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DraadkarD wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:So its definitely going to be tomorrow then?

Definitely maybe.

Just from a post of mine that got hidden at the change of pages:

Bullettyme wrote:Will Ramaphosa taking the mantle as President in the next couple of days bring up constitutional issues further down the line? Like when he wants to run for his second full term?

Any ideas? Or has this been covered.

I don't think Ramaposa will take over as president. Parliament has to vote in a new president, and I think the ANC will nominate a woman as a candidate to serve as president of the republic until 2019 elections. I think if Ramaposa takes over right away, he will not be able to stand for the 2023 election.

Have you got a new strain in? Lesotho hybrid or something?

sorCrer wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:So its definitely going to be tomorrow then?

Definitely maybe.

Just from a post of mine that got hidden at the change of pages:

Bullettyme wrote:Will Ramaphosa taking the mantle as President in the next couple of days bring up constitutional issues further down the line? Like when he wants to run for his second full term?

Any ideas? Or has this been covered.

I don't think Ramaposa will take over as president. Parliament has to vote in a new president, and I think the ANC will nominate a woman as a candidate to serve as president of the republic until 2019 elections. I think if Ramaposa takes over right away, he will not be able to stand for the 2023 election.

Have you got a new strain in? Lesotho hybrid or something?

Jy het my verloor, my vriend?

DraadkarD wrote:

sorCrer wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:So its definitely going to be tomorrow then?

Definitely maybe.

Just from a post of mine that got hidden at the change of pages:

Bullettyme wrote:Will Ramaphosa taking the mantle as President in the next couple of days bring up constitutional issues further down the line? Like when he wants to run for his second full term?

Any ideas? Or has this been covered.

I don't think Ramaposa will take over as president. Parliament has to vote in a new president, and I think the ANC will nominate a woman as a candidate to serve as president of the republic until 2019 elections. I think if Ramaposa takes over right away, he will not be able to stand for the 2023 election.

Have you got a new strain in? Lesotho hybrid or something?

Jy het my verloor, my vriend?

Ramaposa will be president. WOF.

DraadkarD wrote:

sorCrer wrote:
Have you got a new strain in? Lesotho hybrid or something?

Jy het my verloor, my vriend?

Dagga.

sorCrer wrote:
Ramaposa will be president. WOF.

That is not set in stone, haasdaas.

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:

sorCrer wrote:
Have you got a new strain in? Lesotho hybrid or something?

Jy het my verloor, my vriend?

Dagga.

Dis bietjie vroeg my Oom. Die boing is nog nie oor nie.

DraadkarD wrote:

sorCrer wrote:
Ramaposa will be president. WOF.

That is not set in stone, haasdaas.

It very much is set in stone. You can't have the president of the ANC and another president from the structure. Jy is fokken gerook.

All professinal political pundits that I have heard seem to think Cyril will be appointed as caretaker pres, before being elected as PORSA.

sorCrer wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:

sorCrer wrote:
Ramaposa will be president. WOF.

That is not set in stone, haasdaas.

It very much is set in stone. You can't have the president of the ANC and another president from the structure. Jy is fokken gerook.

Have you heard of Kgalema Motlanthe?

There will have an interim president until 2019 elections. Either Sisulu or Mbete. Parliament can elect any of its members to be the president of South Africa.

Waar bly jy? Sodat ek bietjie van my lesotho shit kan stuur, dan as jy dit rook kan jy ook bietjie bykom.

So looks like he will not be going today?

Zuma presidency says no media briefing, fake news.

No communication issued

The media is advised that no official communication has been issued by the Presidency on a media briefing today by President Jacob Zuma as reported by media houses. http://bit.ly/2nY2stM

9:13 AM - Feb 14, 2018

Yet : A copy of the email giving notice of the briefing is also displayed. More Zuma games ...
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News ... d-20180214

DraadkarD wrote:So looks like he will not be going today?

Jacob has probably put a bet on, saying he will be there the weekend, at least.

Waiting for news from Russia/Rosatom, no doubt....

sorCrer wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:

sorCrer wrote:
Ramaposa will be president. WOF.

That is not set in stone, haasdaas.

It very much is set in stone. You can't have the president of the ANC and another president from the structure. Jy is fokken gerook.

He's done it before. At least until elections.

Why not use Kgame again ?

Wilson's Toffee wrote:Why not use Kgame again ?

