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Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:55 pm
by iarmhiman
Give it a rest 2204.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:19 pm
by Bobcock
Diego wrote:Luckycharmer wrote:Frodder wrote:CM11 wrote:Teams:
Ireland: Dempsey (Leinster); Murphy (Leicester), O'Driscoll (Leinster), Maggs (Bath), Hickie (Leinster; Henderson , Munster, 75min); Humphreys (Ulster; O'Gara , Munster, 74), Stringer (Munster; G Easterby , Llanelli, 77); Clohessy (Munster; P Wallace , Leinster, 73), Sheahan (Munster; Byrne , Leinster, 73), Hayes (Munster), Galwey (Munster; Gleeson , Leinster, 73), O'Connell (Munster; Longwell , Ulster, 31), S Easterby (Llanelli) D Wallace (Munster), A Foley (Munster).
Tries: Murphy 2, O'Connell, Hickie, Gleeson, O'Gara. Cons: Humphreys 2, O'Gara. Pens: Humphreys 6.
Wales: K Morgan (Swansea); D James (Bridgend), Robinson (Cardiff; Marinos , Newport, 10), Harris (Cardiff), C Morgan (Cardiff); S Jones (Llanelli), Howley (Cardiff; Peel , Llanelli, 57); John (Cardiff; D Jones , Neath, 57), McBryde (Llanelli; B Williams , Neath, 70), Anthony (Newport), C Quinnell (Cardiff), C Wyatt (Llanelli; Gough , Newport, 6), Budgett (Bridgend), M Williams (Cardiff), S Quinnell (Llanelli, captain).
Try: S Jones. Con: S Jones. Pen: S Jones.
I knew I was messing with the Stats master. Our team is weird with some good players mixed with utter dross
I Harris had a nightmare that day after coming over as a big star from League
I think I was at that game. A few names in that Welsh team right enough. Kevin Morgan was always a very handy attacker but very lightweight. Jamie Robinson was a permacrock iirc. Craig Morgan I remember being fats with a big left peg but not much else.
I was there, think I may have met up with Leinsterman that day? Not sure...a Guinness after the game I think. It took a lot of Guinness to drown that..... Henry was gone by Tuesday.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:22 pm
by Bobcock
cubby boi wrote:nardol wrote:Really a very weak Ireland side out.
Henshaw, furlong, SOB, Henderson, Dillane, are big big losses.
Wales by 4
And Faletau, Jon Davies, Webb, Warbuton and Ball aren’t? Who’s Dillane ffs
Boohoo. Game on.
Cuthbert.... you forgot Cuthbert!!!!!!!
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:24 pm
by bessantj
Bobcock wrote:cubby boi wrote:nardol wrote:Really a very weak Ireland side out.
Henshaw, furlong, SOB, Henderson, Dillane, are big big losses.
Wales by 4
And Faletau, Jon Davies, Webb, Warbuton and Ball aren’t? Who’s Dillane ffs
Boohoo. Game on.
Cuthbert.... you forgot Cuthbert!!!!!!!
Good old Cuthbert, yeah. Don't wanna forget him.......you know he once scored
two tries against England? No word of a lie.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:27 pm
by Jeff the Bear
bessantj wrote:Bobcock wrote:cubby boi wrote:nardol wrote:Really a very weak Ireland side out.
Henshaw, furlong, SOB, Henderson, Dillane, are big big losses.
Wales by 4
And Faletau, Jon Davies, Webb, Warbuton and Ball aren’t? Who’s Dillane ffs
Boohoo. Game on.
Cuthbert.... you forgot Cuthbert!!!!!!!
Good old Cuthbert, yeah. Don't wanna forget him.......you know he once scored
two tries against England? No word of a lie.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:55 pm
by booze
Ireland should be too strong at home. I think Wales over the last two games have played above themselves with a lot of their top players out. they were seen as underdogs against a resurgent Scotland and fought very hard against England and had their chances but didn’t take them.
I think Ireland are in a similar situation to wales in round 1 and with a lot of fringe players having a lot improve. Wales will come unstuck as I don’t think they will be able to reach the heights again with these players after 2 big games.
