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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:29 pm 
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Hey, as long as you know you're only going to be in clear one on one fights with an unarmed opponent, BJJ is the shit. It rocks. It's fantastic. No question there.

Obviously you don't know that you'll only ever be in 1-1 fights with an unarmed opponent. But for the average guy, that is the most likely scenario. And if you ever are, and it's unavoidable, then yes, I believe it would be incredibly helpful. I know you're not saying it, so I'm not putting words in your mouth, but there were guys in the other thread basically saying it wouldn't mean shit. Which is just nonsense. Grapple with even just a blue-belt in BJJ and they'd change their tune very quickly. You feel totally incapacitated and totally vulnerable to their whim. Let alone a serious expert.

And it's not just BJJ. Any sort of grappling that requires constant sparring would work.


Look, I'm not knocking BJJ at all, it really is a lot more combat oriented than most sports like Karate. It's great training, gives you a lot more capability and is very useful, I'm not disagreeing with that at all, so give those needless digs a rest, ok?


Being in a 1-1 scenario is no longer the most likely option any more, especially judging by many thread on here, where the scourge of immigrant gangs going round and attacking people is a daily occurrence in Europe apparently.
Kids growing up now have no 'honour code' drummed into them about fights being fair, or stopping when your opponent goes down, and trying to still play by those rules gets some pretty capable guys badly hurt every day. They'll think nothing of stepping in when you take your opponent to the ground and start choking him out and giving you a few swift kicks to the head, if he isn't already stabbing your arm with his knife.

If you go to ground, you've lost your mobility, your overview, your ability to disengage rapidly. If you have a choice -I'll repeat that - IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE - don't drop to the ground and lose those abilities as they may be the difference between waling away and getting a boot to the head, at least.


Yes, well I agree with all of that and apologize for the "needless digs".

My only point of contention is that if you're up against multiple guys who are willing to glass you, you're f-cked in any case. If there was zero option but to fight for your life, the best option would probably be to try and catch the first one, or the leader, on the jaw or the nose with a hard punch I guess, and just hope the others have second thoughts. But yes, going to the ground and wrestling him for five minutes with his mates standing around willing to bottle you is probably not the best strategy.

In my experience, the vast majority of confrontations are one-on-one though. Or if not, then it's many-on-many and most of the time, they kind of pair-off anyway. But I do take your point. Maybe I'm just getting old. It's not as if I go around getting in fights at 40. Maybe these days it's all a big gang bang against one person.

Still, even if only 20% are one-on-one, I'd still rather have the training than not have it. I think the number would be considerably higher than 20% though. Of course, it depends largely on where you live, where you go, and who you hang out with. I would think that the average, non-ghetto, non-criminal or gang urban confrontation - often as a result of road rage, or pub disagreements, or whatever, are still often, but not always, one on one.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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Hey, as long as you know you're only going to be in clear one on one fights with an unarmed opponent, BJJ is the shit. It rocks. It's fantastic. No question there.

Obviously you don't know that you'll only ever be in 1-1 fights with an unarmed opponent. But for the average guy, that is the most likely scenario. And if you ever are, and it's unavoidable, then yes, I believe it would be incredibly helpful. I know you're not saying it, so I'm not putting words in your mouth, but there were guys in the other thread basically saying it wouldn't mean shit. Which is just nonsense. Grapple with even just a blue-belt in BJJ and they'd change their tune very quickly. You feel totally incapacitated and totally vulnerable to their whim. Let alone a serious expert.

And it's not just BJJ. Any sort of grappling that requires constant sparring would work.



Most non-grapplers would be total shit against a good grappler. Boxers have a hard time subduing wrestlers ... in a ring.

But even an outstanding grappler would be shit to the extra guy, the guy on his feet, the guy who is swinging the bottle from behind ...


Yes, this has been an ongoing point. And I do not disagree at all. Still useful to be an outstanding grappler in-case it ever happens and there is no extra guy willing to bottle you.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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Mog The Almighty wrote:
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Hey, as long as you know you're only going to be in clear one on one fights with an unarmed opponent, BJJ is the shit. It rocks. It's fantastic. No question there.

Obviously you don't know that you'll only ever be in 1-1 fights with an unarmed opponent. But for the average guy, that is the most likely scenario. And if you ever are, and it's unavoidable, then yes, I believe it would be incredibly helpful. I know you're not saying it, so I'm not putting words in your mouth, but there were guys in the other thread basically saying it wouldn't mean shit. Which is just nonsense. Grapple with even just a blue-belt in BJJ and they'd change their tune very quickly. You feel totally incapacitated and totally vulnerable to their whim. Let alone a serious expert.

