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Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:30 pm
by slick
eldanielfire wrote:
dpedin wrote:OK - the guys who gave the disgusting verbals to Jones deserve to be punished/fined. They probably regret it as we speak and an apology would show they can man up to what they have done. SRU statement covers it for 99.99% of Scottish rugby supporters. However for Jones to single out Berghan and Hastings is just way over the top and I suspect he just doesn't get the rivalry thing between us. Jones is a wind up merchant and if any coach takes things too far at times it is him.

On the Hastings comments - I come across both him and his brother regularly and both are very very passionate Scots however they are both good, honourable guys and Gavin would be horrified with what Jones as implied. He wouldn't necessarily be on my Eggheads team but he does not deserve the Jones accusations.

We Scots don't have many victories like Saturdays to enjoy and year after year have to put up with the patronising and mildly racist and offensive comments about the 'plucky jocks' from the ever infuriating Inverdale, Gassgut and the likes who sit smugly on the BBC
stage having flown up the morning of the game complaining about the cold and the weather and who fly out immediately afterwards. Once again on Saturday we had the 'plucky scot' Nicol perched at the side of the stage almost out of view whilst Inverdale and his buddies warmed up for the steady march of England to the Grand Slam. Thank feck big Paul brought some objectivity to the analysis and focused on what Scotland did well rather than the ongoing 'what is wrong with England' debate!

The problem is most folk south of the border are oblivious to the ongoing, slightly offensive and irritating English parochialism that pisses off most Celts and wonder what all the bother is about when it is raised. Try waiting for the Pro14 rugby results on the BBC on a Friday night and all you get is the Quins and the Leicester results!

Listen the guy had a few verbals thrown at him and didnt enjoy it, it was mild compared to the shit thrown my way last time I wore a kilt down south to a wedding!
Bloody hell, people get frozen out of work, attacked, have racist political and nationalist groups against them and you claim that this is somehow in anyway racist and deserving of any negative feeling. Also WTF? The BBC only shows Pro-14 games domestically and your point about results is just false.
Actually, have you ever been to Scotland?

What the fudge is wrong with you today?

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:30 pm
by Chips
Lorthern Nights wrote:
Chips wrote:
james garner wrote: These lads just look like common garden variety twats, I cant imagine they in anyway represent the typical scottish rugby fan

Do you remember a poster called Jrp? :lol:
He scared you away didn't he petal, glad to see you have discovered your spine and felt it is now safe to return.


Scared away?! :lol: Wee Jock Poo Ploppy McAngry got his mod jock mate to believe I was stalking him offline. Total bollocks of course but repeat a lie on PR about half a dozen times and gullible saps will repeat it half a dozen times more. And so on and so forth.

Still, you believe what makes you feel happy.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:30 pm
by Lorthern Nights
Scrummie wrote:
dpedin wrote:OK - the guys who gave the disgusting verbals to Jones deserve to be punished/fined. They probably regret it as we speak and an apology would show they can man up to what they have done. SRU statement covers it for 99.99% of Scottish rugby supporters. However for Jones to single out Berghan and Hastings is just way over the top and I suspect he just doesn't get the rivalry thing between us. Jones is a wind up merchant and if any coach takes things too far at times it is him.

On the Hastings comments - I come across both him and his brother regularly and both are very very passionate Scots however they are both good, honourable guys and Gavin would be horrified with what Jones as implied. He wouldn't necessarily be on my Eggheads team but he does not deserve the Jones accusations.

We Scots don't have many victories like Saturdays to enjoy and year after year have to put up with the patronising and mildly racist and offensive comments about the 'plucky jocks' from the ever infuriating Inverdale, Gassgut and the likes who sit smugly on the BBC stage having flown up the morning of the game complaining about the cold and the weather and who fly out immediately afterwards. Once again on Saturday we had the 'plucky scot' Nicol perched at the side of the stage almost out of view whilst Inverdale and his buddies warmed up for the steady march of England to the Grand Slam. Thank feck big Paul brought some objectivity to the analysis and focused on what Scotland did well rather have than the ongoing 'what is wrong with England' debate!

The problem is most folk south of the border are oblivious to the ongoing, slightly offensive and irritating English parochialism that pisses off most Celts and wonder what all the bother is about when it is raised. Try waiting for the Pro14 rugby results on the BBC on a Friday night and all you get is the Quins and the Leicester results!

