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Winner
Poll ended at Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:09 am
Lions: 15+ 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Lions: 8-15 29%  29%  [ 4 ]
Lions: 1-7 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Draw 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Sharks: 1-7 14%  14%  [ 2 ]
Sharks: 8-15 21%  21%  [ 3 ]
Sharks: 15+ 14%  14%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 14
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:09 am 
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Saturday, 17February @ 17h15 SAST (15h15 GMT)

Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg

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Capacity: 62,567

Weather:

Temp: 26 C
Rain: 30% (Isolated thunder showers)
Wind 19 kmh NW

Betting odds:
Lions (7/19) 1.37
Sharks (13/5) 3.6

Lions:
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Log position: N/A
Wins: N/A
Finish 2017: Runners up

Lions: 15. Andries Coetzee, 14. Sylvian Mahuza, 13. Lionel Mapoe, 12. Harold Vorster, 11. Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10. Elton Jantjies, 9. Ross Cronjé, 8. Warren Whiteley ©, 7. Cyle Brink, 6. Kwagga Smith, 5. Franco Mostert, 4. Andries Ferreira, 3. Ruan Dreyer, 2. Malcolm Marx, 1. Jacques van Rooyen.
Replacements: 16. Robbie Coetzee, 17. Dylan Smith, 18. Jacobie Adriaanse, 19. Marvin Orie, 20 Marnus Schoeman, 21. Hacjivah Dayimani, 22. Howard Mnisi, 23. Rohan Janse van Rensburg.

Sharks:

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Log position: N/A
Wins: N/A
Finish 2017: Play-offs

Sharks: 15 Lwazi Mvovo, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makezole Mapimpi, 10 Robert du Preez, 9 Cameron Wright, 8 Keegan Daniel, 7 Jacques Vermeulen, 6 Philip van der Walt, 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Ruan Botha (capt), 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Juan Schoeman.
Reserves: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Beast Mtawarira, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Hyron Andrews, 20 Daniel du Preez, 21 Michael Claassens, 22 Curwin Bosch, 23 Kobus van Wyk

Officials:
Ref: Glen Jackson (NZ)
ARs: AJ Jacobs (SA) and Cwengile Jadezweni (SA)
TMO: Marius Jonker (SA)

History:

Played: 18
Lions: 7
Sharks: 10
Draw: 1

In Johannesburg:

Played: 10
Lions: 5
Sharks: 4
Draw: 1

Last matches:
2017: Lions 23-21 Johannesburg
2017: Lions 27-10 Durban
2017: Lions 34-29 Johannesburg
2016: Lions 37-10 Johannesburg
2016: Lions 24-9 Durban
2015: Lions 23-21 Johannesburg


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Sharks (possible according to Sharksworld): 15 Lwazi Mvovo, 14 Kobus van Wyk, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Marius Louw, 11 Makezole Mapimpi, 10 Robert du Preez, 9 Cameron Wright, 8 Keegan Daniel, 7 Jacques Vermeulen, 6 Philip van der Walt, 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Ruan Botha(capt), 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Tyler Paul, 20 Daniel du Preez, 21 Michael Claassens, 22 Curwin Bosch, 23 Sbu Nkosi

Lions (possible): 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Sylvian Mahuza, 13 Harold Vorster, 12 Rohan Janse van Rensburg, 11 Lionel Mapoe, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Ross Cronje, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Cyle Brink, 6 Kwagga Smith, 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Lourens Erasmus, 3 Ruan Dreyer, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Dylan Smith
16 Robbie Coetzee, 17 Corne Fourie, 18 Jacques van Rooyen, 19 Marvin Orie, 20 Hacjivah Dayimani, 21 Marco Jansen van Vuren, 22 Shaun Reynolds, 23 Howard Mnisi


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Seems RdP Snr is under pressure to change the way the Sharks played last year and this could lead to them leaking more tries this year

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Du Preez might have irritated his bosses a little with his claim before last year’s Currie Cup decider that too much emphasis was being placed in South Africa on aping the more attacking style of the successful New Zealand teams. Du Preez said the only rugby he wanted his team to play was winning rugby and it didn’t matter how ugly it might be. That didn't really fit in with the publicised promise to fans to play crowd-pleasing rugby.

