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Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:20 pm
by MaccTaff
Mick Mannock wrote:
MaccTaff wrote:Two days to go and we’ve limped onto page 4, and that includes Dai’s bleatings.

For shame.
Ireland/Italy is still on page 2
I just assume the swarm all post on the “abomination”.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:20 pm
by Dai another day
ovalball wrote:
Dai another day wrote:So 62% think England are going to win. Still heavy favourites but I remember in 2015 when 90% thought England was going to win.
Which way did you vote ???

You'd certainly expect England to be favourites at home - but being favourites doesn't you get points on the board.

And Wales like nothing better than being underdogs - and have the advantage that most of their team play together week in, week out.

Wales by 10
A gentleman never tells.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:21 pm
by ovalball
MaccTaff wrote:Wales by 10??

You were doing well until then.
You think it'll be more :shock:

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:22 pm
by Dai another day
It is forecasted to rain on Saturday. Will surely suit the Orc plodders.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:24 pm
by ovalball
Dai another day wrote:It is forecasted to rain on Saturday. Will surely suit the Orc plodders.
Hopefully there won't be much rain - we need good conditions these days.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:25 pm
by MaccTaff
ovalball wrote:
MaccTaff wrote:Wales by 10??

You were doing well until then.
You think it'll be more :shock:
20 point swing back to England and you might be onto something!

Actually I think Saturday’s game may be one of those where I can tell you within 5 minutes which way it’s going to go.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:30 pm
by ovalball
Which side has the biggest pack ?

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:30 pm
by Rugby2023
Dai another day wrote:It is forecasted to rain on Saturday. Will surely suit the Orc plodders.
Not really, England really don't have many ball-carriers fit for that sort of game. Mako Vunipola aside, the best ones are arguably on the bench.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:31 pm
by Mick Mannock
ovalball wrote:Which side has the biggest pack ?
Wales, I think.

England's is the more athletic

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:36 pm
by ovalball
Mick Mannock wrote:
ovalball wrote:Which side has the biggest pack ?
Wales, I think.

England's is the more athletic
They were certainly bigger last year - I think England had the the 4th largest pack in the tournament. And it's probably lighter with Simmonds packing down at 8.

Just wondered because Gatland has, a couple of times, referred to England's 'massive' pack - which seems odd.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:39 pm
by englishchief
How many English poaches in the Welsh matchday squad? It's usually at least 2 or 3, but they've definitely cut down from RWC 2015.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:41 pm
by MaccTaff
Who are the poaches?

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:43 pm
by ovalball
MaccTaff wrote:Who are the poaches?
Shingler was born in Aldershot.......

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:44 pm
by ovalball
Moriarty - born in St Helens

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:53 pm
by MaccTaff
I'll give you Shingler to a very small extent, albeit he grew up in Wales, and his brother was born there while Shingler was a toddler!

Ross Moriarty is ridiculous to call a poach, but I suspect you know that!

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:13 pm
by ovalball
MaccTaff wrote:I'll give you Shingler to a very small extent, albeit he grew up in Wales, and his brother was born there while Shingler was a toddler!

Ross Moriarty is ridiculous to call a poach, but I suspect you know that!
TBH, no idea of their background - just noticed he was born in England.

In all honesty - such accidents of birth are inevitable on a small Island like ours - in modern days of mobility. I've never been very keen on the Grandparents rule though.

And we can hardly complain about Welsh poaching when we have a fair few of our own.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:17 pm
by bessantj
Tomas Francis was born in York. Did you know he has a degree in mechanical engineering, that's pretty cool.

I am looking forward to the match even though I think England are going to win and more than likely win by more than 10 points.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:24 pm
by bessantj
Also can we just laugh at Scott Baldwin for a second
In 2017, he was bitten on the hand by a captive lion at Weltevrede Game Lodge near Bloemfontein, South Africa. Ospreys coach Steve Tandy described Baldwin's conduct as "pretty stupid", and added "I don't know what sort of wildlife show Scott has been watching where you can pat a lion on the head as if it's a kitten".
:lol: :lol: That's just great.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:23 pm
by Double
As nervous as I am about this match, I was going through the teams and struggling to pick Welsh players I'd have over English counterparts. Probably Halfpenny and Navidi, possibly Shingler and Williams? But I'm not seeing many Welsh caps in the combined XV.

Someone's going to come along and say AWJ, they're going to be wrong though.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:37 pm
by cubby boi
Double wrote:As nervous as I am about this match, I was going through the teams and struggling to pick Welsh players I'd have over English counterparts. Probably Halfpenny and Navidi, possibly Shingler and Williams? But I'm not seeing many Welsh caps in the combined XV.

Someone's going to come along and say AWJ, they're going to be wrong though.
Assuming you’re being serious, I think you could say exactly the same from the opposite perspective.

I think the front fives are very evenly matched. Wales flankers currently on top with England’s 8.

I think most would take Gareth Davies over Care and Ford over Patchell (if just for experience, as Patchell is playing extremely well)

Centres probably about all square.

Steff Evans and Watson both on fire. The opposite wingers and 15’s all solid and dependable.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:45 pm
by DragsterDriver
bessantj wrote:Tomas Francis was born in York. Did you know he has a degree in mechanical engineering, that's pretty cool.

I am looking forward to the match even though I think England are going to win and more than likely win by more than 10 points.

He’s turned into a really decent prop.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:55 pm
by matta25
DragsterDriver wrote:
bessantj wrote:Tomas Francis was born in York. Did you know he has a degree in mechanical engineering, that's pretty cool.

