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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:37 pm 
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:lol: Yeah, I'm not reading 200 pages of it today. Will do another time. A brief skim sets out that 50% of the arms come from Russia and China. I've no doubt that the US vetting system was a complete crock, and has has been involved since the start.

Not sure what the "wrong side" is in the ME though really. You'd want to flesh that out. And as for "evidence and logic" part of your post, haven't been presented with a) and evidence and b) any logic apart from the discredited "he's winning the war why would he do this". Must just be a coincidence that Ghouta capitulated so soon after the alleged chemical attacks. For me the previous points to the Assad government, a long with the usual Russian obfuscation.

Hypothetically. Let's say Assad gets killed. Who takes over from him??? And would the Western Alliance help rebuild their country??? You don't exactly have a good track record for cleaning up the mess!


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Ah yes, those heady days of 2003 when the entire population of 'The West' came together as one, and without a single murmur of dissent, a word of caution or a moment of thought decided collectively to invade Iraq and therefore ensure that nobody would ever be able to then say a word of criticsm in the future should any other country ever decide to commit horrendous war crimes against civilians.
Great days.


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Ah yes, those heady days of 2003 when the entire population of 'The West' came together as one, and without a single murmur of dissent, a word of caution or a moment of thought decided collectively to invade Iraq and therefore ensure that nobody would ever be able to then say a word of criticsm in the future should any other country ever decide to commit horrendous war crimes against civilians.
Great days.


Speak for yourself. I was on here in 2003 and it was f**king horrible.


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a civilization older than ours.


The Persians ?


Yes.



is it really even older than post "Magna Carta" UK or federal France from the 10th century ?


bimbo does history :lol:


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Relax everyone. The NZ PM is in Europe and having a meeting with the UK, Aus, and Canadian PM about Vlad. With our guidance that pesky commie will be sorted out. Close thread.


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Bowens wrote:
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You're good man. But Syria is on all our radars now, and with smart phones and sociaml media everyone has access to info they didn't necessarily during Iraq 1 & 2. We have seen this movie before.

Is f**king frkightening that people prefer to believe hostile propaganda on FB than their own governemnt. And that they think that fabricated, bullshitting memes somehow give them the 'bigger picture' rather than obfuscating the truth as they are designed to do


FB memes? This is a pretty cliched argument. The people sharing those seem to mostly be Baby Boomers like Taranaki Snapper. I use Twitter to follow some independent media (who probably have better records when fact-checked than some mainstream sources). That's about it. Imagine being a big enough doofus to still trust people like Brian Williams on Syria after all that has transpired in recent years.


Like who?


Mainly TYT network but I watch and read stuff from all different viewpoints. Basically anyone who doesn't shill for corporations.


Haven't seen an awful lot of TYT but I watch a bit of Vice stuff from reporters on the ground in Mosul, Aleppo, Raqqa etc...

I can't speak to the fact checking but in the case of Vice at least are better at simple reporting as opposed to pushing a narrative.


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bimboman wrote:
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The Persians ?


Yes.



It's an obscene comparison if you take the current regimes. And is it really even older than post "Magna Carta" UK or federal France from the 10th century ?


Erm yes, just a little bit older :lol:

Without really delving into the underlying point which was that the Persian people are a bit more civilised than your average Saudi, how exactly is the current saudi regime any less "obscene" than the Persian one?


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Anyway - Vlad cant protect his client regime in the ME and was too scared to even turn on his vaunted missile defenses to protect Syria whilst his Russian trained and equipped allies ended up launching dozens of missiles pointlessly after the strike had finished.


Managed to finally get rid of that pesky stash of Egyptian cotton


Chocolate Covered Cotton?


It is still cotton and cotton is not edible


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Skripals were poisoned by a Western nerve agent. BZ.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/14/russia-sw ... d-in-west/


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I see after begging to be part of the OPCW investigation the Russians are doing their best to undermine its findings and challenge its legitimacy. Which is pretty convenient as they're doing work in Syria at this moment in time too. They're not very subtle, the Russians.


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Skripals were poisoned by a Western nerve agent. BZ.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/14/russia-sw ... d-in-west/


:roll:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/18/opcw-rejects-russian-claims-of-second-salisbury-nerve-agent


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Skripals were poisoned by a Western nerve agent. BZ.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/14/russia-sw ... d-in-west/


No. "Russia claims that...."