Listen the guy had a few verbals thrown at him and didnt enjoy it, it was mild compared to the shit thrown my way last time I wore a kilt down south to a wedding!
:lol: :lol: racist and offensive. Have a lie down snowflake.
Scrummie wrote:
matta25 wrote:Sounds like similar sort of verbal antics happened during the match itself, he was just behind a glass coaches' box. So not sure how much value there is in saying these cnuts aren't rugby fans.
Heard a lot of nasty stuff at Murrayfield last two times we were there. All the nationalistic centuries of hurt stuff just seems to spill over.
Without a hint of irony but a page apart.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:30 pm
by message #2527204
'Baldy cvnt' is a term of endearment in many parts of Scotland

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:33 pm
by Lorthern Nights
Chips wrote:
Lorthern Nights wrote:
Chips wrote:
james garner wrote: These lads just look like common garden variety twats, I cant imagine they in anyway represent the typical scottish rugby fan

Do you remember a poster called Jrp? :lol:
He scared you away didn't he petal, glad to see you have discovered your spine and felt it is now safe to return.


Scared away?! :lol: Wee Jock Poo Ploppy McAngry got his mod jock mate to believe I was stalking him offline. Total bollocks of course but repeat a lie on PR about half a dozen times and gullible saps will repeat it half a dozen times more. And so on and so forth.

Still, you believe what makes you feel happy.
You ran away from the big bad bully Jerpy as you couldnt stand the heat. You like to dish it out but can't take it, never could.

Dont worry Toga it's only words on a computer screen you can log off anytime it gets a bit too much for you.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:38 pm
by shanky
Lorthern Nights wrote:
Chips wrote:
Lorthern Nights wrote:
Chips wrote:
james garner wrote: These lads just look like common garden variety twats, I cant imagine they in anyway represent the typical scottish rugby fan

Do you remember a poster called Jrp? :lol:
He scared you away didn't he petal, glad to see you have discovered your spine and felt it is now safe to return.


Scared away?! :lol: Wee Jock Poo Ploppy McAngry got his mod jock mate to believe I was stalking him offline. Total bollocks of course but repeat a lie on PR about half a dozen times and gullible saps will repeat it half a dozen times more. And so on and so forth.

Still, you believe what makes you feel happy.
You ran away from the big bad bully Jerpy as you couldnt stand the heat. You like to dish it out but can't take it, never could.

Dont worry Toga it's only words on a computer screen you can log off anytime it gets a bit too much for you.

It’s not my fight or anything, but you did spend many years standing behind jrp shouting ‘come on Cvnt!’ from the back and snickering loyally at his every Fonzie-joke

So, I’d probably STFU if I was you.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:40 pm
by Chips
Lorthern Nights wrote:
Chips wrote:
Lorthern Nights wrote:
Chips wrote:
james garner wrote: These lads just look like common garden variety twats, I cant imagine they in anyway represent the typical scottish rugby fan

Do you remember a poster called Jrp? :lol:
He scared you away didn't he petal, glad to see you have discovered your spine and felt it is now safe to return.


Scared away?! :lol: Wee Jock Poo Ploppy McAngry got his mod jock mate to believe I was stalking him offline. Total bollocks of course but repeat a lie on PR about half a dozen times and gullible saps will repeat it half a dozen times more. And so on and so forth.

Still, you believe what makes you feel happy.
You ran away from the big bad bully Jerpy as you couldnt stand the heat. You like to dish it out but can't take it, never could.

Dont worry Toga it's only words on a computer screen you can log off anytime it gets a bit too much for you.