I think they will opt for a Woman president.

It will be CR.

“No person may hold office as President for more than two terms‚ but when a person is elected to fill a vacancy in the office of President‚ the period between that election and the next election of a President is not regarded as a term.”

DraadkarD wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:So its definitely going to be tomorrow then?

Definitely maybe.

Just from a post of mine that got hidden at the change of pages:

Bullettyme wrote:Will Ramaphosa taking the mantle as President in the next couple of days bring up constitutional issues further down the line? Like when he wants to run for his second full term?

Any ideas? Or has this been covered.

I don't think Ramaposa will take over as president. Parliament has to vote in a new president, and I think the ANC will nominate a woman as a candidate to serve as president of the republic until 2019 elections. I think if Ramaposa takes over right away, he will not be able to stand for the 2023 election.

I was thinking this, it would be the same situation as Kgaleme Motlanthe and Ramaphosa will put a loyalist in there to see out the year. I know the term is renewable only once, so I guess they previously did this to dodge any constitutional issues. Unless they've closed that up but I had a look at that section of the constitution and my head hurt.

The wife is in a good mood. Hopefully today it will be official and CR can get in.

Bullettyme wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:So its definitely going to be tomorrow then?

Definitely maybe.

Just from a post of mine that got hidden at the change of pages:

Bullettyme wrote:Will Ramaphosa taking the mantle as President in the next couple of days bring up constitutional issues further down the line? Like when he wants to run for his second full term?

Any ideas? Or has this been covered.

I don't think Ramaposa will take over as president. Parliament has to vote in a new president, and I think the ANC will nominate a woman as a candidate to serve as president of the republic until 2019 elections. I think if Ramaposa takes over right away, he will not be able to stand for the 2023 election.

I was thinking this, it would be the same situation as Kgaleme Motlanthe and Ramaphosa will put a loyalist in there to see out the year. I know the term is renewable only once, so I guess they previously did this to dodge any constitutional issues. Unless they've closed that up but I had a look at that section of the constitution and my head hurt.

The other option is to let the Speaker (Baleka Mbete) fulfil the duty as is her duty until a president is elected (which can only happen after the next elections, too).
She is a declared CR loyalist, is a woman and has her own presidential aspirations.

rabble wrote:It will be CR.

“No person may hold office as President for more than two terms‚ but when a person is elected to fill a vacancy in the office of President‚ the period between that election and the next election of a President is not regarded as a term.”

Cool, did not know that. Thanks

Bullettyme wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:

DraadkarD wrote:So its definitely going to be tomorrow then?

Definitely maybe.

Just from a post of mine that got hidden at the change of pages:

Bullettyme wrote:Will Ramaphosa taking the mantle as President in the next couple of days bring up constitutional issues further down the line? Like when he wants to run for his second full term?

Any ideas? Or has this been covered.

I don't think Ramaposa will take over as president. Parliament has to vote in a new president, and I think the ANC will nominate a woman as a candidate to serve as president of the republic until 2019 elections. I think if Ramaposa takes over right away, he will not be able to stand for the 2023 election.

I was thinking this, it would be the same situation as Kgaleme Motlanthe and Ramaphosa will put a loyalist in there to see out the year. I know the term is renewable only once, so I guess they previously did this to dodge any constitutional issues. Unless they've closed that up but I had a look at that section of the constitution and my head hurt.

Check Rabble's post above

rabble wrote:It will be CR.

“No person may hold office as President for more than two terms‚ but when a person is elected to fill a vacancy in the office of President‚ the period between that election and the next election of a President is not regarded as a term.”

That's what I was unclear on.

Where's that from btw? Constitution?

This is one helluva day for the Zumas.

Big daddy Jay-Zee is under enormous pressure to resign as prez of Mzanzi.

His beloved son is arrested, alongside 2 of 3 brothers who made the Zumas and themselves stinking rich.


When Saffas do something special for Valentine's Day, they really do go the extra mile

Bullettyme wrote:

rabble wrote:It will be CR.

“No person may hold office as President for more than two terms‚ but when a person is elected to fill a vacancy in the office of President‚ the period between that election and the next election of a President is not regarded as a term.”

That's what I was unclear on.

Where's that from btw? Constitution?

Yes

http://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/c ... chp05.html

Section 88 (2)

Thank you, Rabble. Mothlante was appointed the same way. Interim president does not count for term of tenure.

rabble wrote:

Bullettyme wrote:

rabble wrote:It will be CR.

