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Mick Mannock wrote:Every year an individual Wal v Eng player comparison leads to the Welsh giving their players higher marks. They then explain that they will lose anyway because one of their players (the Cuthbert argument) is total shit, or some inexperience, or the bench is weak. So England will win due to strength in depth due to population size, or so on.

Saturnine wrote:Bit disappointed that when Eddie was banging on about Alun Wyn intimidating referees and bringing in behaviour from other sports, that a hack didn't point out that only one of the captains on Saturday has been red-carded and banned for calling a ref a "f*cking cheat".

That might have stemmed his flow somewhat.

ovalball wrote:Eddie having a little pop at Alun Wyn Jones - suggesting he needs to respect the referee and stop acting like a footballer.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/020 ... complaint/

Kid A wrote:

ovalball wrote:Eddie having a little pop at Alun Wyn Jones - suggesting he needs to respect the referee and stop acting like a footballer.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/020 ... complaint/

He's 100% correct. That's what AWJ does. He did the same thing after the Scarlets scored a last minute winner v Ospreys on boxing day. Tried to prevent the conversion with his mate Biggar.

Saturnine wrote: Nothing wrong with wanting to know a try has been legitimately scored. I'm sure the Turks wouldn't have wanted to win if the try wasn't legal. It's not going to stop a genuine try, just remove all the post match whinging if a poor decision is made.

Kid A wrote:

Saturnine wrote: Nothing wrong with wanting to know a try has been legitimately scored. I'm sure the Turks wouldn't have wanted to win if the try wasn't legal. It's not going to stop a genuine try, just remove all the post match whinging if a poor decision is made.

Agreed. But trying to prevent the match from going ahead is taking it a stage further. Unfortunately, the tv coverage didn't show it as they were showing replays of the try but the rest of the Ospreys team were behind the posts - AWJ and Biggar were infront of the ball, harranguing the referee making TMO signs trying to stop Patchell(?) take the conversion.

I realize Eddie's motives on this. But he is not wrong.

MaccTaff wrote:Eddie’s comments about Patchell aren’t getting any more tasteful after a second examination.

“He always seems to have a lot to say for himself,” Gatland said. “He was responsible with some of the evidence for Richie being banned for a long period.”

Gatland was also quick to criticise the Saints hooker over a confrontation with his Blues counterpart Gareth Williams at Franklins’ Gardens.

The players exchanged a few words as they left for the sin-bin before the end of the Saints’ 23-15 victory. Williams, who was pitched against Hartley when England won 30-17 at Twickenham 12 months ago, was clearly unhappy with Hartley.

Gatland said: “He was not prepared to step outside to the back of the stand with Gareth Williams when he was invited to, so we will see how he fronts up against us.

“England’s line-out imploded a bit against South Africa in the autumn and a couple of weeks ago Hartley went to pieces playing for Northampton at Leicester. Kiwis have been known to crack under pressure and choke. So let’s hope he does on Feb 4.”

ovalball wrote:Eddie having a little pop at Alun Wyn Jones - suggesting he needs to respect the referee and stop acting like a footballer.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/020 ... complaint/

Kid A wrote:

Saturnine wrote: Nothing wrong with wanting to know a try has been legitimately scored. I'm sure the Turks wouldn't have wanted to win if the try wasn't legal. It's not going to stop a genuine try, just remove all the post match whinging if a poor decision is made.

Agreed. But trying to prevent the match from going ahead is taking it a stage further. Unfortunately, the tv coverage didn't show it as they were showing replays of the try but the rest of the Ospreys team were behind the posts - AWJ and Biggar were infront of the ball, harranguing the referee making TMO signs trying to stop Patchell(?) take the conversion.

I realize Eddie's motives on this. But he is not wrong.

Kid A wrote:

Saturnine wrote: Nothing wrong with wanting to know a try has been legitimately scored. I'm sure the Turks wouldn't have wanted to win if the try wasn't legal. It's not going to stop a genuine try, just remove all the post match whinging if a poor decision is made.

Agreed. But trying to prevent the match from going ahead is taking it a stage further. Unfortunately, the tv coverage didn't show it as they were showing replays of the try but the rest of the Ospreys team were behind the posts - AWJ and Biggar were infront of the ball, harranguing the referee making TMO signs trying to stop Patchell(?) take the conversion.

I realize Eddie's motives on this. But he is not wrong.

Sissyfuss wrote:Edward Jones should take a long hard look at himself in the mirror.

If this man is let anywhere near the Lions job I will be absolutely seething. He is a boorish oik he has no understanding of rugger ethos.

GWO2 wrote:

Kid A wrote:

Saturnine wrote: Nothing wrong with wanting to know a try has been legitimately scored. I'm sure the Turks wouldn't have wanted to win if the try wasn't legal. It's not going to stop a genuine try, just remove all the post match whinging if a poor decision is made.

Agreed. But trying to prevent the match from going ahead is taking it a stage further. Unfortunately, the tv coverage didn't show it as they were showing replays of the try but the rest of the Ospreys team were behind the posts - AWJ and Biggar were infront of the ball, harranguing the referee making TMO signs trying to stop Patchell(?) take the conversion.

I realize Eddie's motives on this. But he is not wrong.

Which part of "you can not check if a try is legally awarded or not, once a conversion has been taken"? To me, a team rushing to take a conversion, shows that they might have some doubt about it`s authenticity.

Mick Mannock wrote:

GWO2 wrote:

Kid A wrote:

Saturnine wrote: Nothing wrong with wanting to know a try has been legitimately scored. I'm sure the Turks wouldn't have wanted to win if the try wasn't legal. It's not going to stop a genuine try, just remove all the post match whinging if a poor decision is made.

