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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:32 pm 
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Am getting into The Expanse

Late starter, me, but good so far


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Season 3 is coming in March, I believe.

Very different feel to Star Trek. Much more like Firefly in the technology and slightly more realistic (for sci-fi) setting that they use.


Good good, lots of catching up to do.


Started reading the books since watching the show, just finished the third book yesterday. There's definitely a backdrop of super alien species that are either far away in the stars or possibly even long-dead. Standard enough sci-fi tropes, but the main story is based on the human conflicts that arise out of exposure to seemingly alien technology like the protomolecule and how different parties try to exploit the situations.
The setting of humans having set up colonies on Mars and other moons and slowly expanding through the solar system is cool. There isn't too much far-out made up tech aside from the magic engine that allows them to travel fairly fast; you can get your head around the technology and trade economies that would arise out of that situation.


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star trek is just a bit too boring for me, it doesn't have any starfighters, giant superweapons with exhaust ports, ground attack Elephants that handily land far away and get to travel over extremely flat terrain, or chained birds in gold bikini's.

It's got Giant Tardigrades and space lesbians :shock:


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star trek is just a bit too boring for me, it doesn't have any starfighters, giant superweapons with exhaust ports, ground attack Elephants that handily land far away and get to travel over extremely flat terrain, or chained birds in gold bikini's.

It's got Giant Tardigrades and space lesbians :shock:


This. The inter-generational thing between Giorgiou and Burnham. It matches my interests


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c69 wrote:
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star trek is just a bit too boring for me, it doesn't have any starfighters, giant superweapons with exhaust ports, ground attack Elephants that handily land far away and get to travel over extremely flat terrain, or chained birds in gold bikini's.

It's got Giant Tardigrades and space lesbians :shock:


Tell me more about these intergalactic bean flickers?


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c69 wrote:
backrow wrote:
star trek is just a bit too boring for me, it doesn't have any starfighters, giant superweapons with exhaust ports, ground attack Elephants that handily land far away and get to travel over extremely flat terrain, or chained birds in gold bikini's.

It's got Giant Tardigrades and space lesbians :shock:


Tell me more about these intergalactic bean flickers?


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star trek is just a bit too boring for me, it doesn't have any starfighters, giant superweapons with exhaust ports, ground attack Elephants that handily land far away and get to travel over extremely flat terrain, or chained birds in gold bikini's.


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Needs Sherry Jackson and Celeste Yarnall for proper Trek totty.


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I just found the 'alternate universe' story arc a bit lazy. Star Trek writers seem to find comfort in 'parallel universes' and 'time travel' where cast members get to meet their good/evil counterparts.

The spore drive was a bit shite as well.

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mirror universe is a constant trope in the star trek universe.

star trek aint star trek without it.

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Kira and Dax if I am not mistaken


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Only watched the first 4 episodes. Need to get back in to it. The first 2 episodes though were so :thumbdown: .


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Kira and Dax if I am not mistaken

[puts on pointy ears]
Mirror Kira and Ezri dax
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After Trek said the bit if glowy funghi that landed on Tilly will be addressed next season.

So if Terran Lorca came over here did Prime Lorca go over there?


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After Trek said the bit if glowy funghi that landed on Tilly will be addressed next season.

So if Terran Lorca came over here did Prime Lorca go over there?


We were told so and that he could not possibly survive.

I'm thinking nasty-Lorca will regenerate from the glowy bit of spore


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So who is going to be the new captain. Surely not Spock?


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ukjim wrote:
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Kira and Dax if I am not mistaken

[puts on pointy ears]
Mirror Kira and Ezri dax
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:lol: one of my favourite sub plots was where Ezri and Worf get together.


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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?

Me :x


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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


WTF?! DS9 is the best of all the Trek series.


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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


As it's often considered the best trek series lots of people seem to have watched it (though these people are of course wrong everyone knows the best series is the Animated Series).

I finished watching Discovery last night, it was a really up and down season quality wise. Interested to see a second season though.


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Jeff the Bear wrote:
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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


WTF?! DS9 is the best of all the Trek series.

This. Burn the Heretic. Avery Brooks is a god a fecking God I tell you.


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I reckon Jeff could fight and win against a Klingon warrior. :thumbup:


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I reckon Jeff could fight and win against a Klingon warrior. :thumbup:


It is a good day to die!


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I reckon Jeff could fight and win against a Klingon warrior. :thumbup:


It is a good day to die!

Remain Klingon! :x


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DS:9 has some of the best ever trek episodes. In the Pale Moonlight and The Visitor. That was trek.


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DS:9 has some of the best ever trek episodes. In the Pale Moonlight and The Visitor. That was trek.

Duet was great.


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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


WTF?! DS9 is the best of all the Trek series.


+3

A good mate of mine is TNG all the way, but I made him - someone who works in the film / telly industry - think twice when I said the serial nature of the Dominion War eps, interspersed with more traditional one-and-done eps, was well ahead of its time because that's what everyone does now, not what people were doing in the 90s.

It also featured, possibly, the best body in the series ;)

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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


As it's often considered the best trek series lots of people seem to have watched it (though these people are of course wrong everyone knows the best series is the Animated Series).

I finished watching Discovery last night, it was a really up and down season quality wise. Interested to see a second season though.