Jrp was a big bad bully yes. And you were one of his fluffers. Well done.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:40 pm
by Mr Mike
Must have been unsettling for Eddie, and he would have been entirely unprepared for verbal abuse having previously operated in the kindly, restrained and measured environments of Japan and in NZ as Wallaby coach.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:40 pm
by Lorthern Nights
shanky wrote:

It’s not my fight or anything, but you did spend many years standing behind jrp shouting ‘come on Cvnt!’ from the back and snickering loyally at his every Fonzie-joke

So, I’d probably STFU if I was you.
Yeah i never had any run ins with Jerpy :roll:

It was my regular bust ups with Jerpy on the Indy thread that was a contributing factor to him buggering off but you keep pluggin away champ, you're bound to land a blow one of these days.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:42 pm
by Lorthern Nights
Chips wrote:
Jrp was a big bad bully yes. And you were one of his fluffers. Well done.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Aye ok.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:42 pm
by shanky
Lorthern Nights wrote:
shanky wrote:

It’s not my fight or anything, but you did spend many years standing behind jrp shouting ‘come on Cvnt!’ from the back and snickering loyally at his every Fonzie-joke

So, I’d probably STFU if I was you.
Yeah i never had any run ins with Jerpy :roll:

It was my regular bust ups with Jerpy on the Indy thread that was a contributing factor to him buggering off but you keep pluggin away champ, you're bound to land a blow one of these days.

No worries, slugger

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:43 pm
by slick
Just think of the kids.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:43 pm
by slick
Lorthern Nights wrote:
Chips wrote:
Jrp was a big bad bully yes. And you were one of his fluffers. Well done.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Aye ok.
He had to wait for one of his mates to give him that line :lol:

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:45 pm
by Big D
Arseholes are arseholes no matter what country they are from.

In this case the arseholes were Scottish and out of order.

Shouldn't of happened, the wit kant should apologise and get a kick in the baws and move on.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:49 pm
by eldanielfire
slick wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
dpedin wrote:OK - the guys who gave the disgusting verbals to Jones deserve to be punished/fined. They probably regret it as we speak and an apology would show they can man up to what they have done. SRU statement covers it for 99.99% of Scottish rugby supporters. However for Jones to single out Berghan and Hastings is just way over the top and I suspect he just doesn't get the rivalry thing between us. Jones is a wind up merchant and if any coach takes things too far at times it is him.

On the Hastings comments - I come across both him and his brother regularly and both are very very passionate Scots however they are both good, honourable guys and Gavin would be horrified with what Jones as implied. He wouldn't necessarily be on my Eggheads team but he does not deserve the Jones accusations.

We Scots don't have many victories like Saturdays to enjoy and year after year have to put up with the patronising and mildly racist and offensive comments about the 'plucky jocks' from the ever infuriating Inverdale, Gassgut and the likes who sit smugly on the BBC
stage having flown up the morning of the game complaining about the cold and the weather and who fly out immediately afterwards. Once again on Saturday we had the 'plucky scot' Nicol perched at the side of the stage almost out of view whilst Inverdale and his buddies warmed up for the steady march of England to the Grand Slam. Thank feck big Paul brought some objectivity to the analysis and focused on what Scotland did well rather than the ongoing 'what is wrong with England' debate!

The problem is most folk south of the border are oblivious to the ongoing, slightly offensive and irritating English parochialism that pisses off most Celts and wonder what all the bother is about when it is raised. Try waiting for the Pro14 rugby results on the BBC on a Friday night and all you get is the Quins and the Leicester results!

Listen the guy had a few verbals thrown at him and didnt enjoy it, it was mild compared to the shit thrown my way last time I wore a kilt down south to a wedding!
Bloody hell, people get frozen out of work, attacked, have racist political and nationalist groups against them and you claim that this is somehow in anyway racist and deserving of any negative feeling. Also WTF? The BBC only shows Pro-14 games domestically and your point about results is just false.
Actually, have you ever been to Scotland?

What the fudge is wrong with you today?
What has dpedin's post got to do with me going to Scotland?

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:50 pm
by eldanielfire
Lorthern Nights wrote:
shanky wrote:

It’s not my fight or anything, but you did spend many years standing behind jrp shouting ‘come on Cvnt!’ from the back and snickering loyally at his every Fonzie-joke

So, I’d probably STFU if I was you.
Yeah i never had any run ins with Jerpy :roll:

It was my regular bust ups with Jerpy on the Indy thread that was a contributing factor to him buggering off but you keep pluggin away champ, you're bound to land a blow one of these days.
Thinly veiled "I defeated jerpy" post.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:52 pm
by slick
eldanielfire wrote:
slick wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
dpedin wrote:OK - the guys who gave the disgusting verbals to Jones deserve to be punished/fined. They probably regret it as we speak and an apology would show they can man up to what they have done. SRU statement covers it for 99.99% of Scottish rugby supporters. However for Jones to single out Berghan and Hastings is just way over the top and I suspect he just doesn't get the rivalry thing between us. Jones is a wind up merchant and if any coach takes things too far at times it is him.