Du Preez might have irritated his bosses a little with his claim before last year’s Currie Cup decider that too much emphasis was being placed in South Africa on aping the more attacking style of the successful New Zealand teams. Du Preez said the only rugby he wanted his team to play was winning rugby and it didn’t matter how ugly it might be. That didn't really fit in with the publicised promise to fans to play crowd-pleasing rugby.

Du Preez's words were of course uttered after a league phase of the season where the Sharks had topped the log thanks to the hard work of a pack that afforded them the dominance they required in order to successfully execute a percentage game plan. But it all went pear-shaped when the pack was fronted and dominated by WP in the final. It was clear there was no Plan B for the Sharks and no ability to attack their opponents with scraps of possession. WP coach John Dobson confirmed after that game that once his team got ahead they were content to just kick onto the Sharks as they knew the Durbanites didn't have the attacking wherewithal to hurt them.

The Currie Cup these days should be all about learning from mistakes and building towards Super Rugby, so judging from what Du Preez, who now has the attack-minded Dick Muir helping him as a backline/attack consultant, has been doing in the pre-season, last year’s disappointing end was not in vain.

“We realised after the Currie Cup final that we had to change the way we are playing and we can’t just talk about attracting fans by playing entertaining rugby, we have to go out and actually do it,” said Du Preez in an early season interview with the Durban media.

https://www.supersport.com/rugby/super-rugby/news/180206/Sharks_have_made_the_adjustment


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:27 am 
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Ja. When rugby becomes entertainment, first ...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:40 am 
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Ja. When rugby becomes entertainment, first ...

Is that a quote from HM or AC? ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:56 pm 
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Sharks injuries:
Louis Schreuder (hamstring) - 4 to 6 weeks
Jeremy Ward (hand fracture) - approx 8 weeks
Coenie Oosthuizen (knee) - season
Jean-Luc du Preez (ankle) - end March

Back in the mix: Daniel du Preez, Akker van der Merwe, Michael Claassens and Jean Droste will be training with the team from next week.

Lions injuries:
Courtnall Skosan (ACL) - approx 10 weeks
Ruan Combrinck (shoulder) - mid April
Jaco Kriel (shoulder) - mid March
Andries Ferreira (ankle) - 2 to 3 weeks


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:49 am 
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Betting:
Lions (7/19) 1.37
Sharks (13/5) 3.6
Handicap: Lions -8


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Sharks in for a hiding


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:53 am 
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Sharks in for a hiding

Come now Sards..............you have been telling everyone that the Lions will fails without Ackerman as coach.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:55 am 
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Jensrsa wrote:
Betting:
Lions (7/19) 1.37
Sharks (13/5) 3.6


I think these odds are way off the mark. Good money to be made with a Sharks win, which is quite possible as the match will be close


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:01 am 
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Chilli wrote:
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Sharks in for a hiding

Come now Sards..............you have been telling everyone that the Lions will fails without Ackerman as coach.


Puhlease...There are so many springboks and so much talent in the Lions that we dont have a chance.
I see Dick is talking up Curwin telling everyone that he is the most incredible talent he has seen. We all know that he is a far way odd the quality of Jantjies . Even Du Preez is a shadow of Jantjies.

Thats backline of the Lions is phenominal whereas the Sharks are filled with crashball plonkers.
The forwards are a no contest. How can you even compare them.

I suppose its better to take the hiding early on and progress from there.


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Sards wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Sharks in for a hiding

Come now Sards..............you have been telling everyone that the Lions will fails without Ackerman as coach.


Puhlease...There are so many springboks and so much talent in the Lions that we dont have a chance.
I see Dick is talking up Curwin telling everyone that he is the most incredible talent he has seen. We all know that he is a far way odd the quality of Jantjies . Even Du Preez is a shadow of Jantjies.

Thats backline of the Lions is phenominal whereas the Sharks are filled with crashball plonkers.
The forwards are a no contest. How can you even compare them.

I suppose its better to take the hiding early on and progress from there.


Good to see you being realistic for a change Sards :)


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Sards wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Sharks in for a hiding

Come now Sards..............you have been telling everyone that the Lions will fails without Ackerman as coach.


Puhlease...There are so many springboks and so much talent in the Lions that we dont have a chance.
I see Dick is talking up Curwin telling everyone that he is the most incredible talent he has seen. We all know that he is a far way odd the quality of Jantjies . Even Du Preez is a shadow of Jantjies.

