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Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:52 pm
by Dobbin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43295134
A man who is critically ill after being exposed to an unknown substance in Wiltshire is a Russian national convicted of spying for Britain, the BBC understands.

Sergei Skripal, who is 66, was granted refuge in the UK following a "spy swap" between the US and Russia in 2010.

He and a woman, 33, were found unconscious on a bench at a shopping centre in Salisbury on Sunday afternoon.

The substance has not been identified.

Police are investigating whether a crime has been committed, following the incident at the Maltings shopping centre.

Col Skripal, who is a retired Russian military intelligence officer, was jailed for 13 years in 2006 for spying for Britain.


He was convicted of passing the identities of Russian intelligence agents working undercover in Europe to the UK's Secret Intelligence Service, MI6.

Russia said Col Skripal had been paid $100,000 for the information, which he had been supplying from the 1990s.

He was one of four prisoners released by Moscow in exchange for 10 US spies in 2010, as part of a swap. Col Skripal was later flown to the UK.

He and the woman, who he knew, are both in intensive care at Salisbury District Hospital.

A number of locations in the city centre were cordoned off and the A&E department was closed as teams in full protective gear used hoses to decontaminate the street.

Neighbours at Sergei Skripal's home in Salisbury say police arrived around 17:00 GMT on Sunday and have been there ever since.

They said he was friendly and in recent years had lost his wife.

Eyewitness Freya Church told the BBC it looked like the two people had taken "something quite strong".

She said: "On the bench there was a couple, an older guy and a younger girl. She was sort of leant in on him, it looked like she had passed out maybe.

"He was doing some strange hand movements, looking up to the sky."

The BBC's security correspondent Gordon Corera said government officials were not commenting about events in Salisbury but that the possibility of an unexplained substance being involved will draw comparisons with the 2006 poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko.

Mr Litvinenko was a former intelligence officer who, an inquiry later said, was probably killed on the orders of Vladimir Putin.

In a statement on Monday evening, Wiltshire Police said the pair had no visible injuries but were found unconscious.

Temporary Assistant Chief Constable Craig Holden said: "Because we are still at the very early stages of the investigation, we are unable to ascertain whether or not a crime has taken place."

It has not been declared a counter-terrorism incident, he added.

The force is appealing for anyone with information to call them immediately on 999, adding officers do not believe there is any risk to the wider public.

Public Health England said its specialists would be joining a "specially-convened group" to consider the Salisbury incident.

What were the charges against Col Skripal?

Col Skripal was convicted of "high treason in the form of espionage" by Moscow's military court in August 2006. He was stripped off all his titles and awards.

He was alleged by the Russian security service (FSB) to have begun working for the British secret services while serving in the army in the 1990s.

He had been passing information classified as state secrets and been paid for the work by MI6, the FSB claimed.

Col Skripal pleaded guilty at his trial and co-operated with investigators, reports said at the time.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:53 pm
by Openside
The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:55 pm
by Dobbin
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔
The ones who spy for us are top notch.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:58 pm
by The Man Without Fear
This sort of thing never happened when Smiley was running The Circus. Once you defected, that was that. Unless a vengeful "close friend" got to you before the exchange was made because you were indirectly responsible for two bullets in his back.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:15 pm
by message #2527204
More likely to be the aftermath of a pub rendezvous with a couple of bottles of Stoli

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:20 pm
by Petej
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔
I thought Vlad is a hero of many far right wingers here and the usa. Western democracies really have been a sleep at the wheel.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:39 pm
by bimboman
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

i thought lots of the lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:49 pm
by Bullettyme
bimboman wrote:
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

i thought lots of the lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends.
Any links for that spectacular statement?

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:52 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
At some level you have to admire the balls on Vlad to do it again so blatantly.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:53 pm
by True Blue
There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:55 pm
by paddyor
ScarfaceClaw wrote:At some level you have to admire the balls on Vlad to do it again so blatantly.
This is no. 15 apparently.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/fro ... .ycX0e6rWx

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:01 pm
by bimboman
Bullettyme wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

i thought lots of the lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends.
Any links for that spectacular statement?

See the post right above it you stupid c unt.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:11 pm
by Bullettyme
bimboman wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

i thought lots of the lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends.
Any links for that spectacular statement?

See the post right above it you stupid c unt.
Sorry here does it say that lefties want to be friends with Vlad and Russia? You complete idiot. Granted you may be well on it at this stage so may be seeing things.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:14 pm
by bimboman
Bullettyme wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

i thought lots of the lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends.
Any links for that spectacular statement?

See the post right above it you stupid c unt.
Sorry here does it say that lefties want to be friends with Vlad and Russia? You complete idiot. Granted you may be well on it at this stage so may be seeing things.

"Here does it say " .....

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:16 pm
by Bullettyme
bimboman wrote: "Here does it say " .....
Are you, of all people on this forum, going to pull someone up on a typo? :lol:

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:32 pm
by iarmhiman
Where is the post that shows "lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends"?

Don't see it myself.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:40 pm
by Bowens
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:42 pm
by True Blue
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.

He's almost certainly more intelligent and experienced in global affairs than you ever will be.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:43 pm
by Bowens
True Blue wrote:
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.

He's almost certainly more intelligent and experienced in global affairs than you ever will be.
More experienced in global affairs. You nailed me there. :lol:

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:52 pm
by FullbackAce
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.
As opposed to trump who comes off like an erudite ?

