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Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:04 am
by SecretAgentMan
BBB wrote:Suck on that WASP!
Yeah, fuck you WASP!

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:05 am
by Kiwias
Sandstorm wrote:Woakes chokes
:lol: :lol:

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:06 am
by puku
Worth staying up to 3 AM for.

Taylor and Latham laid the platform.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:07 am
by merlin the happy pig
brat wrote::lol:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times. :P

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:07 am
by The Native
Hell of a game. More "lead" changes than the Landers vs Blues.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:08 am
by Tehui
SecretAgentMan wrote: Can't see us getting close from here. All out for 260.
Good call.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:09 am
by Marshall Banana
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote::lol:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times. :P
:lol:

That's a very good comparison.

I think Santa was 2 off his first 9. Then he just went bonkers.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:09 am
by Mr Mike
puku wrote:Worth staying up to 3 AM for.
Bless You ESPN

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:10 am
by Kiwias
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote::lol:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times. :P
Good call indeed.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:12 am
by brat
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote::lol:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times. :P
Yeh he kind of reminds me of Vettori being languid and ungamely but a bigger hitter

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:18 am
by Kiwias
brat wrote:
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote::lol:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times. :P
Yeh he kind of reminds me of Vettori being languid and ungamely but a bigger hitter
Ungamely is an interesting word. I assume it means non-sporting. Perhaps you were thinking of ungainly. :lol:

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:22 am
by brat
Kiwias wrote:
brat wrote:
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote::lol:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times. :P
Yeh he kind of reminds me of Vettori being languid and ungamely but a bigger hitter
Ungamely is an interesting word. I assume it means non-sporting. Perhaps you were thinking of ungainly. :lol:
:lol: yep that was the word I was looking for..been a long week

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:44 am
by SecretAgentMan
Tehui wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote: Can't see us getting close from here. All out for 260.
Good call.
Always happy to be proved wrong. ;)

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:51 am
by mr bungle
Marshall Banana wrote:
merlin the happy pig wrote:
brat wrote::lol:

Fuk I thought Santner had blown it when he pissed around initially
He's channeling Chris Harris. Look for all the world like you've never held a bat for your first 20 deliveries, the bring it home with some ridiculous shots when all seems lost.

Good times. :P
:lol:

That's a very good comparison.

I think Santa was 2 off his first 9. Then he just went bonkers.
1 off 11? Then 44 off next 16. :thumbup:

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:31 pm
by Enzedder
ScarfaceClaw wrote:I didn’t at all give it up 15 overs ago. I always believed.

Same here - I went to bed cos I was tired, eh Guv

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:50 pm
by deadduck
Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:52 pm
by Kiwias
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing
:)
http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/
Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.
Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:31 am
by SecretAgentMan
Kiwias wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing
:)
http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/
Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.
Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?
He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:49 am
by deadduck
I guess you guys just glossed over the "under pressure" part of the question.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:54 am
by Kiwias
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing
:)
http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/
Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.
Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?
He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.
It was a "Life of Brian" question. ;)

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:02 am
by akann
deadduck wrote:I guess you guys just glossed over the "under pressure" part of the question.
Agreed. Corey Anderson can also be accused of this imo. Seems to go missing under pressure and against the big teams. Having said that, I would stick with both Colin and Corey when he gets back, and hope that they eventually come right. I say this simply because they provide the power hitting that is needed in the middle/lower order. When chasing 300+ scores, big hitting is needed to chase those totals down.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:03 am
by Shrekles
Kiwias wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:Has Colin de Grandhomme ever delivered under pressure?
Nicholls needs more contributions too. At the moment it seems you can immediately write those two off when the innings needs rescuing
:)
http://lastwordoncricket.com/2018/01/16 ... o-victory/
Colin de Grandhomme has played the innings of his life to help New Zealand secure a fourth straight victory over Pakistan as the home side got home with five wickets to spare.

With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure following the dismissal of his captain. After the game, Nicholls said his whole mindset was to build partnerships with the batsmen joining him.
Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?
He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.
It was a "Life of Brian" question. ;)
I tried three times to post an 'aqueduct' response but gave up after all the whiteouts.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:32 am
by SecretAgentMan
Kiwias wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?
He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.
It was a "Life of Brian" question. ;)
Ah right...I was, er, distracted by a loud whooshing sound passing overhead. :roll: :blush:

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:57 am
by True Blue
Munro averages over 50 in first class cricket, so hopefully they try and build him into a test player. He's 30 though, not sure what the hold up is.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:10 am
by mrbrownstone
True Blue wrote:Munro averages over 50 in first class cricket, so hopefully they try and build him into a test player. He's 30 though, not sure what the hold up is.
Surely after his form this summer he should get a look in. He's already taken McCullum's role at the top of the order, so no reason he couldn't take his #5 spot in tests too.