Murray and sexton will probably be the difference here.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:12 pm
by feckwanker
It'll be a monumental choke from Wales if they don't win it now.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:22 pm
by Jeff the Bear
The day Copsey punched Neil Francis:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... y-14324496
Franno has hated us ever since!
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:24 pm
by Teenage_hooker
feckwanker wrote:Ok, roll call of attendees: mise
Im there.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:27 pm
by Silvio Berlusconi
Ireland by a double digit score
I await the berating of the refereeing decisions in due course
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:34 pm
by Lenny
Ffs, everyone hates you lot, although having one of yours lamp that cnut did momentarily give me a warm feeling towards you.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:35 pm
by Jeff the Bear
EverReady wrote:I refuse to go until they apologise to Franno. All of them.
All of Ireland has to apologise for Franno and his writing skillz first.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:46 am
by Conspicuous
Teenage_hooker wrote:feckwanker wrote:Ok, roll call of attendees: mise
Im there.
Me too
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:00 am
by Frodder
Lenny wrote:
Ffs, everyone hates you lot, although having one of yours lamp that cnut did momentarily give me a warm feeling towards you.
1 of ours. Wasn't he from Romford? I think he had that tattooed on the gluteus maximus
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:40 am
by redderneck
I dread playing Wales. Pointless penning paragraphs about it, or pondering over head to heads. Even had we a fully fit squad I'd dread it for the simple reason that they appear more than any other NH side, to have our number AND the players/plans to execute.
The injuries just make me dread it more.
I long to be proven wrong.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:40 am
by redderneck
Dbl post
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:45 am
by CM11
redderneck wrote:I dread playing Wales. Pointless penning paragraphs about it, or pondering over head to heads. Even had we a fully fit squad I'd dread it for the simple reason that they appear more than any other NH side, to have our number AND the players/plans to execute.
The injuries just make me dread it more.
I long to be proven wrong.
Wales are a good side whose defence is up there with the best in the world. There's really no working anyone out or having anyone's number. We just have less wriggle room against them because of their expertise in the tackle/ruck area and because our own style relies on fine margins.
I've just finished watching the 2016 game and as I said on the Irish thread, you could have swapped jerseys and no one would have had a problem believing Wales were actually Ireland nor Ireland were Wales.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:03 am
by Sissyfuss
I'm worried about Wales illegal scrummaging.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:04 am
by CM11
Scrums are likely to be a mess and we'll want to keep them to a minimum for sure.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:21 am
by Sissyfuss
I was listening to Stephen Ferris on a podcast last night. He is not overly concerned about Porter in the scrum. Says he would have been trying to best McGrath and Healy since his introduction to the Leinster setup. Not bad players to do live scrummaging against. He thinks he will struggle with the pace of the game and the ball in play for so long.
Is it too much to expect him to get parity? I think we could be in trouble if the Welshers put the squeeze on in Halfpenny range. Easy points for 50 mins.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:24 am
by CM11
Don't think Halfpenny has the range he's had in the past.
If Wales manage to force a lot of knock ons then they might get some joy there but I don't see that happening.
We might be looking back on Sat evening lamenting the scrums but even two years ago when they were a disaster in the first half and we conceded that try, we had enough play and opportunity to win the game if we'd cut out the errors.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:31 am
by Rugby2023
redderneck wrote:I dread playing Wales. Pointless penning paragraphs about it, or pondering over head to heads. Even had we a fully fit squad I'd dread it for the simple reason that they appear more than any other NH side, to have our number AND the players/plans to execute. The injuries just make me dread it more. I long to be proven wrong.
Ireland's 6N record v Wales & England is roughly the same since 2010 (3-3 plus draw, and 4-4). In recent years, Wales have generally been the third best 6N side so this match is essentially #2 vs #3, as such is the second most significant match in the competition after England v Ireland.
I expect Ireland to win by 15+, I just think mentally they'll be in a better place coming off two good wins than Wales coming off a tough away defeat and having to travel for another away fixture against another tough opponent. We'll see.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:32 am
by Sissyfuss
CM11 wrote:Don't think Halfpenny has the range he's had in the past.
If Wales manage to force a lot of knock ons then they might get some joy there but I don't see that happening.
We might be looking back on Sat evening lamenting the scrums but even two years ago when they were a disaster in the first half and we conceded that try, we had enough play and opportunity to win the game if we'd cut out the errors.