On the Hastings comments - I come across both him and his brother regularly and both are very very passionate Scots however they are both good, honourable guys and Gavin would be horrified with what Jones as implied. He wouldn't necessarily be on my Eggheads team but he does not deserve the Jones accusations.

We Scots don't have many victories like Saturdays to enjoy and year after year have to put up with the patronising and mildly racist and offensive comments about the 'plucky jocks' from the ever infuriating Inverdale, Gassgut and the likes who sit smugly on the BBC
stage having flown up the morning of the game complaining about the cold and the weather and who fly out immediately afterwards. Once again on Saturday we had the 'plucky scot' Nicol perched at the side of the stage almost out of view whilst Inverdale and his buddies warmed up for the steady march of England to the Grand Slam. Thank feck big Paul brought some objectivity to the analysis and focused on what Scotland did well rather than the ongoing 'what is wrong with England' debate!

The problem is most folk south of the border are oblivious to the ongoing, slightly offensive and irritating English parochialism that pisses off most Celts and wonder what all the bother is about when it is raised. Try waiting for the Pro14 rugby results on the BBC on a Friday night and all you get is the Quins and the Leicester results!

Listen the guy had a few verbals thrown at him and didnt enjoy it, it was mild compared to the shit thrown my way last time I wore a kilt down south to a wedding!
Bloody hell, people get frozen out of work, attacked, have racist political and nationalist groups against them and you claim that this is somehow in anyway racist and deserving of any negative feeling. Also WTF? The BBC only shows Pro-14 games domestically and your point about results is just false.
Actually, have you ever been to Scotland?

What the fudge is wrong with you today?
What has dpedin's post got to do with me going to Scotland?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you are suggesting that this
people get frozen out of work, attacked, have racist political and nationalist groups against them
is what happens to English people in Scotland?

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:57 pm
by dpedin
Lack of self awareness amongst a lot of our English posters is staggering but not unexpected!

There is a reason why most other countries dislike England and love to beat them - whether it is football, rugby or any other sport - and it isn't anything to do with the quality of their team. It is the completely ego centric and patronising behaviour of theirs, a mild 'Brexit like' Johny Foreigner approach to everyone who is not english. It isn't deliberate nor are they conscious of how patronising they come across. There is nothing worse when I'm in France playing golf when a group of loud (they always are!) Estuary English march into the golf club bar and start shouting at the 'staff' for pints of bitter and sending back their steaks until they are 'properly cooked' shouting Garcon to anyone not speaking english! Lack of respect drives me feckin nuts!

This holier than thou attitude was one of the main driving forces behind the creation of the great British Empire. It is also probably why they lost the empire, why the other UK nations want greater autonomy/independence and why 'little england' will probably end up ostracised from the rest of Europe and indeed the Celtic nations.

Good god think I'm going stir crazy in this snow induced entrapment!

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:57 pm
by englishchief
The Gaels and Picts get away with all sorts of racism against English people, it just isn't picked up on in the media. There is an outright hatred of England in those lands, whereas as we welcome them in to our kingdom.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:58 pm
by james garner
Saturnine wrote:
Double wrote:The news won't surprise anyone who's shared a bus, train, stadium, pub, pavement with a group of Scottish, Irish or Welsh fans.

It's strange, because England have a great sporting rivalry with other countries like France and Australia (I'd call the Australia rivalry our biggest, it's certainly the closest-fought), but I've never seen half the bigotry and abusiveness out of either of those sets of fans and you do from a set of celtic rugby supporters on a match day against England. It just seems to be 'accepted'.
Hate to be the one to break it to you, but as you'll see from the examples referenced in my post higher up the page, there are English fans equally capable of such egregious behaviour.

I've been at Twickenham myself when acceptable 'banter' from English fans around me has morphed into "f*cking sheepshagging plum" from a couple who let the side down.

I'm not daft enough to tar all English fans with the same brush, though.
Exactly. I went to Twickenham with my then girlfriend who was Welsh, for a world cup warm up match against Wales, so hardly as important or passionate as a 6 Nations game. This dick behind us realises she is Welsh and starts trying to give her some 'banter', it wasnt funny, just a bit angry and he just came across as a bit of a sad middle aged man, now it wasn't really abusive but was uncalled for. He even said something like 'well you lot would say the same to me'.

