Re: #Zexit Countdown
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:11 pm
Zuma recalled by ANC.
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Chilli wrote:Zuma recalled by ANC.
Yep. His party has simply said "give up the presidency".troglodiet wrote:Chilli wrote:Zuma recalled by ANC.
It's still up to JZ to resign though isn't it?
That's how I understand it.
handyman wrote:Where is the dancing man emoji?
That'll do nicely.Sandstorm wrote:handyman wrote:Where is the dancing man emoji?
If they vote him out (in Parliament) he will have the moral authority to walk out of teh ANC and start a new party. He will rip the ANC in two, and partes like the EFF and DA will also be ripped, in turn ..Beaver_Shark wrote:Yep. His party has simply said "give up the presidency".troglodiet wrote:Chilli wrote:Zuma recalled by ANC.
It's still up to JZ to resign though isn't it?
That's how I understand it.
Now he can either step down voluntarily by resigning, or parliament can vote him out. The latter would be disastrous though for the ANC because it will mean they have to vote with the opposition. It will in fact be quite a big victory for the opposition parties.
So incredibly, Zuma still has an ace up his leave. (Not that Ace)
Every day you impress me more, I did not believe I would ever read such a drivel of shit post on here, but you have proven me wrong againWilson's Toffee wrote:If they vote him out (in Parliament) he will have the moral authority to walk out of teh ANC and start a new party. He will rip the ANC in two, and partes like the EFF and DA will also be ripped, in turn ..Beaver_Shark wrote:Yep. His party has simply said "give up the presidency".troglodiet wrote:Chilli wrote:Zuma recalled by ANC.
It's still up to JZ to resign though isn't it?
That's how I understand it.
Now he can either step down voluntarily by resigning, or parliament can vote him out. The latter would be disastrous though for the ANC because it will mean they have to vote with the opposition. It will in fact be quite a big victory for the opposition parties.
So incredibly, Zuma still has an ace up his leave. (Not that Ace)
Expect a large contingent of current ANC MPs to follow if that happens (Ace too).
Maybe so many will noty vote against him, or even for him, that the motion will not pass. And the ANC will be ripped, Parliament will be ripped, and they will elect Nkosasana D-Z as Pres. The JZ will not have to move, at all ...
This fight is not over yet. Ols shit is pressing on - I told ya so !!!
Chilli wrote:All a bit soft cock to be honest.
Yup. Yankee and I discussing his manlove DDA or JDVChilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
Chilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
I at least look forward to the 2 of you kids discussing that. The BN / WT stuff is just pathetic.Sards wrote:Yup. Yankee and I discussing his manlove DDA or JDVChilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
Why change a habit of the last 2 decades now?Wilson's Toffee wrote:Chilli wrote:All a bit soft cock to be honest.
Ja.
The ANC playing with the country's future, because of their own internal indiscipline.
Sandstorm wrote:Why change a habit of the last 2 decades now?Wilson's Toffee wrote:Chilli wrote:All a bit soft cock to be honest.
Ja.
The ANC playing with the country's future, because of their own internal indiscipline.
It's never much of a discussion tbf becauseChilli wrote:I at least look forward to the 2 of you kids discussing that. The BN / WT stuff is just pathetic.Sards wrote:Yup. Yankee and I discussing his manlove DDA or JDVChilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
Oom what are you smoking in Limpopo? Nyaope?Wilson's Toffee wrote:If they vote him out (in Parliament) he will have the moral authority to walk out of teh ANC and start a new party. He will rip the ANC in two, and partes like the EFF and DA will also be ripped, in turn ..Beaver_Shark wrote:Yep. His party has simply said "give up the presidency".troglodiet wrote:Chilli wrote:Zuma recalled by ANC.
It's still up to JZ to resign though isn't it?
That's how I understand it.
Now he can either step down voluntarily by resigning, or parliament can vote him out. The latter would be disastrous though for the ANC because it will mean they have to vote with the opposition. It will in fact be quite a big victory for the opposition parties.
So incredibly, Zuma still has an ace up his leave. (Not that Ace)
Expect a large contingent of current ANC MPs to follow if that happens (Ace too).
Maybe so many will not vote against him, or even for him, that the motion will not pass. And the ANC will be ripped, Parliament will be ripped, and they will elect Nkosasana D-Z as Pres. The JZ will not have to move, at all ...
This fight is not over yet. Ols shit is pressing on - I told ya so !!!
DraadkarD wrote:
Oom what are you smoking in Limpopo? Nyaope?
In my head.......saffer13 wrote:It's never much of a discussion tbf becauseChilli wrote:I at least look forward to the 2 of you kids discussing that. The BN / WT stuff is just pathetic.Sards wrote:Yup. Yankee and I discussing his manlove DDA or JDVChilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
1) It doesn't happen
2) I'm in Sards' head
3) it doesn't happen
4) and when is the last time i "rated" DDA again? 2015/16?
Poor trolling as usual sards. Up your game, you're like a flailing Zuma.
He is going to see his day in court. He has zero support left. He is gooorne. BTW Oom, you have never been right about anything expect being right-wing.Wilson's Toffee wrote:DraadkarD wrote:
Oom what are you smoking in Limpopo? Nyaope?
I was right so far - and believe me, Zuma will have these, and a million other schemes in his head.
He feels fokkol for the ANC or South Africa or even a lot of his family, nothing for his friends. Survival, domination, getting his own way and ridicule of others are his game.
A dangerous fokken customer....
