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Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:14 am
by handyman
Listen, and understand. David Warner is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:42 am
by brat
Funny thing is we all say it’s poor behaviour superficially but deep down love that the aussies are involved in yet another scuffle to compliment our deep seated opinion that the Aussie are the nasty enemies when it comes to cricket ..does make for great banter at least

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:30 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
I don’t mind Little Davey at all.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:35 pm
by rett
blackblackblack wrote:The thing thatgets me is that The Aussie team is comprised of some of the most outrageously talented players, they are streets ahead of most teams they play. So much so that I don't think they even need to indulge in the mindgames. The hypocrisy of spouting on about the spirit of cricket then behaving as they do is so unabashed in it's hypocrisy the only analogy I could imagine would be the co presenter of the best actress award at the oscars standing behind the actress presenting the award speaking about metoo and times up, while he stands close behind nodding sagely, all the while rubbing himself up against her arse. They don't need to do it but dive in anyway, which indicates some sort of perverse pleasure at the offensive nature of their behaviour. Asking for the stump mike (a channel Naan innovation BTW) to be turned down then acting like spoiled children when it wasn't until it eventually was so they could go on their merry way. Symptomatic of their nation at large. Needlessly, but self indulgently twattish.

“Symptomatic of their nation at large.”
Mmmm.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:36 pm
by OupaStruisbaai
Full marks to de Kock. :thumbup: Now he must produce with the bat.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:24 pm
by Rinkals
OomPB wrote:Full marks to de Kock. :thumbup: Now he must produce with the bat.
I must admit, I wouldn't make a comment to Warner about his wife and SBW, so he's got balls, I'll give him that.

By all accounts, de Kock is quite an amiable character, a lot more likely to be talking himself down than picking fights with anybody, so one has to assume that he was seriously rattled by whatever Warner said about his mother and his sister. I've met his sister and she's a lot larger than he is, I can tell you. A lot larger than Davie Warner is, too.

Having said that, this little fracas apparently occurred at the tea interval and de Kock was still unbeaten at stumps, so it may have been what he needed to motivate himself out of his form slump.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:53 pm
by houtkabouter
Rinkals wrote:
OomPB wrote:Full marks to de Kock. :thumbup: Now he must produce with the bat.
I must admit, I wouldn't make a comment to Warner about his wife and SBW, so he's got balls, I'll give him that.

By all accounts, de Kock is quite an amiable character, a lot more likely to be talking himself down than picking fights with anybody, so one has to assume that he was seriously rattled by whatever Warner said about his mother and his sister. I've met his sister and she's a lot larger than he is, I can tell you. A lot larger than Davie Warner is, too.

Having said that, this little fracas apparently occurred at the tea interval and de Kock was still unbeaten at stumps, so it may have been what he needed to motivate himself out of his form slump.
Why, do you have weak ankles?

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:55 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Rinkals wrote:
OomPB wrote:Full marks to de Kock. :thumbup: Now he must produce with the bat.
I must admit, I wouldn't make a comment to Warner about his wife and SBW, so he's got balls, I'll give him that.

By all accounts, de Kock is quite an amiable character, a lot more likely to be talking himself down than picking fights with anybody, so one has to assume that he was seriously rattled by whatever Warner said about his mother and his sister. I've met his sister and she's a lot larger than he is, I can tell you. A lot larger than Davie Warner is, too.

Having said that, this little fracas apparently occurred at the tea interval and de Kock was still unbeaten at stumps, so it may have been what he needed to motivate himself out of his form slump.

De Kock is no "sook", then. Good.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:16 pm
by saffer13
Thomas wrote:
“I think you guys are well aware that I cop it left, right and centre, especially off the field from spectators. I am used to that and it doesn’t bother me," Warner said.

"But in the proximity of my personal space and behind me, a comment that was vile and disgusting and about my wife and just in general about a lady, was quite poor I felt. My emotional response, you saw, was just (to) something that I don’t believe should have been said. And as I said, I will always stick up for my family. And in that case, my teammates as well.

