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Who:
Rebels v. Reds

Where:
AAMI Park

When:
Friday: 6:45 pm

Stasi:
Referee: Brendon Pickerill (New Zealand)
Assistant referees: Nicholas Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
Television match official: Ian Smith (Australia)


Rebels:

Tetera Faulkner
Jordan Uelese
Jermaine Ainsley
Matt Philip
Adam Coleman (c)
Lopeti Timani
Angus Cottrell
Amanaki Mafi
Will Genia
Jack Debreczeni
Sefa Naivalu
Reece Hodge
Tom English (vc)
Jack Maddocks
Dane Haylett-Petty

Reserves:

Anaru Rangi
Fereti Sa’aga
Sam Talakai
Sam Jeffries
Ross Haylett-Petty
Michael Ruru
Semisi Tupou
Billy Meakes


Reds:
1. James Slipper – Bond University
2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa – Sunnybank (Queensland/Super Rugby debut)
3. Taniela Tupou – Brothers
4. Izack Rodda – Easts
5. Lukhan Tui – Souths
6. Caleb Timu – Souths
7. Adam Korczyk – University of Queensland
8. Scott Higginbotham (C) - Wests
9. James Tuttle – GPS
10. Jono Lance – University of Queensland
11. Eto Nabuli – GPS
12. Duncan Paia’aua – Norths
13. Samu Kerevi - Souths
14. Chris Feauai-Sautia – Souths
15. Aidan Toua – Easts

16. Alex Mafi – Bond University
17. JP Smith – GPS (potential Queensland debut)
18. Sef Fa’agase – University of Queensland
19. Kane Douglas – Norths
20. Liam Wright – Easts (potential Queensland/Super Rugby debut)
21. Tate McDermott – University of Queensland (potential Queensland/Super Rugby debut)
22. Hamish Stewart – Bond University
23. Filipo Daugunu – Wests (potential Queensland/Super Rugby debut)

Both teams have looked rubbish in pre-season, so anyone's game. Rebels should be favourites due to home advantage and a squad with huge depth, but with a donkey like Debra directing them, who knows?

Reds squad is the worst in memory IMO, as is their draw for the 1st 6 weeks. Might get a plucky win if Thorn gets them sticking to the basics.

Bit of a cripple fight this one.

It’s Debras time......

Not happy if Jack D gets to wear no 10 but maybe he'll prove us wrong. Maybe it was McGahan that was holding him back and is a different player under Wessels. Hoping Rebels by 7

Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Zakar wrote:Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Not sure about English. I'd probably chuck Meakes there. Ratu? Koroibete?

Perese gone for 6 weeks. Rodda, Smith also broken

Possibly:

Slipper
Paenga-Amosa (seems to have jumped ahed of Ready)
Tupou
Douglas
Tui
Timu
Korczyk
Higgers
Tuttle
Lance
Daugunu
Paia'aua
Kerevi
CFS
Toua

CrazyIslander wrote:

Zakar wrote:Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Not sure about English. I'd probably chuck Meakes there. Ratu? Koroibete?

Meaks, Koro and Maddocks crocked.

CrazyIslander wrote:

Zakar wrote:Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Not sure about English. I'd probably chuck Meakes there. Ratu? Koroibete?

English is a good player and won't disapppoint. Not sure who the better player is between English and Meakes.

Bindi wrote:Perese gone for 6 weeks. Rodda, Smith also broken

Possibly:

Slipper
Paenga-Amosa (seems to have jumped ahed of Ready)
Tupou
Douglas
Tui
Timu
Korczyk
Higgers
Tuttle
Lance
Daugunu
Paia'aua
Kerevi
CFS
Toua

Is Corechick much of a 7?

Zakar wrote:

Bindi wrote:Perese gone for 6 weeks. Rodda, Smith also broken

Possibly:

Slipper
Paenga-Amosa (seems to have jumped ahed of Ready)
Tupou
Douglas
Tui
Timu
Korczyk
Higgers
Tuttle
Lance
Daugunu
Paia'aua
Kerevi
CFS
Toua

Is Corechick much of a 7?

Not really.

Zakar wrote:

CrazyIslander wrote:

Zakar wrote:Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Not sure about English. I'd probably chuck Meakes there. Ratu? Koroibete?

Meaks, Koro and Maddocks crocked.

Ok.
Regardless, the improvement to the Rebels this year on paper alone is enormous. Easy win to the home side.

I think Rebels pack will have the upperhand. Apparntly they were on top of Tahs pack in the first hafl (when they had close to a full strength team).

Zakar wrote:

CrazyIslander wrote:

Zakar wrote:Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Not sure about English. I'd probably chuck Meakes there. Ratu? Koroibete?

Meaks, Koro and Maddocks crocked.

Korobiete should be in back in a couple of weeks. Didn't know Maddocks was injured. What happened to him? It explains why Jack D ran at 10 instead of Maddock. I'd have still gone with Horwitz or Taylor Adams instead of Jack D but Wessels obviously thinks Jack D can get the backline to spark.

What's Meaks' injury?