Thats backline of the Lions is phenominal whereas the Sharks are filled with crashball plonkers.
The forwards are a no contest. How can you even compare them.

I suppose its better to take the hiding early on and progress from there.

To be fair Sards it's only AE who is a complete crash ball plonker. The rest of the backline are pretty talented.


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Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Sharks in for a hiding

Come now Sards..............you have been telling everyone that the Lions will fails without Ackerman as coach.


Puhlease...There are so many springboks and so much talent in the Lions that we dont have a chance.
I see Dick is talking up Curwin telling everyone that he is the most incredible talent he has seen. We all know that he is a far way odd the quality of Jantjies . Even Du Preez is a shadow of Jantjies.

Thats backline of the Lions is phenominal whereas the Sharks are filled with crashball plonkers.
The forwards are a no contest. How can you even compare them.

I suppose its better to take the hiding early on and progress from there.

To be fair Sards it's only EO who is a complete crash ball plonker. The rest of the backline are pretty talented.

EO?


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handyman wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Sharks in for a hiding

Come now Sards..............you have been telling everyone that the Lions will fails without Ackerman as coach.


Puhlease...There are so many springboks and so much talent in the Lions that we dont have a chance.
I see Dick is talking up Curwin telling everyone that he is the most incredible talent he has seen. We all know that he is a far way odd the quality of Jantjies . Even Du Preez is a shadow of Jantjies.

Thats backline of the Lions is phenominal whereas the Sharks are filled with crashball plonkers.
The forwards are a no contest. How can you even compare them.

I suppose its better to take the hiding early on and progress from there.

To be fair Sards it's only EO who is a complete crash ball plonker. The rest of the backline are pretty talented.

EO?

AE


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Chilli wrote:
handyman wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Come now Sards..............you have been telling everyone that the Lions will fails without Ackerman as coach.


Puhlease...There are so many springboks and so much talent in the Lions that we dont have a chance.
I see Dick is talking up Curwin telling everyone that he is the most incredible talent he has seen. We all know that he is a far way odd the quality of Jantjies . Even Du Preez is a shadow of Jantjies.

Thats backline of the Lions is phenominal whereas the Sharks are filled with crashball plonkers.
The forwards are a no contest. How can you even compare them.

I suppose its better to take the hiding early on and progress from there.

To be fair Sards it's only EO who is a complete crash ball plonker. The rest of the backline are pretty talented.

EO?

AE


What happened to RJVR. He is the Lions crashball exponent


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Sards wrote:
What happened to RJVR. He is the Lions crashball exponent


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And he's back!


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Jensrsa wrote:
Sards wrote:
What happened to RJVR. He is the Lions crashball exponent


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And he's back!



:thumbup:

Pity he is not near the quality of DDA and couldn't make the bok side


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Sards wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Sards wrote:
What happened to RJVR. He is the Lions crashball exponent


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And he's back!



:thumbup:

Pity he is not near the quality of DDA and couldn't make the bok side


True


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So it's finally here. The much anticipated game of the tournament. With the Sharks taking on the much vaunted and incredibly talented Lions


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So it's finally here. The much anticipated game of the tournament. With the Sharks taking on the much vaunted and incredibly talented Lions

Always good to remain humble Sards. :thumbup:


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POSTED ON 7TH FEBRUARY 2018
INJURY UPDATE
The Cell C Sharks Team Doctor has issued an injury report ahead of the start of the Vodacom Super Rugby tournament next week.

Currently, there is just one long term injury setback, while the rest of the players who have been spending time under the eyes of the medical staff are expected to be eased back into action over the coming weeks.

2017 Cell C Sharks player of the Year, Coenie Oosthuizen will sadly not be available for much of the Vodacom Super Rugby season. He returned home from the Springbok end of year tour in November last year after sustaining a knee injury against Ireland.

The ACL rupture is responding well to treatment and his rehabilitation is going very well. His expected return to play is 9 months.

His is the only severe, long term injury that the Cell C Sharks are treating, although there are a number of players who have had minor surgeries and other injuries that will keep them out of action for a few more weeks.

Loose-forward Jean-Luc du Preez underwent ankle surgery in November and is on track for a return to action in March.