And the OPCW say they're full of shit

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... erve-agent

They in fact describe it as a "craven attempt to mislead the international community"

Shame on you for so willingly becoming a shill for such disinformation.


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Bullettyme wrote:
I see after begging to be part of the OPCW investigation the Russians are doing their best to undermine its findings and challenge its legitimacy. Which is pretty convenient as they're doing work in Syria at this moment in time too. They're not very subtle, the Russians.


They are certainly flinging shit all over the place!


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I see after begging to be part of the OPCW investigation the Russians are doing their best to undermine its findings and challenge its legitimacy. Which is pretty convenient as they're doing work in Syria at this moment in time too. They're not very subtle, the Russians.


They are certainly flinging shit all over the place!


They have 24 theories for the Skripal poisoning, all with zero evidence. Then there's this today. It's a very clear attempt at obfuscation and a deliberate muddying of the waters.


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What's considerably more ominous about Russia releasing this disinformation is that it shows yet again how brazen they are.
The Swiss lab (OPCW approved) received the samples, including a control sample of a precursor to BZ - 3Q was used, not BZ itself.
Now, it was not disclosed which labs the OPCW were using, which samples went where, what the controls were, or any other information. Yet Russia were able to apparently point out these specifics - complete with deliberately wrong info - very quickly.


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Bullettyme wrote:
I see after begging to be part of the OPCW investigation the Russians are doing their best to undermine its findings and challenge its legitimacy. Which is pretty convenient as they're doing work in Syria at this moment in time too. They're not very subtle, the Russians.



So the Russians are now owning and subverting a Western (Swiss) independent laboratory ? Wow ...
Should they accept that they (Russia) deal in BZ, a Western nerve agent ?
(which they may, we do not know, do we .... but we will have to take their word, they do not have to PROVE that they anything here ...)
Why suddenly such HUGE concentration of A234 IN IT'S BASE STATE, IN HIGH CONCENTRATIONS which would surely have lead to fatalities ? Was that added on, by the Brits, later ? Quite probably, to make their case ... Why did teh OPCW not report the BZ ? Are they also spinning the narrative ? Seemingly, one suspects ..

Pretty convenient for the UK's narrative bots to suddenly start blaming subversion on Russia. The UK started it, this dance will have to continue to it's logical end (the UK's false flag story, again, imho)

A pretty cheap solution to an embarrassing problem - an out-of-work Russian turned spy, useless and compromised, probably sticking the UK for millions, possibly even blackmailing them ... Kill the bastard, contaminate his samples with A234, and blame Russia ... several flies with one blow.
Ethelred the Unready would have been proud ..


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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
I see after begging to be part of the OPCW investigation the Russians are doing their best to undermine its findings and challenge its legitimacy. Which is pretty convenient as they're doing work in Syria at this moment in time too. They're not very subtle, the Russians.



So the Russians are now owning and subverting a Western (Swiss) independent laboratory ? Wow ...
Should they accept that they (Russia) deal in BZ, a Western nerve agent ?
(which they may, we do not know, do we .... but we will have to take their word, they do not have to PROVE that they anything here ...)
Why suddenly such HUGE concentration of A234 IN IT'S BASE STATE, IN HIGH CONCENTRATIONS which would surely have lead to fatalities ? Was that added on, by the Brits, later ? Quite probably, to make their case ... Why did teh OPCW not report the BZ ? Are they also spinning the narrative ? Seemingly, one suspects ..

Pretty convenient for the UK's narrative bots to suddenly start blaming subversion on Russia. The UK started it, this dance will have to continue to it's logical end (the UK's false flag story, again, imho)

A pretty cheap solution to an embarrassing problem - an out-of-work Russian turned spy, useless and compromised, probably sticking the UK for millions, possibly even blackmailing them ... Kill the bastard, contaminate his samples with A234, and blame Russia ... several flies with one blow.
Ethelred the Unready would have been proud ..


Have a read above and try to comprehend what has been said you conspiracy minded, childishly contrarian halfwit.


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What's considerably more ominous about Russia releasing this disinformation is that it shows yet again how brazen they are.
The Swiss lab (OPCW approved) received the samples, including a control sample of a precursor to BZ - 3Q was used, not BZ itself.
Now, it was not disclosed which labs the OPCW were using, which samples went where, what the controls were, or any other information. Yet Russia were able to apparently point out these specifics - complete with deliberately wrong info - very quickly.