TranceNRG wrote:

Zakar wrote:

CrazyIslander wrote:

Zakar wrote:Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Not sure about English. I'd probably chuck Meakes there. Ratu? Koroibete?

Meaks, Koro and Maddocks crocked.

Korobiete should be in back in a couple of weeks. Didn't know Maddocks was injured. What happened to him? It explains why Jack D ran at 10 instead of Maddock. I'd have still gone with Horwitz or Taylor Adams instead of Jack D but Wessels obviously thinks Jack D can get the backline to spark.

What's Meaks' injury?

I think they all are quite minor injures, couple of weeks at most. Maddocks had a hamstring tweak, Meeks had off season surgery and will be back soon I think.

Maybe Jack D was picked to ease tension in the group so it's not a total Force take over.

CrazyIslander wrote:Maybe Jack D was picked to ease tension in the group so it's not a total Force take over.

Ex Force players only make up 1/3 of the squad but it won't stop people having a go at Rebels. When they signed Wessels it was inevitable that he brought a lot of his former players with him.

Personally I'd have gone with Horwitz or Taylor Adams (since Maddocks is injured) but I trust Wessels' judgement.

TranceNRG wrote:

CrazyIslander wrote:

Zakar wrote:Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Not sure about English. I'd probably chuck Meakes there. Ratu? Koroibete?

English is a good player and won't disapppoint. Not sure who the better player is between English and Meakes.

English's best is better than Meakes', altho' English has a touch of the Morahans about him as regards inconsistency.

MungoMan wrote:

TranceNRG wrote:

CrazyIslander wrote:

Zakar wrote:Likely teams?

I've heard rebs backline likely to be

9. Genia
10. Debs
11. Sefa
12. Hodge
13. English
14. Ratu
15. Dhp

Not sure about English. I'd probably chuck Meakes there. Ratu? Koroibete?

English is a good player and won't disapppoint. Not sure who the better player is between English and Meakes.

English's best is better than Meakes', altho' English has a touch of the Morahans about him as regards inconsistency.

Yeah I agree.

TranceNRG wrote:

CrazyIslander wrote:Maybe Jack D was picked to ease tension in the group so it's not a total Force take over.

Ex Force players only make up 1/3 of the squad but it won't stop people having a go at Rebels. When they signed Wessels it was inevitable that he brought a lot of his former players with him.

Personally I'd have gone with Horwitz or Taylor Adams (since Maddocks is injured) but I trust Wessels' judgement.

That's a significant number considering it wasn't a merger. Plus Coleman capt and Wessels coach.

Will be interesting to see how the Rebels have gelled with all of the new players into the squad.

I will have to barrack for the Reds in Australian derbys this season - purely on account of Thorn and the fact they have some exciting up and coming players.

Shrekles wrote:I will have to barrack for the Reds in Australian derbys this season - purely on account of Thorn and the fact they have some exciting up and coming players.

It's a shame to see Perese recently injured. I wonder how Hamish Stewart will go?

Shrekles wrote:I will have to barrack for the Reds in Australian derbys this season - purely on account of Thorn and the fact they have some exciting up and coming players.

Put it like this: you will not be fighting for space on the bandwagon. We welcome newcomers but, concerned folk that we are, we usually enquire as regards their state of mind...

Melbourne Rebels vs Queensland Reds at AAMI Park
Referee: Brendon Pickerill (New Zealand)
Assistant referees: Nicholas Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
Television match official: Ian Smith (Australia)

MungoMan wrote:

Shrekles wrote:I will have to barrack for the Reds in Australian derbys this season - purely on account of Thorn and the fact they have some exciting up and coming players.

Put it like this: you will not be fighting for space on the bandwagon. We welcome newcomers but, concerned folk that we are, we usually enquire as regards their state of mind...

Well, it's like this. I like the yin and the yang of having a main, successful, team and a secondary, loser, team.

Melbourne Rebels team for Friday 23 February

Tetera Faulkner
Jordan Uelese
Jermaine Ainsley
Matt Philip
Adam Coleman (c)
Lopeti Timani
Angus Cottrell
Amanaki Mafi
Will Genia
Jack Debreczeni
Sefa Naivalu
Reece Hodge
Tom English (vc)
Jack Maddocks
Dane Haylett-Petty
Reserves:

Anaru Rangi
Fereti Sa’aga
Sam Talakai
Sam Jeffries
Ross Haylett-Petty
Michael Ruru
Semisi Tupou
Billy Meakes

Let's hope that Jack D is better in this game than he was in the recent trial, because he was awful in that.

I'm talking standing-10m-out-from-your-own-line-and-attempting-mini-chip-kick-over-the-backline-but-into-the-arms-of-the-oncoming-winger...type awful

My secondary, loser, team is gonna tear them Rebel scum new arseholes!

