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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:49 pm 
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There's definitely some ingrained institutional racism against Maori & pacific islanders in cricket that I've seen perpetuated at club level at the very least. That image of "they aren't good at concentrating over long periods" - i.e. heavily implying they're lazy or won't put the work in - seems to follow them around, regardless of their work ethic. A number of top quality players are ultimately lost to the game as a result.

That's why it annoys me when people who should know better continue to use those stereotypes in normal conversation.

I also wonder why the treatment of Ross Taylor, given his immense value to NZC and his position as one of NZ's best has been consistently shabbier than some of his peers.

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Eric Rush on Sports Cafe stated the very fact. How many Maori/PI play cricket and make it through to higher honours? Murphy Su'a, Adam Parore, D.Tuff...now Rosco. Poorly worded maybe but not inaccurate.


Jesse Ryder too.
Heath Te-Ihi-O-Te-Rangi Davis


He of the worst first over in test cricket.


And Tuffey delivered the worst first over in ODI cricket . I'm sensing a trend here.


Bloody Maoris...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:27 pm 
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Seriously, who f^cken cares?

Let people play the sport they want to play - and then pick the best people for rep teams.


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Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:
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There's definitely some ingrained institutional racism against Maori & pacific islanders in cricket that I've seen perpetuated at club level at the very least. That image of "they aren't good at concentrating over long periods" - i.e. heavily implying they're lazy or won't put the work in - seems to follow them around, regardless of their work ethic. A number of top quality players are ultimately lost to the game as a result.

That's why it annoys me when people who should know better continue to use those stereotypes in normal conversation.

I also wonder why the treatment of Ross Taylor, given his immense value to NZC and his position as one of NZ's best has been consistently shabbier than some of his peers.

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Eric Rush on Sports Cafe stated the very fact. How many Maori/PI play cricket and make it through to higher honours? Murphy Su'a, Adam Parore, D.Tuff...now Rosco. Poorly worded maybe but not inaccurate.


Jesse Ryder too.
Heath Te-Ihi-O-Te-Rangi Davis


He of the worst first over in test cricket.


And Tuffey delivered the worst first over in ODI cricket . I'm sensing a trend here.


Bloody Maoris...


So what you are saying is that optimal Polynesian concentration time is somewhere in the middle.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:57 pm 
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:uhoh: :yawn: Take your race preciousness elsewhere.


No one was forcing you to defend Martin Crowe's honour either, dude.


I was sure joe punter making such a sensitive claim about perceived racism must have been unaware of their close to father/son relationship.


I was aware, which is why I said I was sure he wasn't offended. Nor was I btw, it was harmless but I don't really see how making jokes about how another language sounds funny isn't a wee bit racist.

I'm not actually criticising Crowe, or Cumming for that matter - it's more a WTF, than actually being offended.

For reference, I made a joke about Asians eating cats the other day which was wayyyyyy more racist than saying Tuisi, Tuisi.

Sorry but whaaat, it’s done all the time, quite often on tv or live in front of large audiences, quite often it’s very funny too. There’s been one particularly funny skit doing the rounds about two Scottish bloke in a voice activated elevator, trying but failing miserably to get it to work...racist bastards :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:32 pm 
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The Samoan Maori who arguably shouldn't even be in the team due to concentration issues has been confirmed ruled out due to a quadricep injury.

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NZC have confirmed Taylor's absence. Here's what they had to say: "Taylor, who has been battling a quadricep injury from the previous match, was only able to run at 70 percent without discomfort while taking a fitness examination this morning. After discussion between Taylor and medical staff, a joint decision was made that he would not be able to play in the deciding match and would be at high risk of significantly aggravating the injury ahead of the upcoming Test series."


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:33 pm 
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The 5th ODI kicks off in Christchurch in about 25 minutes.

Ross Taylor and Jason Roy both out.

England has won the toss and will bowl.


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I'd prefer NZ chasing. I think we lose thepblot a bit trying to work out what a good total is. Munro aims for 500 with 7 runs off 3 balls and then out. Williamson then comes in and scores 8 off 30.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:51 pm 
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Re: the polynesian thing in cricket.

I think it is a cultural/upbringing thing. If the game is big in your upbringing, you'll be into it. If not, it won't.

I am of samoan-heritage but I spent my formative years in Perth, WA (Australia) and cricket was a regular part of my life. After school, during school, hell even at parties we'd get the cricket bat and ball out and play drunken cricket. There are cricket nets at every local "oval" (local park) in the vicinity. There were 4 just within walking distance of my last house. As a result, I was hooked on the game and even went down to the nets by myself to practice my bowling. When I moved back to NZ, I found that cricket was nowhere the done thing among my family or in the wider Samoan community (except for Kilikiti during summer; and only then for the church teams but it wasn't a regular "go down to the local park and play kilikiti" type thing). Touch rugby (or even full tackle "touch" rugby) was the regular thing to do on social occasions. The cricket infrastructure in Auckland is also really poor. I went from 4 local parks with cricket nets within 10-20mins walk in Perth to 1 park with a cricket net nearly 10kms away (40min walk) in Manurewa, Auckland.


