brother of former Leinster and current Connacht winger Cian Kelleher.

Ireland captain and 12 Tommy O'Brien seems like one to watch from Ireland. He played u20s last year as well.
He is the younger brother.

Yeah O'Brien is irelands standout back by a good bit.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:01 pm
by Saturnine
Wales v Scotland is live on BBC2 Wales tonight.

Either Channel 971 on Sky, or via iplayer (Choose Category>Wales>BBC2>Watch Live)

The fullback - Cai Evans - is the son of Ieuan. Hope he's inherited his father's pace and stepping ability...

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:09 pm
by eldanielfire
Saturnine wrote:Wales v Scotland is live on BBC2 Wales tonight.

Either Channel 971 on Sky, or via iplayer (Choose Category>Wales>BBC2>Watch Live)

The fullback - Cai Evans - is the son of Ieuan. Hope he's inherited his father's pace and stepping ability...

..and none of his defense.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:12 pm
by Saturnine
eldanielfire wrote:
Saturnine wrote:Wales v Scotland is live on BBC2 Wales tonight.

Either Channel 971 on Sky, or via iplayer (Choose Category>Wales>BBC2>Watch Live)

The fullback - Cai Evans - is the son of Ieuan. Hope he's inherited his father's pace and stepping ability...

..and none of his defense.
Eh? Ieuan was a good defender - always brought his man down.

The 3rd Lions Test in SA in 1997 was an example of "you don't know what you've got till it's gone."

Bentos came in and a previously watertight channel was being smashed open time and again.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:14 pm
by eldanielfire
Saturnine wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Saturnine wrote:Wales v Scotland is live on BBC2 Wales tonight.

Either Channel 971 on Sky, or via iplayer (Choose Category>Wales>BBC2>Watch Live)

The fullback - Cai Evans - is the son of Ieuan. Hope he's inherited his father's pace and stepping ability...

..and none of his defense.
Eh? Ieuan was a good defender - always brought his man down.

The 3rd Lions Test in SA in 1997 was an example of "you don't know what you've got till it's gone."

Bentos came in and a previously watertight channel was being smashed open time and again.
To be fair I might be mixing him up, a bit before my time. Actually I might be thinking of the loud mouth aussie that helped Ieuan win that Liosn series.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:17 pm
by Saturnine
eldanielfire wrote:
Saturnine wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Saturnine wrote:Wales v Scotland is live on BBC2 Wales tonight.

Either Channel 971 on Sky, or via iplayer (Choose Category>Wales>BBC2>Watch Live)

The fullback - Cai Evans - is the son of Ieuan. Hope he's inherited his father's pace and stepping ability...

..and none of his defense.
Eh? Ieuan was a good defender - always brought his man down.

The 3rd Lions Test in SA in 1997 was an example of "you don't know what you've got till it's gone."

Bentos came in and a previously watertight channel was being smashed open time and again.
To be fair I might be mixing him up, a bit before my time. Actually I might be thinking of the loud mouth aussie that helped Ieuan win that Liosn series.
Campo? Yeah, tackling wasn't his forte! Though that was more throwing a blind pass behind his own tryline that contributed to that particular balls-up!

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:41 pm
by SASP
Is it really a 9pm kick off for the France Ireland game?

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:54 pm
by irishrugbyua
SASP wrote:Is it really a 9pm kick off for the France Ireland game?
8pm ireland

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:11 pm
by 4071
sturginho wrote:
Margin_Walker wrote:
ovalball wrote:Are the games televised ? Can't see the Italy England game advertised on any channels.
Two England home games are on Sky iirc. Not looking promising for Friday unless it's on Italian TV and streamable. RFU certainly don't seem to be running a stream.
It'll be streamed on the FIR facebook page
Are you sure...?

https://www.facebook.com/Federugby/

EDIT: Got it.

https://www.facebook.com/Federugby/vide ... 278665132/

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:16 pm
by ovalball
4071 wrote:
sturginho wrote:
Margin_Walker wrote:
ovalball wrote:Are the games televised ? Can't see the Italy England game advertised on any channels.
Two England home games are on Sky iirc. Not looking promising for Friday unless it's on Italian TV and streamable. RFU certainly don't seem to be running a stream.
It'll be streamed on the FIR facebook page
Are you sure...?

https://www.facebook.com/Federugby/

EDIT: Got it.

https://www.facebook.com/Federugby/vide ... 278665132/
I'm watching on the RFU facebook page

England 3 nil up but not having things all their own way.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:19 pm
by Wendigo7
Italy 0-8 England 18 mins

Maul scored.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:20 pm
by ovalball
8 nil from a powerful maul off a line out - conversion missed.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:22 pm
by 4071
ovalball wrote:
4071 wrote:
sturginho wrote:
Margin_Walker wrote:
ovalball wrote:Are the games televised ? Can't see the Italy England game advertised on any channels.
Two England home games are on Sky iirc. Not looking promising for Friday unless it's on Italian TV and streamable. RFU certainly don't seem to be running a stream.
It'll be streamed on the FIR facebook page
Are you sure...?

https://www.facebook.com/Federugby/

EDIT: Got it.

https://www.facebook.com/Federugby/vide ... 278665132/
I'm watching on the RFU facebook page

England 3 nil up but not having things all their own way.
Facebook hates me.

The FIR link no longer works for me and I can't find it on the RFU page. It's not under Videos.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:28 pm
by ovalball
4071 wrote:
The FIR link no longer works for me and I can't find it on the RFU page. It's not under Videos.
Look under 'posts'

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:29 pm
by Wendigo7
Italy were offside quite a bit throughout that goal line defense haha.

Ah well, you get away with it, for the most part you've done well.

Re: U20 6 Nations 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:32 pm
by 4071
I'm glad I found it in time to see that kick from Ibitoye... :)