You are right. I watched that came again and it was incredibly frustrating. Commentators referring to it as rusty play..it will all come good. We seem to say that for the majority of the time which at this stage has to be a worry.
I'm a little bit worried about POM and Stander. Hopefully POM is in a rage about the Lions "treatment" otherwise Wales enthusiasm in that area could be telling.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:30 pm
by CM11
c69 wrote:Wtf was wrong with the way POM was treated by the Lions?
The fact that you don't even know just feeds his rage.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:34 pm
by Yer Man
Sissyfuss wrote:I'm worried about Wales illegal scrummaging.
Could have done with Joe talking about how the ref needs to watch that Welsh tactic of not taking the hit to make it look like early shove on our part.
Been a naggingly effective tactic from their regional and national sides for a few years.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:35 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
one thing to unite us all ! beautiful punch
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:37 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
Sissyfuss wrote:I was listening to Stephen Ferris on a podcast last night. He is not overly concerned about Porter in the scrum. Says he would have been trying to best McGrath and Healy since his introduction to the Leinster setup. Not bad players to do live scrummaging against. He thinks he will struggle with the pace of the game and the ball in play for so long.
Is it too much to expect him to get parity? I think we could be in trouble if the Welshers put the squeeze on in Halfpenny range. Easy points for 50 mins.
Jackman roughly along the same lines - his concern was that the welsh/scarlet's front row as a collective unit is more cohesive
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:38 pm
by redderneck
Sissyfuss wrote:CM11 wrote:Don't think Halfpenny has the range he's had in the past.
If Wales manage to force a lot of knock ons then they might get some joy there but I don't see that happening.
We might be looking back on Sat evening lamenting the scrums but even two years ago when they were a disaster in the first half and we conceded that try, we had enough play and opportunity to win the game if we'd cut out the errors.
You are right. I watched that came again and it was incredibly frustrating. Commentators referring to it as rusty play..it will all come good. We seem to say that for the majority of the time which at this stage has to be a worry.
I'm a little bit worried about POM and Stander. Hopefully POM is in a rage about the Lions "treatment" otherwise Wales enthusiasm in that area could be telling.
I'm more worried about our front five. Back row needs parity from the lower numbers and then you can heap praise or point fingers as needs be after the game. But absent front five parity most back rows are on a hiding to nothing.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:24 pm
by Sissyfuss
c69 wrote:ticketlessinseattle wrote:Sissyfuss wrote:I was listening to Stephen Ferris on a podcast last night. He is not overly concerned about Porter in the scrum. Says he would have been trying to best McGrath and Healy since his introduction to the Leinster setup. Not bad players to do live scrummaging against. He thinks he will struggle with the pace of the game and the ball in play for so long.
Is it too much to expect him to get parity? I think we could be in trouble if the Welshers put the squeeze on in Halfpenny range. Easy points for 50 mins.
Jackman roughly along the same lines - his concern was that the welsh/scarlet's front row as a collective unit is more cohesive
Wales have an effective scrum these days and decent replacements.
We did the job against the English at scrum time but were not sufficiently rewarded.
I suspect we will target the scrum big time. However I can only see an Irish win by at least 1 score.
Home advantage is massive.
Home advantage is not massive in this fixture? Every time I have seen Ireland and Wales in Dublin, Wales have won! And no, I'm not going tomorrow. I shall be watching it in glorious HD on the front room Goggler!
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:25 pm
by Mulleh
Heard it through the grapevine the sexton just pulled out of the captains run with a back spasm
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:32 pm
by bessantj
Silvio Berlusconi wrote:Ireland by a double digit score
I await the berating of the refereeing decisions in due course
Well I suppose 00 is a double digit score. Should be a good match and I am crossing my fingers that Wales can manage a win when Ireland fall apart in the last ten minutes.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:32 pm
by Sissyfuss
Mulleh wrote:Heard it through the grapevine the sexton just pulled out of the captains run with a back spasm
Yes but he went galloping around with them for the end of it. Rory Best spoke about it. Doubt there is anything in it if its being made public.
Rosary beads out.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:42 pm
by happyhooker
Frodder wrote:Lenny wrote:
Ffs, everyone hates you lot, although having one of yours lamp that cnut did momentarily give me a warm feeling towards you.