Jeremy Ward, who was selected to play in both warm-up matches – against the Bulls and then Racing 22 this past weekend in Hong Kong – sadly suffered a hand fracture which has necessitated surgical fixation. The centre will be out for around eight weeks.

Scrumhalf Louis Schreuder is nursing a hamstring injury and his return is estimated at between four and six weeks.


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Sharks (possible): 15 Lwazi Mvovo, 14 Kobus van Wyk, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Marius Louw, 11 Makezole Mapimpi, 10 Roert du Preez, 9 Cameron Wright, 8 Keegan Daniel, 7 Jacques Vermeulen, 6 Philip van der Walt, 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Ruan Botha(capt), 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Tyler Paul, 20 Daniel du Preez, 21 Michael Claassens, 22 Curwin Bosch, 23 Sbu Nkosi


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They really should announce the teams today. We've waited long enough :x

First match of the season is never a classic, but hopefully two warm up games are enough to get the Sharks sharp.

Did the Lions play any big warm up games? I don't recall reading about them.


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They really should announce the teams today. We've waited long enough :x

First match of the season is never a classic, but hopefully two warm up games are enough to get the Sharks sharp.

Did the Lions play any big warm up games? I don't recall reading about them.


:lol:

Players will be a bit rusty and the least rusty team should win.

Lions fringe players played the Bulls fringe players in the only "official" pre-season game for them although the Lions A side took on the rest in a practice match last week. The players coming back from Japan and Europe have been rested but should be fairly match fit too having played matches till end January


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Sickening arrogance from the Lions, simply sickening. They clearly think they're going to waltz their way to another final.


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No Jean-Luc du Preez. :thumbdown:

Lions by plenty.


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No Jean-Luc du Preez. :thumbdown:

Lions by plenty.

Not according to the poll above.................. :shock:


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Chilli wrote:
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No Jean-Luc du Preez. :thumbdown:

Lions by plenty.

Not according to the poll above.................. :shock:

We are clearly being trolled. It's obvious.


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Beaver_Shark wrote:
Chilli wrote:
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No Jean-Luc du Preez. :thumbdown:

Lions by plenty.

Not according to the poll above.................. :shock:

We are clearly being trolled. It's obvious.

Only 3 Lions supporters on the board. The rest are supporting their players overseas.


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Chilli wrote:
Sharks (possible): 15 Lwazi Mvovo, 14 Kobus van Wyk, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Marius Louw, 11 Makezole Mapimpi, 10 Roert du Preez, 9 Cameron Wright, 8 Keegan Daniel, 7 Jacques Vermeulen, 6 Philip van der Walt, 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Ruan Botha(capt), 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Tyler Paul, 20 Daniel du Preez, 21 Michael Claassens, 22 Curwin Bosch, 23 Sbu Nkosi

Nkosi on the bench :thumbdown:


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Nkosi on the bench :thumbdown:


Why? Both van Wyk and Mapimpi have proved themselves, Nkosi still has to


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Nkosi on the bench :thumbdown:


Why? Both van Wyk and Mapimpi have proved themselves, Nkosi still has to

I'd have Nkosi ahead of van Wyk. He also clearly has anger issues.


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Sigh....how did we end up attracting such talent........Is it our scouting staff or is it just the lure of the brand. Theres an interesting show on DSTV catchup regarding the Sharks family


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Sigh....how did we end up attracting such talent........and never manage to win anything

Who knows sard.


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Sigh....how did we end up attracting such talent........Is it our scouting staff or is it just the lure of the brand. Theres an interesting show on DSTV catchup regarding the Sharks family

That's more like it :smug:


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Jensrsa wrote:
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Nkosi on the bench :thumbdown:


Why? Both van Wyk and Mapimpi have proved themselves, Nkosi still has to

Van Wyk's defence is awful.


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Chilli wrote:
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Sigh....how did we end up attracting such talent........Is it our scouting staff or is it just the lure of the brand. Theres an interesting show on DSTV catchup regarding the Sharks family

That's more like it :smug:

First up matches are hit and miss....its only when you get to mid season can you start getting excited.
This will be a nice warmup for the Sharks tour.


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Van Wyk's defence is awful.


Bosch will cover any missed tackles van Wyk lets through.

The complete team 8)


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