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Minister Sergey Lavrov said Saturday that Moscow received the confidential information from the laboratory in Spiez, Switzerland, that analyzed samples from the site of the March 4 poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter in the English city of Salisbury.

He said the analysis was done at the request of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.


I am waiting with bated breath for the lie to be proved .... TG gave them the argument. Can they use it ? Or is Russia right .... where did they get the report - How did they get it ? Who gave it to them ?

What matters to me is that the narrative is not cut-and-dried Russia poisoned them. There is considerable doubt. Like in other cases involving poisonous stuff ...


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Bullettyme wrote:
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Bullettyme wrote:
I see after begging to be part of the OPCW investigation the Russians are doing their best to undermine its findings and challenge its legitimacy. Which is pretty convenient as they're doing work in Syria at this moment in time too. They're not very subtle, the Russians.



So the Russians are now owning and subverting a Western (Swiss) independent laboratory ? Wow ...
Should they accept that they (Russia) deal in BZ, a Western nerve agent ?
(which they may, we do not know, do we .... but we will have to take their word, they do not have to PROVE that they anything here ...)
Why suddenly such HUGE concentration of A234 IN IT'S BASE STATE, IN HIGH CONCENTRATIONS which would surely have lead to fatalities ? Was that added on, by the Brits, later ? Quite probably, to make their case ... Why did teh OPCW not report the BZ ? Are they also spinning the narrative ? Seemingly, one suspects ..

Pretty convenient for the UK's narrative bots to suddenly start blaming subversion on Russia. The UK started it, this dance will have to continue to it's logical end (the UK's false flag story, again, imho)

A pretty cheap solution to an embarrassing problem - an out-of-work Russian turned spy, useless and compromised, probably sticking the UK for millions, possibly even blackmailing them ... Kill the bastard, contaminate his samples with A234, and blame Russia ... several flies with one blow.
Ethelred the Unready would have been proud ..


Have a read above and try to comprehend what has been said you conspiracy minded, childishly contrarian halfwit.



Ahh. Personal stuff again. Thanks for confirming that you lost the argument.


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You're not arguing anything .


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You're not arguing anything .



No implicated argument ?


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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
What's considerably more ominous about Russia releasing this disinformation is that it shows yet again how brazen they are.
The Swiss lab (OPCW approved) received the samples, including a control sample of a precursor to BZ - 3Q was used, not BZ itself.
Now, it was not disclosed which labs the OPCW were using, which samples went where, what the controls were, or any other information. Yet Russia were able to apparently point out these specifics - complete with deliberately wrong info - very quickly.



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Minister Sergey Lavrov said Saturday that Moscow received the confidential information from the laboratory in Spiez, Switzerland, that analyzed samples from the site of the March 4 poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter in the English city of Salisbury.

He said the analysis was done at the request of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.


I am waiting with bated breath for the lie to be proved .... TG gave them the argument. Can they use it ? Or is Russia right .... where did they get the report - How did they get it ? Who gave it to them ?

What matters to me is that the narrative is not cut-and-dried Russia poisoned them. There is considerable doubt. Like in other cases involving poisonous stuff ...


Read what I wrote above. Look up what a control means in this context, and also what a precursor is.
The Russians have obtained this info through dodgy means, and subverted it for credulous fools to suddenly have an excuse to think it's not so cut and dried.
They've well and truly screwed themselves and the tattered remains of their credibility by this latest stunt.


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A pretty cheap solution to an embarrassing problem - an out-of-work Russian turned spy, useless and compromised, probably sticking the UK for millions, possibly even blackmailing them ... Kill the bastard, contaminate his samples with A234, and blame Russia ... several flies with one blow.
Ethelred the Unready would have been proud ..



You're a f ucking mentalist aren't you ?


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A pretty cheap solution to an embarrassing problem - an out-of-work Russian turned spy, useless and compromised, probably sticking the UK for millions, possibly even blackmailing them ... Kill the bastard, contaminate his samples with A234, and blame Russia ... several flies with one blow.
Ethelred the Unready would have been proud ..



You're a f ucking mentalist aren't you ?