I saw Wales v Ireland in the 6 nations in Cardiff, I was sat next to a very angry drunk welsh fella, who kept punching his own leg when Wales did something wrong, and he shouted huge amounts of abuse at one player, strangely it was a Welsh player, I have no idea what Aled Brew had done to offend this guy.

I say it wasn't much fun sitting near either of these 'fans' but I wouldn't typify either My own Nations or Welsh fans based on these experiences.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:58 pm
by duke
dpedin wrote:Lack of self awareness amongst a lot of our English posters is staggering but not unexpected!

There is a reason why most other countries dislike England and love to beat them - whether it is football, rugby or any other sport - and it isn't anything to do with the quality of their team. It is the completely ego centric and patronising behaviour of theirs, a mild 'Brexit like' Johny Foreigner approach to everyone who is not english. It isn't deliberate nor are they conscious of how patronising they come across. There is nothing worse when I'm in France playing golf when a group of loud (they always are!) Estuary English march into the golf club bar and start shouting at the 'staff' for pints of bitter and sending back their steaks until they are 'properly cooked' shouting Garcon to anyone not speaking english! Lack of respect drives me feckin nuts!

This holier than thou attitude was one of the main driving forces behind the creation of the great British Empire. It is also probably why they lost the empire, why the other UK nations want greater autonomy/independence and why 'little england' will probably end up ostracised from the rest of Europe and indeed the Celtic nations.

Good god think I'm going stir crazy in this snow induced entrapment!
Just go for the broad brush...

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:59 pm
by shanky
englishchief wrote:The Gaels and Picts get away with all sorts of racism against English people, it just isn't picked up on in the media. There is an outright hatred of England in those lands, whereas as we welcome them in to our kingdom.
Can someone just ban this fvcking mong already?

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:00 pm
by ManInTheBar
dpedin wrote:Lack of self awareness amongst a lot of our English posters is staggering but not unexpected!

There is a reason why most other countries dislike England and love to beat them - whether it is football, rugby or any other sport - and it isn't anything to do with the quality of their team. It is the completely ego centric and patronising behaviour of theirs, a mild 'Brexit like' Johny Foreigner approach to everyone who is not english. It isn't deliberate nor are they conscious of how patronising they come across. There is nothing worse when I'm in France playing golf when a group of loud (they always are!) Estuary English march into the golf club bar and start shouting at the 'staff' for pints of bitter and sending back their steaks until they are 'properly cooked' shouting Garcon to anyone not speaking english! Lack of respect drives me feckin nuts!

This holier than thou attitude was one of the main driving forces behind the creation of the great British Empire. It is also probably why they lost the empire, why the other UK nations want greater autonomy/independence and why 'little england' will probably end up ostracised from the rest of Europe and indeed the Celtic nations.

Good god think I'm going stir crazy in this snow induced entrapment!
C0ck. This is c0ck.

The resentment of the "celtic nations" towards their neighbours has NOTHING to do with current behaviours of individuals and EVERYTHING to do with the [perceived] power-relationship for the last ?10 Centuries.

The English currently act as a convenient mechanism for blaming life's unfairness (economic, cultural, sporting) on an outside force. We are born to expect fairness and we don't get it. "Celts" have a reason...

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:02 pm
by Chips
dpedin wrote:Lack of self awareness amongst a lot of our English posters is staggering but not unexpected!

There is a reason why most other countries dislike England and love to beat them - whether it is football, rugby or any other sport - and it isn't anything to do with the quality of their team. It is the completely ego centric and patronising behaviour of theirs, a mild 'Brexit like' Johny Foreigner approach to everyone who is not english. It isn't deliberate nor are they conscious of how patronising they come across. There is nothing worse when I'm in France playing golf when a group of loud (they always are!) Estuary English march into the golf club bar and start shouting at the 'staff' for pints of bitter and sending back their steaks until they are 'properly cooked' shouting Garcon to anyone not speaking english! Lack of respect drives me feckin nuts!

This holier than thou attitude was one of the main driving forces behind the creation of the great British Empire. It is also probably why they lost the empire, why the other UK nations want greater autonomy/independence and why 'little england' will probably end up ostracised from the rest of Europe and indeed the Celtic nations.