It was soap with pointy ears. Very little sci fi. people like soap drama. I'm not knocking it if that's your thing - millions watch Corry apparently.


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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


WTF?! DS9 is the best of all the Trek series.


+3

A good mate of mine is TNG all the way, but I made him - someone who works in the film / telly industry - think twice when I said the serial nature of the Dominion War eps, interspersed with more traditional one-and-done eps, was well ahead of its time because that's what everyone does now, not what people were doing in the 90s.

It also featured, possibly, the best body in the series ;)

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Nothing compares to Jerry Ryan apart from T'Pol obvs perhaps


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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


As it's often considered the best trek series lots of people seem to have watched it (though these people are of course wrong everyone knows the best series is the Animated Series).

I finished watching Discovery last night, it was a really up and down season quality wise. Interested to see a second season though.


It was soap with pointy ears. Very little sci fi. people like soap drama. I'm not knocking it if that's your thing - millions watch Corry apparently.


I'm wondering how DS9 is more saopy than any of the other 'modern' Trek series? In fact DS9 is deemed to be the best (by those that believe that) because it was a darker, harder take on the Trek universe. It wasn't all sweetness and light. It was the first (and until Discovery, only) Trek series to attempt to deal in the 'grey' areas of life.


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Nothing compares to Jerry Ryan apart from T'Pol obvs perhaps


I'll give you Ryan, but I suspect Blalock - ironically - has bolt-ons.

That said, Leeta / Masterson still looks fantastic...

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Jeff the Bear wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
bessantj wrote:
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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


As it's often considered the best trek series lots of people seem to have watched it (though these people are of course wrong everyone knows the best series is the Animated Series).

I finished watching Discovery last night, it was a really up and down season quality wise. Interested to see a second season though.


It was soap with pointy ears. Very little sci fi. people like soap drama. I'm not knocking it if that's your thing - millions watch Corry apparently.


I'm wondering how DS9 is more saopy than any of the other 'modern' Trek series? In fact DS9 is deemed to be the best (by those that believe that) because it was a darker, harder take on the Trek universe. It wasn't all sweetness and light. It was the first (and until Discovery, only) Trek series to attempt to deal in the 'grey' areas of life.


Just was reminded of that episode that's straight out of a Vietnam movie. Federation troops defending a captured communications thingy, surrounded by the enemy, lost half their original contingent. Big badass dude no longer in uniform and bitter as Hell, has Jem'Hadar drug canister necklace. They're using invisible mines which the Fed engineers - including the guy who played the boy in Lost in Space - re-program them to massacre their enemies, giving them a fighting chance for the the final stand. Pretty sure that's where Nog loses his leg, followed by eps of him dealing with PTSD.

Dark AF, but really compelling as many of the characters get deep treatment more often than your average supporting Trek character (I suspect... I'm no expert on TNG or Voyager).


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DS9 was the best series at fleshing out the lesser developed species, like the Ferengi and the Klingons. It was a very immersive show and the relationships that developed over the long arcs were great pieces of storytelling.

The war with the Dominion, the consequences of the Cardassian betrayal and the subterfuge by Sisko in getting the Romulans to enter the war is some of the best writing in any sci fi series


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Nieghorn wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


WTF?! DS9 is the best of all the Trek series.


+3

A good mate of mine is TNG all the way, but I made him - someone who works in the film / telly industry - think twice when I said the serial nature of the Dominion War eps, interspersed with more traditional one-and-done eps, was well ahead of its time because that's what everyone does now, not what people were doing in the 90s.

It also featured, possibly, the best body in the series ;)

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Of course {and I'm a big DS9 fan), the reality is it was following in the footsteps of Babylon 5, both in format and themes


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Oh, right! I never got into that. Worth tracking down?


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Babylon 5 was awesome. Probably the first multi-seasonal Sci Fi show I can remember that didn't use a 'monster of the week' format, and had long story arcs. The ending was also written during the development, which means the story is fairly tight (which it has to be where time travel is concerned).


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Jeff the Bear wrote:
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The sci fi is a lot lacking. It's a bit too soap-in-space.
More deep space nine than voyager. and who managed to watch DS9?


WTF?! DS9 is the best of all the Trek series.


+3

A good mate of mine is TNG all the way, but I made him - someone who works in the film / telly industry - think twice when I said the serial nature of the Dominion War eps, interspersed with more traditional one-and-done eps, was well ahead of its time because that's what everyone does now, not what people were doing in the 90s.

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+4, the best by some margin. Would love it if they did a remake using modern CGI and production values.

Garak is one of the best characters in the star trek universe.


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Garak was great. His tit/tat with Odo was good to watch also.

Surprised to see both actors are now well into their 70s.


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DS:9 has some of the best ever trek episodes. In the Pale Moonlight and The Visitor. That was trek.


That and Nana Visitor was bangin


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Garak is one of the best characters in television history.


Fixed. :)


Maxbox, glad I'm not the only one ...


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Lets see who they cast as Christopher Pike in the 2nd season of ST:D :P .. they need to bring an A-Lister for this, age wise, if they go around 40 or less for an actor to play Pike, Charlie Hunnam is my choice..if slightly older, Tom Welling or Josh Duhamel .Nathan Fillion could be a hilariously good choice too ..


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