1 of ours. Wasn't he from Romford? I think he had that tattooed on the gluteus maximus
His tattoo reads "made in England"
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:46 pm
by Andalu
Sissyfuss wrote:Mulleh wrote:Heard it through the grapevine the sexton just pulled out of the captains run with a back spasm
Yes but he went galloping around with them for the end of it. Rory Best spoke about it. Doubt there is anything in it if its being made public.
Rosary beads out.
Don't worry, Paddy Jackson should make a good fist of it.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:53 pm
by Rugby2023
Andalu wrote:Sissyfuss wrote:Mulleh wrote:Heard it through the grapevine the sexton just pulled out of the captains run with a back spasm
Yes but he went galloping around with them for the end of it. Rory Best spoke about it. Doubt there is anything in it if its being made public.
Rosary beads out.
Don't worry, Paddy Jackson should make a good fist of it.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:07 pm
by Da iawn diolch
Rugby2023 wrote:redderneck wrote:I dread playing Wales. Pointless penning paragraphs about it, or pondering over head to heads. Even had we a fully fit squad I'd dread it for the simple reason that they appear more than any other NH side, to have our number AND the players/plans to execute. The injuries just make me dread it more. I long to be proven wrong.
Ireland's 6N record v Wales & England is roughly the same since 2010 (3-3 plus draw, and 4-4). In recent years, Wales have generally been the third best 6N side so this match is essentially #2 vs #3, as such is the second most significant match in the competition after England v Ireland.
I expect Ireland to win by 15+, I just think mentally they'll be in a better place coming off two good wins than Wales coming off a tough away defeat and having to travel for another away fixture against another tough opponent. We'll see.
See, I don't disagree with your assessment (Ireland could win comfortably), but I don't think two fairly mediocre performances have given Ireland decent prep. Wales have already stood up to (and came very close to) the best team in this tournament, so they know the level of intensity required to compete. They should also feel buoyed after hammering a team who were red-hot favourites with most pundits.
With all that in mind, I'd suggest that Wales probably come into the game in a better frame of mind. Whether that equates to a win or not is impossible to tell - but their preparation hasn't been shoddy, that's for sure.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:10 pm
by Mullet 2
I'm less worried.
Nation of bottlers the Welsh
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:10 pm
by Da iawn diolch
Yer Man wrote:Sissyfuss wrote:I'm worried about Wales illegal scrummaging.
Could have done with Joe talking about how the ref needs to watch that Welsh tactic of not taking the hit to make it look like early shove on our part.
Been a naggingly effective tactic from their regional and national sides for a few years.
If you think that it's only Wales doing that, then you need your other eye testing. It's literally a universal tactic in the game - Sarries are excellent at it, and it often masks Vunipola's weakness at 1.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:13 pm
by danny_fitz
Rugby2023 wrote:redderneck wrote:I dread playing Wales. Pointless penning paragraphs about it, or pondering over head to heads. Even had we a fully fit squad I'd dread it for the simple reason that they appear more than any other NH side, to have our number AND the players/plans to execute. The injuries just make me dread it more. I long to be proven wrong.
Ireland's 6N record v Wales & England is roughly the same since 2010 (3-3 plus draw, and 4-4). In recent years, Wales have generally been the third best 6N side so this match is essentially #2 vs #3, as such is the second most significant match in the competition after England v Ireland.
I expect Ireland to win by 15+, I just think mentally they'll be in a better place coming off two good wins than Wales coming off a tough away defeat and having to travel for another away fixture against another tough opponent. We'll see.
I can't see 15+, not only do Wales seem to have no fear against Ireland they seem to actively up their game no matter how shite previous results have been. I am very nervous with this fixture.
Re: OFFICIAL Ireland v Wales, Sat Feb 24th, KO @ 14:15
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:15 pm
by CM11
Ireland's performance before emptying our bench was very good against Italy, albeit the opposition weren't up to much so the relevance is questionable.
We got through a fair bit of what we were trying to get through against France but a combination of a number of things, primarily France killing the ball anytime we got near or into their 22 saw chances few and far between but it's a case of tweaking that performance and being a bit more accurate rather than wholesale changes to our play that's needed this weekend.
Of course we have to play well and a bit better than against France but then we generally do at home.