ElementFreak wrote:Melbourne Rebels team for Friday 23 February

Tetera Faulkner
Jordan Uelese
Jermaine Ainsley
Matt Philip
Adam Coleman (c)
Lopeti Timani
Angus Cottrell
Amanaki Mafi
Will Genia
Jack Debreczeni
Sefa Naivalu
Reece Hodge
Tom English (vc)
Jack Maddocks
Dane Haylett-Petty
Reserves:

Anaru Rangi
Fereti Sa’aga
Sam Talakai
Sam Jeffries
Ross Haylett-Petty
Michael Ruru
Semisi Tupou
Billy Meakes

10 Internaionals? Shameful if the don’t put 50 on the hapless Reds

Reds

: 1. James Slipper, 2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa 3. Taniela Tupou 4. Izack Rodda5 Lukhan Tui 6. Caleb Timu 7. Adam Korczyk 8. Scott Higginbotham (c) 9. James Tuttle 10. Jono Lance 11. Eto Nabuli 12. Duncan Paia’aua 13. Samu Kerevi 14. Chris Feauai-Sautia 15. Aidan Toua Reserves: 16. Alex Mafi 17. JP Smith 18. Sef Fa’agase 19. Kane Douglas 20. Liam Wright 21. Tate McDermott 22. Hamish Stewart 23. Filipo Daugunu

Both teams naming a big backrow. New trend?

Bindi wrote:

ElementFreak wrote:Melbourne Rebels team for Friday 23 February

Tetera Faulkner
Jordan Uelese
Jermaine Ainsley
Matt Philip
Adam Coleman (c)
Lopeti Timani
Angus Cottrell
Amanaki Mafi
Will Genia
Jack Debreczeni
Sefa Naivalu
Reece Hodge
Tom English (vc)
Jack Maddocks
Dane Haylett-Petty
Reserves:

Anaru Rangi
Fereti Sa’aga
Sam Talakai
Sam Jeffries
Ross Haylett-Petty
Michael Ruru
Semisi Tupou
Billy Meakes

10 Internaionals? Shameful if the don’t put 50 on the hapless Reds

If you count Meakes who made the Wallaby squad (did he actually play?) then there is 11.

And I see the Reds have 10 internationals, with the addition of Korczyk and Lance who made the Wallaby squad.

1. James Slipper, 2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa 3. Taniela Tupou 4. Izack Rodda 5 Lukhan Tui 6. Caleb Timu 7. Adam Korczyk 8. Scott Higginbotham (c) 9. James Tuttle 10. Jono Lance 11. Eto Nabuli 12. Duncan Paia’aua 13. Samu Kerevi 14. Chris Feauai-Sautia 15. Aidan Toua Reserves: 16. Alex Mafi 17. JP Smith 18. Sef Fa’agase 19. Kane Douglas 20. Liam Wright 21. Tate McDermott 22. Hamish Stewart 23. Filipo Daugunu

So very even teams, with maybe the slight nod to the Reds.

That Lukhan Tui lad is the bomb.

Didn’t go to the right school so got missed on the way up. Looking good right now though.

Head to head

Slipper over Ainsley
Ulese overy BPA
Faulkner over TT
Coleman over Rodda
Tui over Phillip
Timu Timani even
Corechick Cottrell even
Tui over Higgenbotham
Genia over Tuttle
Lance over Debra
Sefa over Naboli by a metric shitton
Hodge over Dunc
Kerevi over English
CFS over Maddocks
DHP over Hamstrings

I make it Reds 5, Rebels 7

Zakar wrote:Head to head

Slipper over Ainsley
Ulese overy BPA
Faulkner over TT
Coleman over Rodda
Tui over Phillip
Timu Timani even
Corechick Cottrell even
Tui over Higgenbotham
Genia over Tuttle
Lance over Debra
Sefa over Naboli by a metric shitton
Hodge over Dunc
Kerevi over English
CFS over Maddocks
DHP over Hamstrings


I make it Reds 5, Rebels 7

Jaysus, you’d have to hoping to be able to pick that one.


Not sure about the CFS one though.

shanky wrote:

Zakar wrote:Head to head

Slipper over Ainsley
Ulese overy BPA
Faulkner over TT
Coleman over Rodda
Tui over Phillip
Timu Timani even
Corechick Cottrell even
Tui over Higgenbotham
Genia over Tuttle
Lance over Debra
Sefa over Naboli by a metric shitton
Hodge over Dunc
Kerevi over English
CFS over Maddocks
DHP over Hamstrings


I make it Reds 5, Rebels 7

Jaysus, you’d have to hoping to be able to pick that one.


Not sure about the CFS one though.

Brumbies fan know hamstrings well. He has two modes of attack

1. Gets ball, puts on a good move and makes tackler miss. Gets taken down and loses the ball in contact.
2. Gets ball, puts on a good move and makes tackler miss. Takes off in open field, tears hamstring.

CFS actually looked good in the NRC, hopefully it finally comes right for him. Maddocks has a ton of promise, I expect 15 is his natural position though. A similar player to Joride Barrett. One would hope anyway.

3. Shanks simple clearing kick

shanky wrote:3. Shanks simple clearing kick

TBF to the man, he seems to know he can't kick now...which leads him right back to trying 1. Better winger than a fullback IMO.

Zakar wrote:

shanky wrote:3. Shanks simple clearing kick

TBF to the man, he seems to know he can't kick now...which leads him right back to trying 1. Better winger than a fullback IMO.