Agreed. But trying to prevent the match from going ahead is taking it a stage further. Unfortunately, the tv coverage didn't show it as they were showing replays of the try but the rest of the Ospreys team were behind the posts - AWJ and Biggar were infront of the ball, harranguing the referee making TMO signs trying to stop Patchell(?) take the conversion.

I realize Eddie's motives on this. But he is not wrong.

Which part of "you can not check if a try is legally awarded or not, once a conversion has been taken"? To me, a team rushing to take a conversion, shows that they might have some doubt about it`s authenticity.

I don't think he was rushing to take it. AWJ was made to look a total lazy mug by Horne, and that probably upset him. As it should.

Nieghorn wrote:

Sissyfuss wrote:Edward Jones should take a long hard look at himself in the mirror.

If this man is let anywhere near the Lions job I will be absolutely seething. He is a boorish oik he has no understanding of rugger ethos.

Um, Gatland ... ???

Kid A wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

GWO2 wrote:

Kid A wrote:

Saturnine wrote: Nothing wrong with wanting to know a try has been legitimately scored. I'm sure the Turks wouldn't have wanted to win if the try wasn't legal. It's not going to stop a genuine try, just remove all the post match whinging if a poor decision is made.

Agreed. But trying to prevent the match from going ahead is taking it a stage further. Unfortunately, the tv coverage didn't show it as they were showing replays of the try but the rest of the Ospreys team were behind the posts - AWJ and Biggar were infront of the ball, harranguing the referee making TMO signs trying to stop Patchell(?) take the conversion.

I realize Eddie's motives on this. But he is not wrong.

Which part of "you can not check if a try is legally awarded or not, once a conversion has been taken"? To me, a team rushing to take a conversion, shows that they might have some doubt about it`s authenticity.

I don't think he was rushing to take it. AWJ was made to look a total lazy mug by Horne, and that probably upset him. As it should.

AWJ is many things. Lazy isn't one of them.

Nieghorn wrote:

Sissyfuss wrote:Edward Jones should take a long hard look at himself in the mirror.

If this man is let anywhere near the Lions job I will be absolutely seething. He is a boorish oik he has no understanding of rugger ethos.

Um, Gatland ... ???

"Dylan Hartley always seems to have a lot to say for himself, but we will see what he's got next week. Some of what he said was responsible for Richie Rees being banned for a lengthy period, yet he wasn't prepared to step outside with Gareth Williams when he was invited to do so. So we'll see how he fronts up on February 4.

I saw him go to pieces at Leicester a few weeks ago and again on Saturday night. It just shows people can crack under pressure. It's another case of a Kiwi choking on the big occasion.

They don't have a particularly mobile front row. Dan Cole is good off the bench for Leicester after Martin Castrogiovanni has done a job.

It's another case of a Kiwi choking on the big occasion

matta25 wrote:

"Dylan Hartley always seems to have a lot to say for himself, but we will see what he's got next week. Some of what he said was responsible for Richie Rees being banned for a lengthy period, yet he wasn't prepared to step outside with Gareth Williams when he was invited to do so. So we'll see how he fronts up on February 4.

I saw him go to pieces at Leicester a few weeks ago and again on Saturday night. It just shows people can crack under pressure. It's another case of a Kiwi choking on the big occasion.

They don't have a particularly mobile front row. Dan Cole is good off the bench for Leicester after Martin Castrogiovanni has done a job.

Spoilt for choice really

cubby boi wrote:I think that Jones’ choice of sledge material is a little unfortunate given that Gatland might just remind Jones why Joseph didn’t make a lions test side. Also, Remind me what happened when Patchell went up against Joseph a couple of weeks back....?

matta25 wrote:

Nieghorn wrote:

Sissyfuss wrote:Edward Jones should take a long hard look at himself in the mirror.

If this man is let anywhere near the Lions job I will be absolutely seething. He is a boorish oik he has no understanding of rugger ethos.

Um, Gatland ... ???

"Dylan Hartley always seems to have a lot to say for himself, but we will see what he's got next week. Some of what he said was responsible for Richie Rees being banned for a lengthy period, yet he wasn't prepared to step outside with Gareth Williams when he was invited to do so. So we'll see how he fronts up on February 4.

I saw him go to pieces at Leicester a few weeks ago and again on Saturday night. It just shows people can crack under pressure. It's another case of a Kiwi choking on the big occasion.

They don't have a particularly mobile front row. Dan Cole is good off the bench for Leicester after Martin Castrogiovanni has done a job.

Spoilt for choice really

Plastic Sarrie wrote:Liam Williams starting for Sarries

eldanielfire wrote:It's obvious Jones is using his comments to raise the stakes. Everything he is doing is preparing England for the World Cup. He sees Wales are in great form, he knows Gats is coming hard he knows half the teams int he world will motivate themselves by saying "it's f**king England" so he want's the stakes upped like how a world cup match would be. Where as some see him trolling, he just sees opportunity to put his player in a situation close to the world cup high pressure stakes atmosphere.

Mahoney wrote:Looks like it’s going to be played in a complete downpour.

Plastic Sarrie wrote:Liam Williams starting for Sarries

Mahoney wrote:Looks like it’s going to be played in a complete downpour.

cubby boi wrote:

Plastic Sarrie wrote:Liam Williams starting for Sarries

So tell us what the Is for then?

Plastic Sarrie wrote:

cubby boi wrote:

Plastic Sarrie wrote:Liam Williams starting for Sarries

So tell us what the Is for then?

I thought that (a) he was out for the whole 6N and (b) if he was fit he'd be playing for Wales.

cubby boi wrote:

Mahoney wrote:Looks like it’s going to be played in a complete downpour.

Bet you England won’t close the roof as they’re petrified of our running game.

Dai another day wrote:https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... s-14267202

English antics for this match are very unbecoming.