“No person may hold office as President for more than two terms‚ but when a person is elected to fill a vacancy in the office of President‚ the period between that election and the next election of a President is not regarded as a term.”

That's what I was unclear on.

Where's that from btw? Constitution?

Yes

http://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/c ... chp05.html

Section 88 (2)

nice one, thanks.

My fok!

He's still hanging on. Looks like he will be fired by parliament tomorrow.

This is the way I think he should leave. Be kicked out. He knows he is in groot kak!

I think it's time this gentleman stepped in

Did someone say non-coup?

DraadkarD wrote: My fok!

He's still hanging on. Looks like he will be fired by parliament tomorrow.

This is the way I think he should leave. Be kicked out. He knows he is in groot kak!

ANC admitting they will have to join in on the EFF's motion of no confidence

Now if the opposition parties really want to throw a spanner in the works, they could vote against it. That might put some extra pressure on the ANC

troglodiet wrote:Now if the opposition parties really want to throw a spanner in the works, they could vote against it. That might put some extra pressure on the ANC

I would literally laugh out loud. lol.

DraadkarD wrote: My fok!

He's still hanging on. Looks like he will be fired by parliament tomorrow.

This is the way I think he should leave. Be kicked out. He knows he is in groot kak!

Told ya. He will cling on till the last ... and then try to make new moves.

Zuma is a rubbermannetjie ...

troglodiet wrote:

ANC admitting they will have to join in on the EFF's motion of no confidence

Now if the opposition parties really want to throw a spanner in the works, they could vote against it. That might put some extra pressure on the ANC

You have the mind of a parliamentarian .....

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

DraadkarD wrote: My fok!

He's still hanging on. Looks like he will be fired by parliament tomorrow.

This is the way I think he should leave. Be kicked out. He knows he is in groot kak!

Told ya. He will cling on till the last ... and then try to make new moves.

Zuma is a rubbermannetjie ...

"a man that lives in a rondawel can not be backed into a corner"

dis klaar met Kees

DraadkarD wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

DraadkarD wrote: My fok!

He's still hanging on. Looks like he will be fired by parliament tomorrow.

This is the way I think he should leave. Be kicked out. He knows he is in groot kak!

Told ya. He will cling on till the last ... and then try to make new moves.

Zuma is a rubbermannetjie ...

"a man that lives in a rondawel can not be backed into a corner"

Netso !!

Monk Zombie wrote:dis klaar met Kees

Moer toe met Butternutkop.

But if, just IF a bunch of ANC MPs decide to vote confidence in the guy, and he survives the motion ...

Even if the motion is carried, JZ must still resign.

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

troglodiet wrote:

ANC admitting they will have to join in on the EFF's motion of no confidence

Now if the opposition parties really want to throw a spanner in the works, they could vote against it. That might put some extra pressure on the ANC

You have the mind of a parliamentarian .....

Of all the insults you can possibly throw at me, that is one I will never forgive you for.

You may call me the c-word, d-word, any derivative of the f-word...... really anything will be like water off a duck's back.

But implying I have the mind of a politician? Unforgivable.

Told you before. Politician, lawyer or dominee. Do not EVER equate me to any one of them.

On to ignore you go.

troglodiet wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

troglodiet wrote:

ANC admitting they will have to join in on the EFF's motion of no confidence

Now if the opposition parties really want to throw a spanner in the works, they could vote against it. That might put some extra pressure on the ANC

You have the mind of a parliamentarian .....

Of all the insults you can possibly throw at me, that is one I will never forgive you for.

You may call me the c-word, d-word, any derivative of the f-word...... really anything will be like water off a duck's back.

But implying I have the mind of a politician? Unforgivable.

Told you before. Politician, lawyer or dominee. Do not EVER equate me to any one of them.

On to ignore you go.

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

Monk Zombie wrote:dis klaar met Kees

Moer toe met Butternutkop.

But if, just IF a bunch of ANC MPs decide to vote confidence in the guy, and he survives the motion ...

Even if the motion is carried, JZ must still resign.

You're assuming the man has a shred of decency or honour. Not that I disagree.

I think a motion of no confidence could be a better outcome for the country.
A m.o.n.c. passed means the whole cabinet needs to resign. (102 (2))
This will conveniently get of all the dead wood without CR needing to tread on any toes.