Good god think I'm going stir crazy in this snow induced entrapment!



Scotland want independence - patriotic, independent, freedom
UK (England) wants independence - xenophobic, racist, isolationist

We get it.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:05 pm
by Chuckles1188
What the fuck has happened to this thread?

Couple of English posters desperate to make the rest of us look like angry gammon types. Wind it in

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:05 pm
by englishchief
I hope Brexit strengthens the ties between the countries of the United Kingdom. The Picts may be hard to win round but the Welsh and Nordies are a great laugh and always welcome. I would love to see a UK rugby team play against Ireland.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:06 pm
by ManInTheBar
Chuckles1188 wrote:What the fuck has happened to this thread?

Couple of English posters desperate to make the rest of us look like angry gammon types. Wind it in
Chap gets assaulted on train because he is associated with English sporting team. Folks providing exculpation (ooh get me).

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:08 pm
by dargotronV.1
englishchief wrote:I hope Brexit strengthens the ties between the countries of the United Kingdom. The Picts may be hard to win round but the Welsh and Nordies are a great laugh and always welcome. I would love to see a UK rugby team play against Ireland.
the plumometer has gone off the charts in this one.

Brexit strengthening ties :lol:

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:10 pm
by englishchief
dargotronV.1 wrote:
englishchief wrote:I hope Brexit strengthens the ties between the countries of the United Kingdom. The Picts may be hard to win round but the Welsh and Nordies are a great laugh and always welcome. I would love to see a UK rugby team play against Ireland.
the plumometer has gone off the charts in this one.

Brexit strengthening ties :lol:
The key word being 'hope'

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:11 pm
by ManInTheBar
dargotronV.1 wrote:
englishchief wrote:I hope Brexit strengthens the ties between the countries of the United Kingdom. The Picts may be hard to win round but the Welsh and Nordies are a great laugh and always welcome. I would love to see a UK rugby team play against Ireland.
the plumometer has gone off the charts in this one.

Brexit strengthening ties :lol:
Agreed

So, who'd make the team currently [attempt to change subject, subtle eh?]

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:12 pm
by Lobby
dpedin wrote:Lack of self awareness amongst some of our Scots and English posters is staggering but not unexpected!
Corrected for you.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:13 pm
by dpedin
duke wrote:
dpedin wrote:Lack of self awareness amongst a lot of our English posters is staggering but not unexpected!

There is a reason why most other countries dislike England and love to beat them - whether it is football, rugby or any other sport - and it isn't anything to do with the quality of their team. It is the completely ego centric and patronising behaviour of theirs, a mild 'Brexit like' Johny Foreigner approach to everyone who is not english. It isn't deliberate nor are they conscious of how patronising they come across. There is nothing worse when I'm in France playing golf when a group of loud (they always are!) Estuary English march into the golf club bar and start shouting at the 'staff' for pints of bitter and sending back their steaks until they are 'properly cooked' shouting Garcon to anyone not speaking english! Lack of respect drives me feckin nuts!

This holier than thou attitude was one of the main driving forces behind the creation of the great British Empire. It is also probably why they lost the empire, why the other UK nations want greater autonomy/independence and why 'little england' will probably end up ostracised from the rest of Europe and indeed the Celtic nations.

Good god think I'm going stir crazy in this snow induced entrapment!
Just go for the broad brush...
Got both hands on it!

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:15 pm
by eldanielfire
slick wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you are suggesting that this
people get frozen out of work, attacked, have racist political and nationalist groups against them
is what happens to English people in Scotland?

No. I'm saying that's genuine racism which is not happening, not the perception Andy Nicole not sitting in the center of the scene is racist. For goodness sake he claimed Gusscott being on TV is racist to Scots FFS!

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:17 pm
by Rugby2023
dpedin wrote:Lack of self awareness amongst a lot of our English posters is staggering but not unexpected!

There is a reason why most other countries dislike England and love to beat them - whether it is football, rugby or any other sport - and it isn't anything to do with the quality of their team. It is the completely ego centric and patronising behaviour of theirs, a mild 'Brexit like' Johny Foreigner approach to everyone who is not english. It isn't deliberate nor are they conscious of how patronising they come across. There is nothing worse when I'm in France playing golf when a group of loud (they always are!) Estuary English march into the golf club bar and start shouting at the 'staff' for pints of bitter and sending back their steaks until they are 'properly cooked' shouting Garcon to anyone not speaking english! Lack of respect drives me feckin nuts!