Jesus, I'd stopped reading by that point

What a loon


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Bloody hell - are those mad Russians trying to pin it on him?

How are they linking him in - he didn't even build Salisbury Cathedral...


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Bloody hell - are those mad Russians trying to pin it on him?

How are they linking him in - he didn't even build Salisbury Cathedral...



:lol:


Touchy bunch, on here....


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Think I'll write to our local Russian embassy, inform Putin of this fred, and the bleeding hearts upon it.

Will ask him to instruct his SMERSH people, next time they do an ex-Russian spy, to get a snazzy Rooossian blond and hug the man to death .. the way our Christian UK and US (and Oirish) people would do it ...
At least he will enjoy his death I think....


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Think I'll write to our local Russian embassy, inform Putin of this fred, and the bleeding hearts upon it.

Will ask him to instruct his SMERSH people, next time they do an ex-Russian spy, to get a snazzy Rooossian blond and hug the man to death .. the way our Christian UK and US (and Oirish) people would do it ...
At least he will enjoy his death I think....

I'm not sure which, but you either need to start or stop taking your medication


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Think I'll write to our local Russian embassy, inform Putin of this fred, and the bleeding hearts upon it.

Will ask him to instruct his SMERSH people, next time they do an ex-Russian spy, to get a snazzy Rooossian blond and hug the man to death .. the way our Christian UK and US (and Oirish) people would do it ...
At least he will enjoy his death I think....

I'm not sure which, but you either need to start or stop taking your medication



Calm down. I am bored.
People are too fecking serious on here.


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For those who are so critical of me and my viewpoint(s). Listen to Jimmy Dore, his friend and the Professor (Sachs. a globalist ... )
You do not have to root for Russia to be pissed off at the USA/UK/others' flagrant attempts at overthrowing governments/fomenting evil. This Vlad thing is just another small chapter in the saga.



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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
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Think I'll write to our local Russian embassy, inform Putin of this fred, and the bleeding hearts upon it.

Will ask him to instruct his SMERSH people, next time they do an ex-Russian spy, to get a snazzy Rooossian blond and hug the man to death .. the way our Christian UK and US (and Oirish) people would do it ...
At least he will enjoy his death I think....

I'm not sure which, but you either need to start or stop taking your medication



Calm down. I am bored.
People are too fecking serious on here.


No. By repeating the deliberate misinformation from people willing to unleash chemical weapons you aren't just having a little bit of fun, you're contributing to their crimes.
That's not trolling, it's the mark of a credulous idiot or an evil propagandist - your choice.


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No. By repeating the deliberate misinformation from people willing to unleash chemical weapons you aren't just having a little bit of fun, you're contributing to their crimes.
That's not trolling, it's the mark of a credulous idiot or an evil propagandist - your choice.



I have no dog in that fight. Except truth, the first casualty. I am, was and will remain here in my country, nowhere else, and we are as close to "neutral" as it can be.
By saddling THEIR crimes on ME - you are settling the other side's crimes on YOURSELF ! All of it ...
Stop playing the blame game, YOU are the one fokking around in those war torn countries, YOU are contributing to the breakdown in relations on here, the fact that you were called out before by other posters reflects negatively on you, already.

Listen to what David Owen, notes socialist and former world personality in these things, say about Russia and the West. Amongst others that Trump is the new Reagan ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzr7iJqHu8Q

BTW - the "evil propagandist" hat will fit extremely nicely on YOUR head, mate.


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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:

No. By repeating the deliberate misinformation from people willing to unleash chemical weapons you aren't just having a little bit of fun, you're contributing to their crimes.
That's not trolling, it's the mark of a credulous idiot or an evil propagandist - your choice.



I have no dog in that fight. Except truth, the first casualty. I am, was and will remain here in my country, nowhere else, and we are as close to "neutral" as it can be.
By saddling THEIR crimes on ME - you are settling the other side's crimes on YOURSELF ! All of it ...
Stop playing the blame game, YOU are the one fokking around in those war torn countries, YOU are contributing to the breakdown in relations on here, the fact that you were called out before by other posters reflects negatively on you, already.

Listen to what David Owen, notes socialist and former world personality in these things, say about Russia and the West. Amongst others that Trump is the new Reagan ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzr7iJqHu8Q

BTW - the "evil propagandist" hat will fit extremely nicely on YOUR head, mate.