"I’ve always felt that when it comes to family or racism comments or anything like that, that’s just a no-go zone. I’ve been called everything under the sun out the field and that, quite frankly, doesn’t bother me"
What a fantastic victim card :lol:

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:17 pm
by Rinkals
houtkabouter wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
OomPB wrote:Full marks to de Kock. :thumbup: Now he must produce with the bat.
I must admit, I wouldn't make a comment to Warner about his wife and SBW, so he's got balls, I'll give him that.

By all accounts, de Kock is quite an amiable character, a lot more likely to be talking himself down than picking fights with anybody, so one has to assume that he was seriously rattled by whatever Warner said about his mother and his sister. I've met his sister and she's a lot larger than he is, I can tell you. A lot larger than Davie Warner is, too.

Having said that, this little fracas apparently occurred at the tea interval and de Kock was still unbeaten at stumps, so it may have been what he needed to motivate himself out of his form slump.
Why, do you have weak ankles?
I'm a peacable, chap, Houts. I'm sure you've noticed. :nod:

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:22 pm
by Rinkals
My understanding of the exchange regarding Warner's use of the term "sook" is that de Kock was trying to get the umpires to intervene without success.

The term 'sook' is a mispronunciation of the word 'suck', as in someone who 'sucks up to' a person in authority. Basic kindergarten 101.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:28 pm
by Rinkals
guy smiley wrote:
Rinkals wrote:My understanding of the exchange regarding Warner's use of the term "sook" is that de Kock was trying to get the umpires to intervene without success.

The term 'sook' is a mispronunciation of the word 'suck', as in someone who 'sucks up to' a person in authority. Basic kindergarten 101.

A 'sook' in Australia and NZ is a crybaby.
Which supports my understanding of the exchange.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:30 pm
by handyman
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Sook.
1.
a person lacking spirit or self-confidence.
2.
a hand-reared calf.
Bloody good sledge, I must admit ...
FYI.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:32 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Well, Quintin tried to solve the problem, it seems. Only the umps were having none of it - apparently. Pity he had to play too rough, for the man to face, but he was provoked .

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:40 pm
by sorCrer
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:lol:

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:16 pm
by saffer13
Love it. If only I was more confident of our team being competitive in this match though...just to add some teeth behind the bark so to speak.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:36 am
by odd144
Big day is here, Davey the Reverend, the saint, saviour of the innocent, the family defender, is gonna hurt my team with actions and words :(( .

COME ON PROTEAS...mostly need to win this test, so it doesn't become another one sided series.

Conditions: Dry and abrasive pitch hmmm, reverse swing for big bad Starc (Warne didn't think so a few years back) and Lyon(also not rated 5 years ago) tearing through the frightened Proteas!

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:01 am
by JB1981
odd144 wrote:Big day is here, Davey the Reverend, the saint, saviour of the innocent, the family defender, is gonna hurt my team with actions and words
This seems appropriate here but I am not sure what/who Davey is. Thoughts?
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:36 am
by DraadkarD
Rinkals wrote:My understanding of the exchange regarding Warner's use of the term "sook" is that de Kock was trying to get the umpires to intervene without success.

The term 'sook' is a mispronunciation of the word 'suck', as in someone who 'sucks up to' a person in authority. Basic kindergarten 101.
So Warner het ge"sook" vir kak?




































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Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:44 am
by odd144

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:55 am
by Rinkals

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:18 am
by Thomas
This is a good read. Someone has broken down the conduct breaches and penalties per country in the last couple of years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/commen ... ies_since/

To break it down, here are the number of deducted demerit points for each country:

AFG: 12
AUS: 5
BAN: 9
ENG: 4
IND: 7
IRE: 0
NZ: 0
PAK: 0
SA: 11
SL: 13
WI: 6
ZIM: 5

Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and South Africa are the worst. NZ, Ireland and Pakistan the best. I think a number of SA's points come from ball tampering (Fluff De Plesis) and being a rabid dickhead (Rabada). India's points come from 2 players (Jadeja running on the wicket and piffing the ball at a player and Kohli acting like a dickhead). Interesting to see that the evil doers of world cricket (Australia) have less than half the demerit points of SA.