This holier than thou attitude was one of the main driving forces behind the creation of the great British Empire. It is also probably why they lost the empire, why the other UK nations want greater autonomy/independence and why 'little england' will probably end up ostracised from the rest of Europe and indeed the Celtic nations.

Good god think I'm going stir crazy in this snow induced entrapment!
lol I think you might be

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:22 pm
by BlackMac
What an appalling thread. I think everyone realises that the behaviour witnessed was not normal for rugby fans, and the fact these morons were likely down at a football match says it all. I think we can agree that every nation has its morons and sadly this is what happens when one representing one nation meets a group of others from another.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:23 pm
by bessantj
Raggs wrote:https://twitter.com/danroan/status/969107662729334784

That's got to be intimidating for a guy Eddies age and size, and goes beyond just abuse.
Video is gross and I'm glad that the vast majority of jocks are great people. All that after he was nice enough to bring a team for Scotland to smash as well.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:25 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Rugby2023 wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:Of course it's scummy behaviour, but it's pretty naive of Jones to think he was gonna be able to use public transport without encountering similar issues.
Not really, it's Rugby Union after all, not oikball. One might have expected better tbh, sadly not.
So much this. If they were wendyballers, surprised they even knew who Jones was. If they were rugby "fans" they should be banned from every ground in the UK.

Pondlife.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:25 pm
by ovalball
eldanielfire wrote:
slick wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you are suggesting that this
people get frozen out of work, attacked, have racist political and nationalist groups against them
is what happens to English people in Scotland?

No. I'm saying that's genuine racism which is not happening, not the perception Andy Nicole not sitting in the center of the scene is racist. For goodness sake he claimed Gusscott being on TV is racist to Scots FFS!
His posts/claims are all a bit 'victim mentality'.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:29 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Chuckles1188 wrote:What the fuck has happened to this thread?

Couple of English posters desperate to make the rest of us look like angry gammon types. Wind it in
Typical PR these days. Hijacked by vocal morons. See the US shooting thread.

Re: Eddie Jones suffers abuse on train ride home

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:29 pm
by Saturnine
matta25 wrote:
Scrummie wrote:
dpedin wrote:OK - the guys who gave the disgusting verbals to Jones deserve to be punished/fined. They probably regret it as we speak and an apology would show they can man up to what they have done. SRU statement covers it for 99.99% of Scottish rugby supporters. However for Jones to single out Berghan and Hastings is just way over the top and I suspect he just doesn't get the rivalry thing between us. Jones is a wind up merchant and if any coach takes things too far at times it is him.

On the Hastings comments - I come across both him and his brother regularly and both are very very passionate Scots however they are both good, honourable guys and Gavin would be horrified with what Jones as implied. He wouldn't necessarily be on my Eggheads team but he does not deserve the Jones accusations.

We Scots don't have many victories like Saturdays to enjoy and year after year have to put up with the patronising and mildly racist and offensive comments about the 'plucky jocks' from the ever infuriating Inverdale, Gassgut and the likes who sit smugly on the BBC stage having flown up the morning of the game complaining about the cold and the weather and who fly out immediately afterwards. Once again on Saturday we had the 'plucky scot' Nicol perched at the side of the stage almost out of view whilst Inverdale and his buddies warmed up for the steady march of England to the Grand Slam. Thank feck big Paul brought some objectivity to the analysis and focused on what Scotland did well rather have than the ongoing 'what is wrong with England' debate!

The problem is most folk south of the border are oblivious to the ongoing, slightly offensive and irritating English parochialism that pisses off most Celts and wonder what all the bother is about when it is raised. Try waiting for the Pro14 rugby results on the BBC on a Friday night and all you get is the Quins and the Leicester results!

Listen the guy had a few verbals thrown at him and didnt enjoy it, it was mild compared to the shit thrown my way last time I wore a kilt down south to a wedding!
:lol: :lol: racist and offensive. Have a lie down snowflake.
:lol:
Keep ignoring my question, hypocrite...