And it's not just BJJ. Any sort of grappling that requires constant sparring would work.


Look, I'm not knocking BJJ at all, it really is a lot more combat oriented than most sports like Karate. It's great training, gives you a lot more capability and is very useful, I'm not disagreeing with that at all, so give those needless digs a rest, ok?


Being in a 1-1 scenario is no longer the most likely option any more, especially judging by many thread on here, where the scourge of immigrant gangs going round and attacking people is a daily occurrence in Europe apparently.
Kids growing up now have no 'honour code' drummed into them about fights being fair, or stopping when your opponent goes down, and trying to still play by those rules gets some pretty capable guys badly hurt every day. They'll think nothing of stepping in when you take your opponent to the ground and start choking him out and giving you a few swift kicks to the head, if he isn't already stabbing your arm with his knife.

If you go to ground, you've lost your mobility, your overview, your ability to disengage rapidly. If you have a choice -I'll repeat that - IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE - don't drop to the ground and lose those abilities as they may be the difference between waling away and getting a boot to the head, at least.


Yes, well I agree with all of that and apologize for the "needless digs".

My only point of contention is that if you're up against multiple guys who are willing to glass you, you're f-cked in any case. If there was zero option but to fight for your life, the best option would probably be to try and catch the first one, or the leader, on the jaw or the nose with a hard punch I guess, and just hope the others have second thoughts. But yes, going to the ground and wrestling him for five minutes with his mates standing around willing to bottle you is probably not the best strategy.

In my experience, the vast majority of confrontations are one-on-one though. Or if not, then it's many-on-many and most of the time, they kind of pair-off anyway. But I do take your point. Maybe I'm just getting old. It's not as if I go around getting in fights at 40. Maybe these days it's all a big gang bang against one person.

Still, even if only 20% are one-on-one, I'd still rather have the training than not have it. I think the number would be considerably higher than 20% though. Of course, it depends largely on where you live, where you go, and who you hang out with. I would think that the average, non-ghetto, non-criminal or gang urban confrontation - often as a result of road rage, or pub disagreements, or whatever, are still often, but not always, one on one.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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That's also been discussed a lot. We all agree, if that's a possibility it's by far the best option.

It's all hypothetical man-talk anyway really. Let's hope that none of us are ever in a situation where any of this discussion becomes relevant.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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You should have taken him to the ground BJJ style


8) boom.

Obviously you were not one of the guys telling me my BJJ training would be useless in a "real fight".

And yeah, I agree - if you know what you're doing. Taking a dude to the ground isn't going to be that helpful if you're just as clueless as they are. The best thing about it in these kind of situations is, if you know what you're doing, you can totally subdue the guy without actually doing any damage that could wind you up in court or something.

Naki: sorry to hear about that experience. Must have been frightening as hell, although sounds like you handled it well. Dealing with someone who is obviously unhinged is scary because you just don't know what they're willing to do. Did you or anyone else get a number plate? Did you get contact details from any of the witnesses?

As a side-point, how f'n mental does a fellah have to be to tail-gate someone like a moron, rear-end them and then get out and act like it was all the other guys fault. Crazy shit.


I was, it was a joke at your expense.


Okay, so you have no idea what you're talking about then. Fair enough.


Well I don't do BJJ, no interest in fighting or mid-life crisis coping mechanisms, I was just laughing at your ridiculous assertion that finding yourself on the ground during a fight was safe. But that's it really.

No fighting is safe. But if you think it's safer to stand up and bang than you're either a moron or have no idea what you're talking about. I'm assuming a mix of both.

Mid-life crisis coping mechanisms. :lol: Nice little dig there you prick. It's not a mid-life crisis coping mechanism. It's simply that I'm giving up rugby and want to do something that remains physical and challenging and keeps me fit and flexible. And hey ... if that actually is my "mid life crisis coping mechanism", f-ck it, I could be doing a lot worse than hard, challenging physical activity. So sit and spin buddy.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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No fighting is safe. But if you think it's safer to stand up and bang than you're either a moron or have no idea what you're talking about. I'm assuming a mix of both.