Also, that Sri Lanka and Afghanistan are angry bastards.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:24 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Thomas wrote:NZ.... the best.

Spiritual Guardianship is strong in this one.


(fukkin Haddin is a c*nt)

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:38 am
by odd144
Thomas wrote:This is a good read. Someone has broken down the conduct breaches and penalties per country in the last couple of years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/commen ... ies_since/

To break it down, here are the number of deducted demerit points for each country:

AFG: 12
AUS: 5
BAN: 9
ENG: 4
IND: 7
IRE: 0
NZ: 0
PAK: 0
SA: 11
SL: 13
WI: 6
ZIM: 5

Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and South Africa are the worst. NZ, Ireland and Pakistan the best. I think a number of SA's points come from ball tampering (Fluff De Plesis) and being a rabid dickhead (Rabada). India's points come from 2 players (Jadeja running on the wicket and piffing the ball at a player and Kohli acting like a dickhead). Interesting to see that the evil doers of world cricket (Australia) have less than half the demerit points of SA.

Also, that Sri Lanka and Afghanistan are angry bastards.
Lies and statistics, what type of demerits, I would hazard a guess but I would think mental desegregation is not the reason for many of the demerits, South Africas is for "sweet gate" and over exuberance when a player gets out(Rabada).

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:50 am
by Rinkals
Thomas wrote:This is a good read. Someone has broken down the conduct breaches and penalties per country in the last couple of years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/commen ... ies_since/

To break it down, here are the number of deducted demerit points for each country:

AFG: 12
AUS: 5
BAN: 9
ENG: 4
IND: 7
IRE: 0
NZ: 0
PAK: 0
SA: 11
SL: 13
WI: 6
ZIM: 5

Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and South Africa are the worst. NZ, Ireland and Pakistan the best. I think a number of SA's points come from ball tampering (Fluff De Plesis) and being a rabid dickhead (Rabada). India's points come from 2 players (Jadeja running on the wicket and piffing the ball at a player and Kohli acting like a dickhead). Interesting to see that the evil doers of world cricket (Australia) have less than half the demerit points of SA.

Also, that Sri Lanka and Afghanistan are angry bastards.
Rabada a rabid dickhead?

Ok, right.

To be fair, he did tell Ben Stokes to fuck off, but apart from that he hasn't done much. I think they're trying to break his spirit: after all, he's only fresh out of his teens.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:53 am
by Thomas
Rinkals wrote:
Thomas wrote:This is a good read. Someone has broken down the conduct breaches and penalties per country in the last couple of years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/commen ... ies_since/

To break it down, here are the number of deducted demerit points for each country:

AFG: 12
AUS: 5
BAN: 9
ENG: 4
IND: 7
IRE: 0
NZ: 0
PAK: 0
SA: 11
SL: 13
WI: 6
ZIM: 5

Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and South Africa are the worst. NZ, Ireland and Pakistan the best. I think a number of SA's points come from ball tampering (Fluff De Plesis) and being a rabid dickhead (Rabada). India's points come from 2 players (Jadeja running on the wicket and piffing the ball at a player and Kohli acting like a dickhead). Interesting to see that the evil doers of world cricket (Australia) have less than half the demerit points of SA.

Also, that Sri Lanka and Afghanistan are angry bastards.
Rabada a rabid dickhead?

Ok, right.