DraadkarD wrote:He is going to see his day in court. He has zero support left. He is gooorne. BTW Oom, you have never been right about anything expect being right-wing.Wilson's Toffee wrote:DraadkarD wrote:
Oom what are you smoking in Limpopo? Nyaope?
I was right so far - and believe me, Zuma will have these, and a million other schemes in his head.
He feels fokkol for the ANC or South Africa or even a lot of his family, nothing for his friends. Survival, domination, getting his own way and ridicule of others are his game.
A dangerous fokken customer....
About the wonders of nyaope?Wilson's Toffee wrote: I was also right, years ago, when I left teh Free State. . .
DraadkarD wrote:About the wonders of nyaope?Wilson's Toffee wrote: I was also right, years ago, when I left teh Free State. . .
"The fact is, Zuma remains President, and remains in power, and as long as this is the case, our country suffers," said Maimane. "The DA notes the decision by the ANC’s NEC to recall Zuma. This recall is an internal ANC resolution, and nothing more."
"[The recall] has no effect on Zuma’s current status as President of the Republic, and can be simply ignored by Zuma. Unless he tenders his resignation, this recall is not worth the paper it is printed on."
Maimane said the only way to remove Zuma as President is for Parliament to do so through a motion of no confidence. "It is Parliament that elects and removes a president, not the ANC. Therefore, the EFF’s motion of no confidence, provisionally scheduled for February 22, must be treated as a priority and brought forward to within this week in order for Parliament to remove Zuma.
"Following that," said Maimane, "the National Assembly must dissolve Parliament in terms of Section 50 of the Constitution. Anyone who wants to be the next president of this country must have the mandate of the people, and this can only be established through an early election. The people must elect the new South African President, not a few connected cadres within the ANC."
Nyaope is smoked, WT. You're thinking of heroin.Wilson's Toffee wrote:DraadkarD wrote:About the wonders of nyaope?Wilson's Toffee wrote: I was also right, years ago, when I left teh Free State. . .
Nyaope is a filthy thing about you might well joke, I won't.
Youngsters here inject it ... all over, in their arms, veins, feet, even below the nails ....
Filthy stuff, they die.
sorCrer wrote:Nyaope is smoked, WT. You're thinking of heroin.Wilson's Toffee wrote:DraadkarD wrote:About the wonders of nyaope?Wilson's Toffee wrote: I was also right, years ago, when I left teh Free State. . .
Nyaope is a filthy thing about you might well joke, I won't.
Youngsters here inject it ... all over, in their arms, veins, feet, even below the nails ....
Filthy stuff, they die.
DraadkarD wrote:
He is going to see his day in court. He has zero support left. He is gooorne.
I decided to put all Makro salesmen on ignore. WT is good value when he puts his mind to it...Chilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
troglodiet wrote:DraadkarD wrote:
He is going to see his day in court. He has zero support left. He is gooorne.
If he had zero support, it wouldn't have taken the NEC 13 hours to decide to recall him. Listen to the press interview: Ace actually said there were members who didn't want him out. Remember is not only JZ - there's a whole faction within the ANC that is in his camp. And he still has a massive supporter base under the rural voters, especially in KZN.
Read the thread, especially Beaver's post. He is not gone yet; he needs to resign. Which he can just refuse to do (and already has a couple of times over this last week).
I just watched a very interesting analysis on News24. The political commentator said that even if a motion of no confidence in him is passed through parliament, he needs to resign, I.e such a motion will not automatically remove him either. It will however create a constitutional nightmare..... and we all know how faithful he is towards the constitution.
Of course he might just resign tomorrow and that's the end. But there are still ways it could go wrong.
He will have his day in Court tough, I agree. If the PP goes ahead with the charges.
handyman wrote:I decided to put all Makro salesmen on ignore. WT is good value when he puts his mind to it...Chilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
I feel it's the same thing with Trump. He's not really a member of his party as far as their beliefs, but it's a lot easier to hijack and take control of it, and once that's complete, that apparatus is all required to support you. People that don't like you are then emotionally conflicted on leaving the party because they'd be joining the opposition, which feeds into the narrative New Supreme Leader wants to spread on those kinds of people. It's worse in South Africa because if you control the ANC, you control the country. The opposition are all fractured, impossible to unite, and are not setup to have power nationally. So why would Zuma form his own party and voluntarily make himself weaker if you accept his sole goal is power/enrichment and protection of himself?houtkabouter wrote:Would be useful if he left and formed an opposition party.
Bokkom wrote:handyman wrote:I decided to put all Makro salesmen on ignore. WT is good value when he puts his mind to it...Chilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
No man, don't put people on ignore. We are all part of the rich kaleidoscope of South African/Soutpiel/Afrikaans/Clutchplate/Afrikaner/Saffa ideas and opinions.
And you may even miss some good Cobus.
Yeeb's opinion of Saffa humour.troglodiet wrote:Bokkom wrote:handyman wrote:I decided to put all Makro salesmen on ignore. WT is good value when he puts his mind to it...Chilli wrote:Is there anything more childish than the spat between BN and WT?
No man, don't put people on ignore. We are all part of the rich kaleidoscope of South African/Soutpiel/Afrikaans/Clutchplate/Afrikaner/Saffa ideas and opinions.
And you may even miss some good Cobus.
Could someone PLEASE explain what 'Cobus' thing is? I've seen it a couple of times now, once directed at one of my posts, but I guess it's a boredism that came into being when I want as active on here (last 3-4 months of 2017).
Is it supposed to be a Saffa version of the Irish 's "craic"?
If so, I think it's freakin' stupid. Considering that is supposed to be spelled as "crack" in normal English, a better word would be "kraak" or a derivative thereof.