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Re: the polynesian thing in cricket.

I think it is a cultural/upbringing thing. If the game is big in your upbringing, you'll be into it. If not, it won't.

I am of samoan-heritage but I spent my formative years in Perth, WA (Australia) and cricket was a regular part of my life. After school, during school, hell even at parties we'd get the cricket bat and ball out and play drunken cricket. There are cricket nets at every local "oval" (local park) in the vicinity. There were 4 just within walking distance of my last house. As a result, I was hooked on the game and even went down to the nets by myself to practice my bowling. When I moved back to NZ, I found that cricket was nowhere the done thing among my family or in the wider Samoan community (except for Kilikiti during summer; and only then for the church teams; it wasn't a regular "go down to the local park and play kilikiti" type thing). Touch rugby (or even full tackle "touch" rugby) was the regular thing to do on social occasions. The cricket infrastructure in Auckland is also really poor. I went from 4 local parks with cricket nets within 10-20mins walk in Perth to 1 park with a cricket net nearly 10kms away (40min walk) in Manurewa, Auckland.

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Most of the local parks here in Perth are actually laid out in ovals too. AFL in winter, cricket in summer. I dropped a friend off in the northern suburbs last week and drove past a succession of ovals on the way. It's a marked difference, you can see it from the air flying into any Australian city.


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Can we please have multiple pages about Mark Champan's Chinese heritage?

I wonder if he is good at piano and maths.


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Most of the local parks here in Perth are actually laid out in ovals too. AFL in winter, cricket in summer. I dropped a friend off in the northern suburbs last week and drove past a succession of ovals on the way. It's a marked difference, you can see it from the air flying into any Australian city.


Yep, that's where I lived (greenwood). There are cricket nets everywhere. :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:00 pm 
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Why does Sky TV always notify us about the yellow button alternative commentary when there nothing on it?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:01 pm 
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Can we please have multiple pages about Mark Champan's Chinese heritage?

I wonder if he is good at piano and maths.


Never mind, that how come he's not still in jail for murdering John Lennon?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:02 pm 
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Shot Munro


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:04 pm 
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Who didn't see that coming?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:05 pm 
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FFS :x


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Bloody Munro, he's having a shocker


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Shot Munro

Shot Lennon to be fair.


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I don't like the look of this.

Bowling well should be considered cheating.


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My fridge is calling to me and there's no Mrs around to look on disapprovingly.

My will power is wavering it must be said.


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My fridge is calling to me and there's no Mrs around to look on disapprovingly.

My will power is wavering it must be said.


It's ten past eleven ffs :lol:


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My fridge is calling to me and there's no Mrs around to look on disapprovingly.

My will power is wavering it must be said.


It's ten past eleven ffs :lol:

Saturday though.


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My fridge is calling to me and there's no Mrs around to look on disapprovingly.

My will power is wavering it must be said.


It's ten past eleven ffs :lol:

The best way to get rid of a temptation is to succumb to it. :nod:


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J Man wrote:
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My fridge is calling to me and there's no Mrs around to look on disapprovingly.

My will power is wavering it must be said.


It's ten past eleven ffs :lol:



Pubs are open, then.


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J Man wrote:
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My fridge is calling to me and there's no Mrs around to look on disapprovingly.

My will power is wavering it must be said.


It's ten past eleven ffs :lol:


:lol: :D

I'll give it till 12


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:20 pm 
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How good is a proper sized ground!

I actually enjoy seeing batsmen having to work.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:24 pm 
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How good is a proper sized ground!

I actually enjoy seeing batsmen having to work.


They can actually run threes


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Guppy showing some application. Is he showing he has two modes. If mode one doesn't work then mode two.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:43 pm 
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Shit - Kane goes - Now we have Ross coming in eh? ... Oh shit


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We'll be lucky to make triple figures at this rate. :(


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Doh. Not looking good


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May not bother with this one.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:50 pm 
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Taylor padded up, what's going on there?


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We don't need to panic! Run rate is slow but you can make that up later as long as you have wickets in hand.


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Not Taylor, chapman. Hopefully he'll bat like Taylor as much he looks like him with my bung eye.


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badmannotinjapan wrote:
We don't need to panic! Run rate is slow but you can make that up later as long as you have wickets in hand.


The England team pre 2016 called. They want their tactic back.


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That was soft :?


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Doomed.


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Congrats England.


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