To be fair, he did tell Ben Stokes to fuck off, but apart from that he hasn't done much. I think they're trying to break his spirit: after all, he's only fresh out of his teens.
Apart from that incident and the other incidents, yes.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:59 am
by Rinkals
Thomas wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
Thomas wrote:This is a good read. Someone has broken down the conduct breaches and penalties per country in the last couple of years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/commen ... ies_since/

To break it down, here are the number of deducted demerit points for each country:

AFG: 12
AUS: 5
BAN: 9
ENG: 4
IND: 7
IRE: 0
NZ: 0
PAK: 0
SA: 11
SL: 13
WI: 6
ZIM: 5

Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and South Africa are the worst. NZ, Ireland and Pakistan the best. I think a number of SA's points come from ball tampering (Fluff De Plesis) and being a rabid dickhead (Rabada). India's points come from 2 players (Jadeja running on the wicket and piffing the ball at a player and Kohli acting like a dickhead). Interesting to see that the evil doers of world cricket (Australia) have less than half the demerit points of SA.

Also, that Sri Lanka and Afghanistan are angry bastards.
Rabada a rabid dickhead?

Ok, right.

To be fair, he did tell Ben Stokes to fuck off, but apart from that he hasn't done much. I think they're trying to break his spirit: after all, he's only fresh out of his teens.
Apart from that incident and the other incidents, yes.
Which other incidents?

I would suggest that Jimmy Anderson has done far worse and has hardly attracted any censure at all.

Just had a look at his sendoff of Rohit Sharma for which he received his last demerit points and Kohli had also been pretty demonstrative in the same match and received no sanction at all.

I'm not holding up Jimmy Anderson or Kohli as role models: merely pointing out double standards.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:12 am
by Thomas
100%.

Anderson hurled the ball back at Bancroft and hit him in his dick. No sanction...

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:13 am
by Rinkals
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22661328/demerit-points-keeping-kagiso-rabada-quiet-dale-steyn
"One other guy that actually gets involved is KG (Rabada) - he really does get stuck in," Steyn said. "But I think after some of his last few incidents where he got into trouble - he got a ban and a fine and everything like that - he kind of has the handcuffs around him right now, which is a little unfair because if you look at the way some of the Aussies are going about it- and I'm not standing here and complaining, and I hope I don't get a fine for saying that - but you kind of feel that you are taking out our best competitor, especially with that kind of presence, if you take him out of the game, it's like taking a knife to a gunfight really. It's a little bit unfair."

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:24 am
by odd144
Thomas wrote:100%.

Anderson hurled the ball back at Bancroft and hit him in his dick. No sanction...
Maybe Bancroft liked it

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:26 am
by Sandstorm
Very overcast this morning, it’s a terrible toss to lose and be sent in to bat first. :uhoh:

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:28 am
by handyman
Enough of this sh1t, Warner was wrong and he was a dick not to admit it. End of.

Aus with the same team, not sure what SA will do. Ngidi in, but who drops out, Morkel most likely. Don't know if Bavuma is fit, he will replace De Bruyn.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:28 am
by odd144
Sandstorm wrote:Very overcast this morning, it’s a terrible toss to lose and be sent in to bat first. :uhoh:
Bat bat and bat again.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:34 am
by Sandstorm
odd144 wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:Very overcast this morning, it’s a terrible toss to lose and be sent in to bat first. :uhoh:
Bat bat and bat again.
That is kind of the idea with cricket

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:43 am
by handyman
SA to bowl.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:43 am
by Brumby_in_Vic
What is the rain forecast?

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:44 am
by handyman
Big call from SA, Ngidi in for Morkel.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:48 am
by handyman
No white bowler in the team, everyone there on merit. Brilliant.

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:58 am
by Rinkals
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:What is the rain forecast?
I don't think there is any, apart from an early morning coastal drizzle.

Ngidi in for Morkel, which is a bit of a gamble, I feel.

Mind you, at least he hasn't got any demerit points .... yet!

Re: Proteas v Baggy Greens - 4 TEST SERIES Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:19 am
by beachboy
Rinkals wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:What is the rain forecast?
I don't think there is any, apart from an early morning coastal drizzle.

Ngidi in for Morkel, which is a bit of a gamble, I feel.

Mind you, at least he hasn't got any demerit points .... yet!
I am not very knowledgeable w.r.t cricket but would it be because they are not expecting a lot of bounce?