Mid-life crisis coping mechanisms. :lol: Nice little dig there you prick. It's not a mid-life crisis coping mechanism. It's simply that I'm giving up rugby and want to do something that remains physical and challenging and keeps me fit and flexible. And hey ... if that actually is my "mid life crisis coping mechanism", f-ck it, I could be doing a lot worse than hard, challenging physical activity. So sit and spin buddy.


I've never said standing up and fighting is sensible, it's demonstrably not. What I think is that fights on the street are generally not one on one, or in my experience are not. Being on the ground is not a safe place, particularly if you're the only one down there and there's more than one person around and involved. It's pretty logical. I've a small bit of fighting experience, and I don't fancy getting any more. I don't really fancy getting in another discussion about it here, because I don't really care.

On the other thread you said you wanted to learn BJJ so you'd be better in a fight, which is it? Nothing wrong with physical activity, I'm a fan of it myself, but how you explained it, and then your age, I just put 2 and 2 together ;)

Anyway, they're two cheap throw away jokes. Don't overthink them.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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Thread title needs to be changed. It's not a "fight" if you don't actually fight back. Particularly if you're a hulking beast of a man, and the bloke whomping you is a diminutive little chap.

I suggest renaming it to "EMASCULATION! EMASCULATION! EMASCULATION!" but I'm open to other suggestions from the bored faithful.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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No fighting is safe. But if you think it's safer to stand up and bang than you're either a moron or have no idea what you're talking about. I'm assuming a mix of both.

Mid-life crisis coping mechanisms. :lol: Nice little dig there you prick. It's not a mid-life crisis coping mechanism. It's simply that I'm giving up rugby and want to do something that remains physical and challenging and keeps me fit and flexible. And hey ... if that actually is my "mid life crisis coping mechanism", f-ck it, I could be doing a lot worse than hard, challenging physical activity. So sit and spin buddy.


I've never said standing up and fighting is sensible, it's demonstrably not. What I think is that fights on the street are generally not one on one, or in my experience are not. Being on the ground is not a safe place, particularly if you're the only one down there and there's more than one person around and involved. It's pretty logical. I've a small bit of fighting experience, and I don't fancy getting any more. I don't really fancy getting in another discussion about it here, because I don't really care.

On the other thread you said you wanted to learn BJJ so you'd be better in a fight, which is it? Nothing wrong with physical activity, I'm a fan of it myself, but how you explained it, and then your age, I just put 2 and 2 together ;)

Anyway, they're two cheap throw away jokes. Don't overthink them.


Dude that is just not what I said. I repeatedly gave the same reason as above with the bonus that, "if I could keep up the bjj and boxing for a few years it would probably be pretty handy if I ever found myself in a scrap". That's all and it all kicked off from there with a bunch of alleged fighting experts trying to argue that years of training and sparring in fighting won't help you in a fight. It was just retarded. Then when that BS got called out they went to this multiple attackers with weapons argument. And I've been consistently saying sure, against multiple armed psychos you're going to be fůcked up. With the only caveat that even then, fight training will still be better than no training. And also that really, most fights (Nakis is pretty typical) are not against multiple armed assailants unless you're part of the criminal underworld or something. Sure it can be in a mugging or whatever, but still it's one on one more often than not.

If you don't care fine. But don't talk shit and make it sound like Ive been saying shit I haven't. Reason from post #1 was a challenging replacement for rugby, fitness, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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Probably wires crossed as usually happens.

Important thing is that you're enjoying it though :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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The prat...rear ending you then going off like that. Glad you're ok ... youre probably thinking did that really happen, or was it a scene from a Taika Waititi movie. I'd report it to Police if I was you...prats like that could twist the whole incident. Were there any CCTV cameras nearby. Might be worth looking into. When you're rear ended, the other guy has little to no defence...yeah....book him!


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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I had a fight once where a guy charged up to fight me. I gave ground a few times, then tackled him. I did this because at the time I thought he had big hands and was bigger (fatter it turned out) and didn't want to make a mistake and get KOed. It was probably tactically wrong over all but felt right at the time. His friends quickly circled round. Luckily I wasn't alone my friends told them not to get involved. We rolled and in a few seconds I was in the mounted position. He pulls the jumper I am wearing over my head, and bites my arm on the bicep, through my jumper and wont let go. I am thinking that while a hole is going to suck, my head is still intact. Luckily he lets go after about 10 seconds of gnawing, I guess because I didn't react. His face close to mine, he is threatening me with everything. 'I am a trained UFC fighter, I better let go or else.' I say nothing at all. No ones moving till the cops arrive, that's all I know. The dude thrashes wildly twice to get away but I got him and feel more relaxed. 3rd time he thrashes I realise I have f**ked up and over balanced and we roll again. We end up in an even better position for me , I get his back, lying on my back and sink the choke. I don't apply any pressure on it at all, my elbow is under his chin, and I've got hooks on him and as a restraint position its magic. Cops turn up, and I let him go. He rushes straight to them and starts moaning about how I attacked him.
Luckily the plum fought with them a minute later and spat in one of their faces.