Although having said that, Nicholls' test form has been steadily improving recently (though still not where it needs to be), and the selectors have shown they're reluctant to drop him. I imagine his 100 against SA last year + 67 in the recent WI series will have bought him some leeway for now.

Can't really see a lineup of:

5. Munro
6. de Grandhomme

either. And given de Grandhomme has 2 50s and a 100 in his last 4 innings, he's not getting dropped in a hurry.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:37 am
by deadduck
guy smiley wrote:
deadduck wrote:I guess you guys just glossed over the "under pressure" part of the question.
With New Zealand in trouble, de Grandhomme smashed a half-century off just 25 balls to bat his side into a winning position. Alongside Henry Nicholls; the pair saw New Zealand home, notching up a match-winning partnership.

Nicholls himself also went past fifty in his most important innings yet, staying at the crease under immense pressure
nope.
He came in with 110 to get with 15 overs to go and 5 wickets in hand. Chasing that successfully should be expected at least 50% of the time.
It doesn't do enough to make up for all the non contributions

How many of the tri series games did we lose because our late middle order folded like a house of cards?

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:47 am
by badmannotinjapan
True Blue wrote:Munro averages over 50 in first class cricket, so hopefully they try and build him into a test player. He's 30 though, not sure what the hold up is.
Wasn't MicHuss in his early 30s when he cracked the Aussie side?

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:10 am
by Kiwias
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:Yes, well, apart from that, what has de Grandhomme ever done for the BCs?
He took 6/41 on test debut, and scored the fastest ever maiden test hundred. He also scored 74* in an ODI against Pakistan as recently as mid-January, after he returned from Zimbabwe following the death of his father. But apart from that, nothing much.
It was a "Life of Brian" question. ;)
Ah right...I was, er, distracted by a loud whooshing sound passing overhead. :roll: :blush:
:lol:

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:01 am
by mrbrownstone
Kane's in doubt for tomorrow's game.
Black Caps captain Kane Williamson is in doubt for Wednesday's ODI against England with a hamstring injury.

Batsman Mark Chapman has been called into the squad as cover.

NZ coach Mike Hesson said Williamson had a "mild hamstring strain" and was "day to day".

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/1 ... st-england
Would be a massive blow obviously, but it mightn't be the worst thing long-term. He's looked a bit out of sorts recently, and a game or two off to refresh could be for the best. Chapman showed glimpses of promise in the T20s, and I'm interested to see what he can do with a bit more time.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:33 am
by SecretAgentMan
2nd ODI kicks off in Mt Maunganui in about 25 minutes.

England has won the toss and will bowl.

Williamson out, replaced by Mark Chapman on his ODI debut.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:08 am
by ovalball
Munro goes early to woakes.

Looks like a nice pitch though - should be a high scoring game

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:12 am
by Boil up
Any links please?

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:13 am
by SecretAgentMan

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:13 am
by Kiwias

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:17 am
by ovalball
9/2 as Woakes end Chapman's nervy debut. Good catch from Willey.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:18 am
by SecretAgentMan
ovalball wrote:9/2 as Woakes end Chapman's nervy debut. Good catch from Willey.
It was a good catch.

We'll be lucky to reach triple figures at this rate. :(

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:23 am
by Kiwias
SecretAgentMan wrote:
ovalball wrote:9/2 as Woakes end Chapman's nervy debut. Good catch from Willey.
It was a good catch.

We'll be lucky to reach triple figures at this rate. :(
Oh ye of little faith

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:24 am
by SecretAgentMan
Kiwias wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
ovalball wrote:9/2 as Woakes end Chapman's nervy debut. Good catch from Willey.
It was a good catch.

We'll be lucky to reach triple figures at this rate. :(
Oh ye of little faith
We're doomed, I tells ya! DOOMED!!

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:27 am
by Kiwias
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
ovalball wrote:9/2 as Woakes end Chapman's nervy debut. Good catch from Willey.
It was a good catch.

We'll be lucky to reach triple figures at this rate. :(
Oh ye of little faith
We're doomed, I tells ya! DOOMED!!
You'll never be a true Black Caps' fan at this rate.

Re: NZ vs England - ODI Series

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:30 am
by ovalball
SecretAgentMan wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
ovalball wrote:9/2 as Woakes end Chapman's nervy debut. Good catch from Willey.
It was a good catch.

We'll be lucky to reach triple figures at this rate. :(
Oh ye of little faith
We're doomed, I tells ya! DOOMED!!
Plenty of batting to come and it is a good pitch - I still expect a competitive target. Just have to work much harder for it now - and it means you have to find a few extra runs to make up for the slow start.

Back to back boundaries from Guppers gets the scoreboard moving 21/2 six overs in.