No. You're the one repeating insidious lies and then trying to pass it off as trolling.


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You repeat The Truth ? !!!! And even try to pass it off as The Truth ?!!!
OMF.

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Bullettyme wrote:
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I see after begging to be part of the OPCW investigation the Russians are doing their best to undermine its findings and challenge its legitimacy. Which is pretty convenient as they're doing work in Syria at this moment in time too. They're not very subtle, the Russians.



So the Russians are now owning and subverting a Western (Swiss) independent laboratory ? Wow ...
Should they accept that they (Russia) deal in BZ, a Western nerve agent ?
(which they may, we do not know, do we .... but we will have to take their word, they do not have to PROVE that they anything here ...)
Why suddenly such HUGE concentration of A234 IN IT'S BASE STATE, IN HIGH CONCENTRATIONS which would surely have lead to fatalities ? Was that added on, by the Brits, later ? Quite probably, to make their case ... Why did teh OPCW not report the BZ ? Are they also spinning the narrative ? Seemingly, one suspects ..

Pretty convenient for the UK's narrative bots to suddenly start blaming subversion on Russia. The UK started it, this dance will have to continue to it's logical end (the UK's false flag story, again, imho)

A pretty cheap solution to an embarrassing problem - an out-of-work Russian turned spy, useless and compromised, probably sticking the UK for millions, possibly even blackmailing them ... Kill the bastard, contaminate his samples with A234, and blame Russia ... several flies with one blow.
Ethelred the Unready would have been proud ..


Have a read above and try to comprehend what has been said you conspiracy minded, childishly contrarian halfwit.

The Irony!


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happyhooker wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Think I'll write to our local Russian embassy, inform Putin of this fred, and the bleeding hearts upon it.

Will ask him to instruct his SMERSH people, next time they do an ex-Russian spy, to get a snazzy Rooossian blond and hug the man to death .. the way our Christian UK and US (and Oirish) people would do it ...
At least he will enjoy his death I think....

I'm not sure which, but you either need to start or stop taking your medication

From the mouth of someone who believed the words of governments without conclusive evidences. Perhaps you should take or stop whatever it is that makes you feel high!


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:48 pm 
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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
You repeat The Truth ? !!!! And even try to pass it off as The Truth ?!!!
OMF.

Some of us were born before yesterday.


Are you now going to claim your trolling post was accurate? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:49 pm 
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Oceanbreeze wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
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Bullettyme wrote:
I see after begging to be part of the OPCW investigation the Russians are doing their best to undermine its findings and challenge its legitimacy. Which is pretty convenient as they're doing work in Syria at this moment in time too. They're not very subtle, the Russians.



So the Russians are now owning and subverting a Western (Swiss) independent laboratory ? Wow ...
Should they accept that they (Russia) deal in BZ, a Western nerve agent ?
(which they may, we do not know, do we .... but we will have to take their word, they do not have to PROVE that they anything here ...)
Why suddenly such HUGE concentration of A234 IN IT'S BASE STATE, IN HIGH CONCENTRATIONS which would surely have lead to fatalities ? Was that added on, by the Brits, later ? Quite probably, to make their case ... Why did teh OPCW not report the BZ ? Are they also spinning the narrative ? Seemingly, one suspects ..

Pretty convenient for the UK's narrative bots to suddenly start blaming subversion on Russia. The UK started it, this dance will have to continue to it's logical end (the UK's false flag story, again, imho)

A pretty cheap solution to an embarrassing problem - an out-of-work Russian turned spy, useless and compromised, probably sticking the UK for millions, possibly even blackmailing them ... Kill the bastard, contaminate his samples with A234, and blame Russia ... several flies with one blow.
Ethelred the Unready would have been proud ..


Have a read above and try to comprehend what has been said you conspiracy minded, childishly contrarian halfwit.

The Irony!


They have problems grasping any deviation of their own propaganda. Or any independent thinking. Western brain washing ... Super colonialists.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:50 pm 
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Turbogoat wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
You repeat The Truth ? !!!! And even try to pass it off as The Truth ?!!!
OMF.

Some of us were born before yesterday.


Are you now going to claim your trolling post was accurate? :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you claiming that you post the whole truth, all the time ?

(Zero emoticons, I am asking a serious question ...)


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