I wiped the floor with his lawyer in court.
£500 compensation for the bite :)

The way BJJ helps most in a fight is you are never stuck for a plan. Plans might not work, but you have them. It worked well for me.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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He kicked you in the shin, get over it. Last fight I had the bloke decked me 3 times and really gave me a hiding. No big deal, one day I'll king hit the cvnt.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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He kicked you in the shin, get over it. Last fight I had the bloke decked me 3 times and really gave me a hiding. No big deal, one day I'll king hit the cvnt.


Was this before you joined the bored? Could be more useful evidence for the "concussions can cause severe brain injury later in life" research teams.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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Has anyone ever seen a boxer* in a street fight? It's quite extraordinary to see actually.

An actual boxer, not a bloke who thinks he can box.


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 Post subject: Re: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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I had a fight once where a guy charged up to fight me. I gave ground a few times, then tackled him. I did this because at the time I thought he had big hands and was bigger (fatter it turned out) and didn't want to make a mistake and get KOed. It was probably tactically wrong over all but felt right at the time. His friends quickly circled round. Luckily I wasn't alone my friends told them not to get involved. We rolled and in a few seconds I was in the mounted position. He pulls the jumper I am wearing over my head, and bites my arm on the bicep, through my jumper and wont let go. I am thinking that while a hole is going to suck, my head is still intact. Luckily he lets go after about 10 seconds of gnawing, I guess because I didn't react. His face close to mine, he is threatening me with everything. 'I am a trained UFC fighter, I better let go or else.' I say nothing at all. No ones moving till the cops arrive, that's all I know. The dude thrashes wildly twice to get away but I got him and feel more relaxed. 3rd time he thrashes I realise I have f**ked up and over balanced and we roll again. We end up in an even better position for me , I get his back, lying on my back and sink the choke. I don't apply any pressure on it at all, my elbow is under his chin, and I've got hooks on him and as a restraint position its magic. Cops turn up, and I let him go. He rushes straight to them and starts moaning about how I attacked him.
Luckily the plum fought with them a minute later and spat in one of their faces.

I wiped the floor with his lawyer in court.
£500 compensation for the bite :)

The way BJJ helps most in a fight is you are never stuck for a plan. Plans might not work, but you have them. It worked well for me.


but, but, but ... chances of having a fight are very thin, "never" happens actually... so, how boring is it to train big time to get enough skills for something that will never happen ?

I mean, rugby is fun to play, i mean, it's a "game"... but kravmaga, or other stuff... seriously, where's the fun ? So, how to you get in a boring shit like that ? Isn't your job boring enough that you need to bore the shit of yourself after work ?

real question here.


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Has anyone ever seen a boxer* in a street fight? It's quite extraordinary to see actually.

An actual boxer, not a bloke who thinks he can box.


so tell us more now...


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He kicked you in the shin, get over it. Last fight I had the bloke decked me 3 times and really gave me a hiding. No big deal, one day I'll king hit the cvnt.


Was this before you joined the bored? Could be more useful evidence for the "concussions can cause severe brain injury later in life" research teams.

That rules you out coz you first need a brain to qualify.


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He kicked you in the shin, get over it. Last fight I had the bloke decked me 3 times and really gave me a hiding. No big deal, one day I'll king hit the cvnt.


what happened after the 3rd time ?


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jolindien wrote:
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He kicked you in the shin, get over it. Last fight I had the bloke decked me 3 times and really gave me a hiding. No big deal, one day I'll king hit the cvnt.


what happened after the 3rd time ?

I jumped the fence.


Nah . It got broken up.


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CrazyIslander wrote:
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He kicked you in the shin, get over it. Last fight I had the bloke decked me 3 times and really gave me a hiding. No big deal, one day I'll king hit the cvnt.


what happened after the 3rd time ?

I jumped the fence.


Nah . It got broken up.


ah. You mean someone switched off the playstation ?


