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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:05 pm 
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So, it appears it may be a form of cancer in the throat

As I type, we don't know until this afternoon if it's treatable or not. If it's a blood cancer, then it is. The position of it makes it inoperable.

It may be treatable with chemo long term, or short term for a few months, with steroids, so at least we can have our salad days together.

She's not in massive pain, so that's good. Endoscopy and Biopsy now ongoing- will know more at 2pm

Thanks for all well wishers and common sense talk. Apprc.

I'm with you Jake. Our fella had pancreatitis. Went and hid in the undergrowth.

My wife and I know what you are going through.

Do the best thing. I'm from farming stock and I've been around dogs all my life.

Deep breath.

Keep calm. Do what is best.


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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:30 pm 
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Jake wrote:
So, it appears it may be a form of cancer in the throat

As I type, we don't know until this afternoon if it's treatable or not. If it's a blood cancer, then it is. The position of it makes it inoperable.

It may be treatable with chemo long term, or short term for a few months, with steroids, so at least we can have our salad days together.

She's not in massive pain, so that's good. Endoscopy and Biopsy now ongoing- will know more at 2pm

Thanks for all well wishers and common sense talk. Apprc.


Sorry to hear this. We've all just been through it with our 14 year old Boxer. I should have taken her to the vet after the first couple of days of her becoming restless, panting continuously and not really eating.
I decided to wait until the Monday to get her looked at. I didn't and she died on the couch at 11:45 pm. Just ran out of breath.

I was devastated to lose such a beautiful soul as expected, and still are after 4 months but I also carry the guilt of allowing her to suffer through those couple of days. Still do.

About 2 years ago she started having seizures and the diagnosis was a brain tumour. We put her on a permanent course of anti-seizure meds and she lasted over two years, so there's always hope for Winnie if the tumour stops growing.

The suggestion to check out a second opinion is a sound one IMO, but I really, really regret my reluctance to have her put down at the right time and adding to her suffering.

Kia kaha.


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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:57 pm 
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Jake wrote:
So, it appears it may be a form of cancer in the throat

As I type, we don't know until this afternoon if it's treatable or not. If it's a blood cancer, then it is. The position of it makes it inoperable.

It may be treatable with chemo long term, or short term for a few months, with steroids, so at least we can have our salad days together.

She's not in massive pain, so that's good. Endoscopy and Biopsy now ongoing- will know more at 2pm

Thanks for all well wishers and common sense talk. Apprc.


Hi Jake,I hope it goes well, but that 2nd picture is the picture of a dog who is very down.
I do not have first hand experience, but chemo for humans is not something to be sniffed at. Think of how the dog will be going through it.


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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:23 pm 
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Leinster in London wrote:
Jake wrote:
So, it appears it may be a form of cancer in the throat

As I type, we don't know until this afternoon if it's treatable or not. If it's a blood cancer, then it is. The position of it makes it inoperable.

It may be treatable with chemo long term, or short term for a few months, with steroids, so at least we can have our salad days together.

She's not in massive pain, so that's good. Endoscopy and Biopsy now ongoing- will know more at 2pm

Thanks for all well wishers and common sense talk. Apprc.


Hi Jake,I hope it goes well, but that 2nd picture is the picture of a dog who is very down.
I do not have first hand experience, but chemo for humans is not something to be sniffed at. Think of how the dog will be going through it.


FWIW, having spoken to the vet since this post, the chances of chemo are slim. Best hope, a few weeks or months pain free on steriods, have some fun, send the old girl off in style. She's not in pain, but the swelling makes breathing raspy.

She's in the best vet centre in Europe so I'll be guided by them and do what ever is best.


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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:27 pm 
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Does not look good Jake. Sorry.

I've had a chat with our local vet as a result of your post as I've taken my dog the have his teeth cleaned.

Dogs are wonderful and must be cherished.

They are as faithful as you can get. I'm always amazed at how they can recognise you.

A sniff here, a sniff there and they are all over you.

It must be so hard on you, given your circumstances.

Come on Winnie! Beat the odds.


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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:49 pm 
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Jake wrote:
She's in the best vet centre in Europe so I'll be guided by them and do what ever is best.
Unfortunately that is often whatever is best for the vet centre.


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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:57 pm 
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How's Winnie Jake?


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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
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BlackMac wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Having pets like cats and dogs are brilliant.

It doesn't take away from the sad fact, that we will nearly always outlive our pets and that each passing is incredibly heartbreaking

You need to do what's right for the dog. If she is suffering, take the vets advice. Hard I know it is for you.


So much this. Although some vets are guilty of providing horrifically poor advice.

I have recently seen two aquaintances spend a horrific amount on their pets, one an uneblievable £12000 on "groundbreaking" treatments for a 25 year old cat, who died three weeks later. On each occassion they were thinking more about themselves than the animal. This was encouraged by the vets who are disgracefully taking advantage of such people's emotions to fund experimental treatments.

For your info Jake, the other was £10000 on a replacement heart valve for their dog, although a 2 year old one to be fair.


How much was a new one?😱

Always an incredibly sad time, but I’d suggest no point in prolonging the inevitable, unless the specialists are convinced she can live a normal life following a non-ridiculous procedure that they may recommend. Only you can make the decision though, as you’re the one who has to live with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Winnie.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:34 pm 
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Harry was rescued about the same time I got my dog. He's cocker spaniel and something, gorgeous, very friendly but walks you, eats cat shit and won't let anyone touch his paws. He hurt his paw, nothing to see but was feeling sorry for him in his bed. So his owners called out of hours and had the vets at oakbeck look at him (aka the stupidly expensive vets that everyone warns you about). For £680 they got an overnight stay, an injection and an x-ray.

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Fingers crossed for Winnie.


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