I see that as one of his(GW's) few good traits.

Certainly tired of rehearsed acting from Politicians these days.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:55 pm
by Bowens
FullbackAce wrote:
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.
As opposed to trump who comes off like an erudite ?

I see that as one of his(GW's) few good traits.

Certainly tired of rehearsed acting from Politicians these days.
The aww shucks Texan thing is an act to camouflage his shortcomings. His family came over on the Mayflower. He's just the idiot son of a former president.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:11 am
by _fatprop
Bowens wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.
As opposed to trump who comes off like an erudite ?

I see that as one of his(GW's) few good traits.

Certainly tired of rehearsed acting from Politicians these days.
The aww shucks Texan thing is an act to camouflage his shortcomings. His family came over on the Mayflower. He's just the idiot son of a former president.
amazed how many apparent utter morons have become US president, who would have thought

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:11 am
by Uthikoloshe
bimboman wrote:
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

i thought lots of the lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends.
Yeah once upon a time. We have all changed sides. Now the right love Assange and Russia isn't a credible threat.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:13 am
by flaggETERNAL
bimboman wrote:
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

i thought lots of the lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends.
Don't know about that. It seems to be the righties I know who admire his "manliness". :?

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:16 am
by Jeff the Bear
flaggETERNAL wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

i thought lots of the lefties on here thought we should welcome the Russians and especially Putin as friends.
Don't know about that. It seems to be the righties I know who admire his "manliness". :?
Yeah, Bimbo, as is his want, has gone way off piste here. Vlad is an alt-right favourite.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:57 am
by FullbackAce
Bowens wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.
As opposed to trump who comes off like an erudite ?

I see that as one of his(GW's) few good traits.

Certainly tired of rehearsed acting from Politicians these days.
The aww shucks Texan thing is an act to camouflage his shortcomings. His family came over on the Mayflower. He's just the idiot son of a former president.
Yea I've read about their history. Say what you want but that family is the real face of America if there's ever been one.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:02 am
by bimboman
:lol:

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:20 am
by Brumbie_Steve
paddyor wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:At some level you have to admire the balls on Vlad to do it again so blatantly.
This is no. 15 apparently.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/fro ... .ycX0e6rWx
Fair chance he chalked up a couple in Fiji as well.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:23 am
by Clogs
Openside wrote:The Russians really are total scum, do they have any redeeming features?? 🤔

They aren't the Australian cricket team?
























Too far? :blush:

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:29 am
by True Blue
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.

He's almost certainly more intelligent and experienced in global affairs than you ever will be.
More experienced in global affairs. You nailed me there. :lol:
Yes, it is certainly outrageous to suggest that a former two term president with a father as a president and from a powerful political family who has met Putin many times......would know more than some guy on a rugby forum.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:30 am
by flaggETERNAL
Brumbie_Steve wrote:
paddyor wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:At some level you have to admire the balls on Vlad to do it again so blatantly.
This is no. 15 apparently.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/fro ... .ycX0e6rWx
Fair chance he chalked up a couple in Fiji as well.
Yep.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:40 am
by SecretAgentMan
flaggETERNAL wrote:
Brumbie_Steve wrote:
paddyor wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:At some level you have to admire the balls on Vlad to do it again so blatantly.
This is no. 15 apparently.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/fro ... .ycX0e6rWx
Fair chance he chalked up a couple in Fiji as well.
Yep.
Do tell...

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:10 am
by Brumbie_Steve
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... amed-beach

The Russian Ambassador was staying at Yatule the weekend the couple went missing. He had two 'assistants' staying with him one of whom was not seen for a day or so. There is also a report that a man in a wetsuit was spotted by a security guard exiting the water in the middle of the night. I did see the car on the side of the road and was there that weekend.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:26 am
by kiwinoz
Yanks are far more subtle. Suicude by bench press, mountain pass accident or robbery. Israel's Mossad are the in your face best. Putin is just like old James Bond assassinations. 2/10 WND

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:34 pm
by Varsity Way
I was listening to BBC Breakfast this morning and a lady who investigates similar incidents said there were at least 14 poisonings last year in the UK in similar circumstances. WTF!!!!

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:37 pm
by fishfoodie
The Beeb had a report at the end of last year, about all the Political assassinations being carried out by the Russians in Turkey. They reckoned the count was a dozen at that stage, just in Turkey !

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:39 pm
by SecretAgentMan
paddyor wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:At some level you have to admire the balls on Vlad to do it again so blatantly.
This is no. 15 apparently.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/fro ... .ycX0e6rWx
Good read, cheers. :thumbup:

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:40 pm
by paddyor
Varsity Way wrote:I was listening to BBC Breakfast this morning and a lady who investigates similar incidents said there were at least 14 poisonings last year in the UK in similar circumstances. WTF!!!!
I think thats from the 00s to now. There's a buzzfeed article further up the thread.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:50 pm
by DragsterDriver
The victim, apparently 4 family members have died in 2 years? Liver failure, car crash etc.

Re: Vlad's at it again

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:27 am
by Bokkom
True Blue wrote:
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:
Bowens wrote:
True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.

Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)

https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.

He's almost certainly more intelligent and experienced in global affairs than you ever will be.
More experienced in global affairs. You nailed me there. :lol:
Yes, it is certainly outrageous to suggest that a former two term president with a father as a president and from a powerful political family who has met Putin many times......would know more than some guy on a rugby forum.
That's Bush the war criminal you're talking about?