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If he was Singaporean, and you an expat, you would have been f**ked if you had touched him.

Singaporeans are untouchables there.


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jolindien wrote:
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He kicked you in the shin, get over it. Last fight I had the bloke decked me 3 times and really gave me a hiding. No big deal, one day I'll king hit the cvnt.


what happened after the 3rd time ?

I jumped the fence.


Nah . It got broken up.


ah. You mean someone switched off the playstation ?

It felt like someone was pumping the punch button hard on the other controller.


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That's also been discussed a lot. We all agree, if that's a possibility it's by far the best option.

It's all hypothetical man-talk anyway really. Let's hope that none of us are ever in a situation where any of this discussion becomes relevant.


I don't mind copping a beating but running? I am not sure I can anymore and i'd look incredibly silly doing it


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jolindien wrote:
Chips wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a boxer* in a street fight? It's quite extraordinary to see actually.

An actual boxer, not a bloke who thinks he can box.


so tell us more now...



You have to see it to believe it really but boxers are like supermen. The pissed up bloke wind milling towards the boxer literally won't get near to hitting the boxer. Their economy of movement is also seriously impressive, just footwork and head movement then if he he feels like it, the boxer can hit the non-boxer with just light jabs that will devastate him.

It certainly straightens the aggressor up sharpish.


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If he was Singaporean, and you an expat, you would have been f**ked if you had touched him.

Singaporeans are untouchables there.


he actually touched him, with his shin and his hair. Is he in trouble ?


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CrazyIslander wrote:
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He kicked you in the shin, get over it. Last fight I had the bloke decked me 3 times and really gave me a hiding. No big deal, one day I'll king hit the cvnt.


what happened after the 3rd time ?

I jumped the fence.


Nah . It got broken up.


ah. You mean someone switched off the playstation ?

It felt like someone was pumping the punch button hard on the other controller.


and what was the subject of the fight ?


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it could've been worse...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... D=ref_fark


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Chips wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a boxer* in a street fight? It's quite extraordinary to see actually.

An actual boxer, not a bloke who thinks he can box.


Yeah, when I was at high school there was this bloke who had been boxing since he was like 10. He did alright at amateur level, but didn't really take it any further. Saw him get in a few fights and they all went exactly the same - he'd wait for the other guy to swing first, step to the side and unload a 3 or 4 punch combo in their face. Fight over.


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I haven't been in a proper fight in ages. I think the last one was in Melbourne when a group of guys on a Buck's Night stormed into my rugby team's favourite drinking hole and started shit. It was crazy. Dude's getting glassed etc. I remember the pub owner casually saying to me "Here Thommo, catch this and get stuck in..." and throwing a sawn off pool cue in my direction. Fark that noise.

I've always adopted the "batshit crazy" method of fighting. I learned in my teens that you don't have to throw a punch to win a fight. You just have to look like, if given the chance, you'll eat an ear or nose if it pops into your field of vision.


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Naki like you I am also a shit driver but I would always apologise if I spooked another driver by slamming on the brakes like that. Also you mention his language difficulties. Is that because you are a straight up racialist? I am not a racialist so being shit drivers is where our brotherhood ends.


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I haven't been in a proper fight in ages. I think the last one was in Melbourne when a group of guys on a Buck's Night stormed into my rugby team's favourite drinking hole and started shit. It was crazy. Dude's getting glassed etc. I remember the pub owner casually saying to me "Here Thommo, catch this and get stuck in..." and throwing a sawn off pool cue in my direction. Fark that noise.

I've always adopted the "batshit crazy" method of fighting. I learned in my teens that you don't have to throw a punch to win a fight. You just have to look like, if given the chance, you'll eat an ear or nose if it pops into your field of vision.


I don't think I've been in a proper fight since I was in my 20's. I can't fight for shit, but apparently I can take a punch pretty well. My Homer Simpson like ability to be punched and shrug it off has worked brilliantly a couple of times when I've been punched in the back of the head and then made the assailant back off by turning around and laughing at them - my thinking being that I wouldn't want to fight some nutter who did that to me.


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I haven't been in a proper fight in ages. I think the last one was in Melbourne when a group of guys on a Buck's Night stormed into my rugby team's favourite drinking hole and started shit. It was crazy. Dude's getting glassed etc. I remember the pub owner casually saying to me "Here Thommo, catch this and get stuck in..." and throwing a sawn off pool cue in my direction. Fark that noise.