I am looking forward to the match even though I think England are going to win and more than likely win by more than 10 points.

He’s turned into a really decent prop.
He's come a long way

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Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:58 pm
by happyhooker
Seriously matta, how do you do it?

Just mention a prop on here and within seconds you appear!!

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:01 pm
by Mick Mannock
Neil Francis has labelled prop Tomas Francis 'a crap player'

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:08 pm
by Plato'sCave
bessantj wrote:Tomas Francis was born in York. Did you know he has a degree in mechanical engineering, that's pretty cool.

I am looking forward to the match even though I think England are going to win and more than likely win by more than 10 points.
So he's basically the Welsh Dolph Lundgren, apart from he's not got a masters degree, it's not in chemical engineering, he's not an director, screenwriter or producer, he's not a 3rd dan in karate and he's not over 6'4''.

#DolphFrancis

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:08 pm
by Mick Mannock
There will be some freakish talent on show.

And one or two freaks
https://twitter.com/rugbypodcast/status ... 1788643328

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:11 pm
by matta25
happyhooker wrote:Seriously matta, how do you do it?

Just mention a prop on here and within seconds you appear!!
Mention one three times and see what happens... :P

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:13 pm
by bessantj
DragsterDriver wrote:
bessantj wrote:Tomas Francis was born in York. Did you know he has a degree in mechanical engineering, that's pretty cool.

I am looking forward to the match even though I think England are going to win and more than likely win by more than 10 points.

He’s turned into a really decent prop.
Yes, Exeter have a good prop on their hands.
Plato'sCave wrote:
bessantj wrote:Tomas Francis was born in York. Did you know he has a degree in mechanical engineering, that's pretty cool.

I am looking forward to the match even though I think England are going to win and more than likely win by more than 10 points.
So he's basically the Welsh Dolph Lundgren, apart from he's not got a masters degree, it's not in chemical engineering, he's not an director, screenwriter or producer, he's not a 3rd dan in karate and he's not over 6'4''.

#DolphFrancis
Nailed it.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:14 pm
by Mick Mannock
England to taunt Samson Lee
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on about 60 mins

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Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:15 pm
by bessantj
Mick Mannock wrote:England to taunt Samson Lee
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Look how small his face is, you could sell advertising space on his forehead.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:18 pm
by Mick Mannock
c69 wrote:Tommy used to work down the Docks....
Is that Lee's nickname

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:23 pm
by Double
Samson Lee's face gets me every time :lol:
cubby boi wrote:
Double wrote:As nervous as I am about this match, I was going through the teams and struggling to pick Welsh players I'd have over English counterparts. Probably Halfpenny and Navidi, possibly Shingler and Williams? But I'm not seeing many Welsh caps in the combined XV.

Someone's going to come along and say AWJ, they're going to be wrong though.
Assuming you’re being serious, I think you could say exactly the same from the opposite perspective.

I think the front fives are very evenly matched. Wales flankers currently on top with England’s 8.

I think most would take Gareth Davies over Care and Ford over Patchell (if just for experience, as Patchell is playing extremely well)

Centres probably about all square.

Steff Evans and Watson both on fire. The opposite wingers and 15’s all solid and dependable.
See I'd have England's front 5 as pretty well ahead as a unit, and man-for-man. Scrumhalf is close, but I don't think fly-half is. England's wingers are more experienced, but I agree that it's close. Not sure how you arrived at Parkes being about equal with Farrell though.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:14 pm
by Sissyfuss
I really think this game could go either way. On one hand England have pace and power. On the other, Wales have guile and cunning.

My head says Wales. My heart says England.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:23 pm
by Mick Mannock
c69 wrote:Eddie trash talking Patchell in the media. Shame.
“Every time Jonathan Joseph looks up he’s going to see Rhys Patchell in his vision – it’s not a pretty sight,” Jones said. “Wales have to get the ball wide and Patchell hasn’t played much Test match rugby. He’s a young guy, he’s inexperienced and is their third-choice 10."

I don't see a problem

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:24 pm
by Sissyfuss
c69 wrote:Eddie trash talking Patchell in the media. Shame.
I hope this is not true. While the man is obviously a gifted coach I do not understand why he feels the need to be such a see you next Tuesday.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:25 pm
by happyhooker
Sissyfuss wrote:
c69 wrote:Eddie trash talking Patchell in the media. Shame.
I hope this is not true. While the man is obviously a gifted coach I do not understand why he feels the need to be such a see you next Tuesday.
He just doesn't like people who impersonate prince harry.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:32 pm
by bessantj
Mick Mannock wrote:
c69 wrote:Eddie trash talking Patchell in the media. Shame.
“Every time Jonathan Joseph looks up he’s going to see Rhys Patchell in his vision – it’s not a pretty sight,” Jones said. “Wales have to get the ball wide and Patchell hasn’t played much Test match rugby. He’s a young guy, he’s inexperienced and is their third-choice 10."

I don't see a problem
Yeah well 3x10 is 30, that's right Patchell is rated 30/10 - Gatlandmaths.

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:34 pm
by ManInTheBar
Nowhere near enough spite in the first 4 pages. Thank God for Eddie

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:55 pm
by tc27
The build up really is much more enjoyable with Henry about....anyone know whats happened to him?

Re: England Vs Wales OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:02 pm
by Brazil
tc27 wrote:The build up really is much more enjoyable with Henry about....anyone know whats happened to him?
Last I heard from him he was asking if there was a cabal for the England-Italy match to provide a nice rounding off/stay of execution for the previous five days on the piss.