I've always adopted the "batshit crazy" method of fighting. I learned in my teens that you don't have to throw a punch to win a fight. You just have to look like, if given the chance, you'll eat an ear or nose if it pops into your field of vision.


I don't think I've been in a proper fight since I was in my 20's. I can't fight for shit, but apparently I can take a punch pretty well. My Homer Simpson like ability to be punched and shrug it off has worked brilliantly a couple of times when I've been punched in the back of the head and then made the assailant back off by turning around and laughing at them - my thinking being that I wouldn't want to fight some nutter who did that to me.


I've got a glass jaw/head/body so I can't take a punch.

The last set-to I was in I diffused by stripping to my underwear screaming "LET'S FARKEN GO! YEEEEUW. TIME TO DANCE MOTHERFUCKERS!" I found out that no one wants to fight a drunken bald dude in his undies. It worked for me. The guys backed off saying "Your mate is crazy, man. He's crazy..." to my buddies.


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Always the short fucks too. Got into a scrap with some cretin at a petrol station about ten years ago. Guy was a midget, couldn't take him seriously. Felt like I was about to scrap with a stubbled faced toddler.

Next time it happens just shit on his face.


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Thomas that method is called being poisonous. If you can't out muscle them, then make sure they dont fancy a bite even if they think they'll win.


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Always the short fucks too. Got into a scrap with some cretin at a petrol station about ten years ago. Guy was a midget, couldn't take him seriously. Felt like I was about to scrap with a stubbled faced toddler.

Next time it happens just shit on his face.


A mate of mine got into a brawl with 4 midgets at a McDonalds about 10 years ago. He was stoned out of his mind and must have said something to them and they all took offence. Reckons it was like something out of a movie. He's 6'7 so had them crawling on him like little foul-mouthed parasites.


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Chips wrote:
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Has anyone ever seen a boxer* in a street fight? It's quite extraordinary to see actually.

An actual boxer, not a bloke who thinks he can box.


so tell us more now...



You have to see it to believe it really but boxers are like supermen. The pissed up bloke wind milling towards the boxer literally won't get near to hitting the boxer. Their economy of movement is also seriously impressive, just footwork and head movement then if he he feels like it, the boxer can hit the non-boxer with just light jabs that will devastate him.

It certainly straightens the aggressor up sharpish.


I have seen a very good boxer do that to 3-4 drunks at a pub in Nelson on New Year's eve.


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How many BJJ guys have actually trained on concrete /asphalt etc? Ground fighting on a mat is completely different. Throw in someone who can gouge eyes, bite, grab ya balls etc and its not BJJ now, add a weapon ie rock, bottle, knife, stick and its another level again.

Still if someone is fronting up and you give clear verbal and physical instructions that they should not come closer and you do this twice and back away there is no third time you have a reasonable right to flatten them. I would suggest that knocking them to the ground so that their head doesn't hit first is a good idea. You want to hurt him not necessarily kill him.


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kiwinoz wrote:
How many BJJ guys have actually trained on concrete /asphalt etc? Ground fighting on a mat is completely different. Throw in someone who can gouge eyes, bite, grab ya balls etc and its not BJJ now, add a weapon ie rock, bottle, knife, stick and its another level again.
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This is why I train in gunfighting and knife-boxing.


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kiwinoz wrote:
How many BJJ guys have actually trained on concrete /asphalt etc? Ground fighting on a mat is completely different. Throw in someone who can gouge eyes, bite, grab ya balls etc and its not BJJ now, add a weapon ie rock, bottle, knife, stick and its another level again.

Still if someone is fronting up and you give clear verbal and physical instructions that they should not come closer and you do this twice and back away there is no third time you have a reasonable right to flatten them. I would suggest that knocking them to the ground so that their head doesn't hit first is a good idea. You want to hurt him not necessarily kill him.


:lol: Life isn't a Bruce Lee movie mate.


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naki wrote:

Not looking forward to going over the CCTV footage. I’m guessing the fake-out shin kick is going to be so telegraphed they’re going to ask why I didn’t block it :blush:


CCTV footage is never good, because no matter how good you think things went in your head, it looks ridiculous on CCTV.

Some twat hit me with a bottle in a pub years ago (and his scumbag mate stabbed me soon after), I thought I put up a half decent defence. After viewing the CCTV I was sadly very wrong.



Jaysus, sounds like Tramco in the good old days.


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