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Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:26 am
by houtkabouter
Is Vlad a war criminal?
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:40 am
by Bowens
True Blue wrote:Bowens wrote:True Blue wrote:Bowens wrote:True Blue wrote:There was an interview with George Bush Jnr last year that was quite revealing about the pathetic macho mindset that many russian men have.
Speaks for itself really (linked to the relevant part of the video)
https://youtu.be/rKeFXs8a0Xk?t=5m15s
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.
He's almost certainly more intelligent and experienced in global affairs than you ever will be.
More experienced in global affairs. You nailed me there.
Yes, it is certainly outrageous to suggest that a former two term president with a father as a president and from a powerful political family who has met Putin many times......would know more than some guy on a rugby forum.
I was laughing at the lame putdown, of course he's more experienced in global affairs than me. So what?
He's still a f**king idiot in spite of his "pedigree." The dumbshit brother who ruined Jeb's shot.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:41 am
by Wilson's Toffee
Bowens wrote:True Blue wrote:Bowens wrote:True Blue wrote:Bowens wrote:
The man is such an utter moron. Decades of grooming by a Brahmin Yale clan and he still comes across like a dopey grocery store manager.
He's almost certainly more intelligent and experienced in global affairs than you ever will be.
More experienced in global affairs. You nailed me there.
Yes, it is certainly outrageous to suggest that a former two term president with a father as a president and from a powerful political family who has met Putin many times......would know more than some guy on a rugby forum.
I was laughing at the lame putdown, of course he's more experienced in global affairs than me. So what?
He's still a f**king idiot in spite of his "pedigree." The dumbshit brother who ruined Jeb's shot.
He is the guy who got away with the Iraq war .... and 9/11.
Stupid, eh ?
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:52 am
by kiwinoz
Varsity Way wrote:I was listening to BBC Breakfast this morning and a lady who investigates similar incidents said there were at least 14 poisonings last year in the UK in similar circumstances. WTF!!!!
I think I know the kebab shop.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:41 am
by Bullettyme
c69 wrote:Tbh I really don't give a shit about this spy.
Non story move on.
Do you know give a shit that this is how little Russia and Vlad think of your country? That they can kill people (including innocent people) on the street and you won't care?
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:42 pm
by houtkabouter
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
He is the guy who got away with the Iraq war .... and 9/11.
Stupid, eh ?
When we compare him to you, he’s incredibly intelligent.
But then so is a hamster after a lobotomy.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:38 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
houtkabouter wrote:Wilson's Toffee wrote:
He is the guy who got away with the Iraq war .... and 9/11.
Stupid, eh ?
When we compare him to you, he’s incredibly intelligent.
But then so is a hamster after a lobotomy.
And then we go quite a few steps downwards, into the lowest of low strata of "human" intelligence. And then we start evaluating YOU.
The Pits, they call it. Close to the amoebae.
Did you parasite on anything today, yet ?
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:53 pm
by houtkabouter
Wilson's Toffee wrote:houtkabouter wrote:Wilson's Toffee wrote:
He is the guy who got away with the Iraq war .... and 9/11.
Stupid, eh ?
When we compare him to you, he’s incredibly intelligent.
But then so is a hamster after a lobotomy.
Wibble.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:56 pm
by Last Line
The first cop on the scene is in the shit as well.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:02 pm
by DragsterDriver
Globus/
I know somebody who met dubya a few times over dinner with the ambassador? in London. They said he was very intelligent and the American public like a ‘good ol boy’. All part of the act.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:30 pm
by Bowens
If you can imagine it the odds that Americans know someone who knows someone etc is greater than you in the UK.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:31 pm
by True Blue
Bowens wrote:
Yes, it is certainly outrageous to suggest that a former two term president with a father as a president and from a powerful political family who has met Putin many times......would know more than some guy on a rugby forum.
I was laughing at the lame putdown, of course he's more experienced in global affairs than me. So what?
He's still a f**king idiot in spite of his "pedigree." The dumbshit brother who ruined Jeb's shot.
Clearly you're a bit dim, so the point of that comment was that Bush knows Vlad very well and his behaviour with the dogs explains his mentality quite well.
Also knocking his intelligence is so 2005. Please find something else to do.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:38 pm
by Bowens
Do you have any more Ellen clips you want to post as evidence of his intellectual depth?
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:01 pm
by True Blue
There's probably numerous interviews of Bush around if you want to have a look?
Sadly posting photos of a 1 second snapshot of time it took for him to pull off a poncho certainly makes you more than just a bit dim.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:20 pm
by Margin_Walker
Police officer who attended the scene also in a coma according to Sky.
A dead copper would make it a lot more difficult for the government to turn a blind eye/just pay lip service to this sort of thing.
Although not sure what their options are and what leverage they actually have these days.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:22 pm
by Bullettyme
c69 wrote:Bullettyme wrote:c69 wrote:Tbh I really don't give a shit about this spy.
Non story move on.
Do you know give a shit that this is how little Russia and Vlad think of your country? That they can kill people (including innocent people) on the street and you won't care?
Shit happens. Sorry if I sound callous but I just don't care about this.
I think you're a monster.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:27 pm
by Uncle Fester
c69 wrote:Bullettyme wrote:c69 wrote:Tbh I really don't give a shit about this spy.
Non story move on.
Do you know give a shit that this is how little Russia and Vlad think of your country? That they can kill people (including innocent people) on the street and you won't care?
Shit happens. Sorry if I sound callous but I just don't care about this.
C69 hates da police
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:35 pm
by DragsterDriver
Margin_Walker wrote:Police officer who attended the scene also in a coma according to Sky.
A dead copper would make it a lot more difficult for the government to turn a blind eye/just pay lip service to this sort of thing.
Although not sure what their options are and what leverage they actually have these days.
That’s it really- what are they going to do? He doesn’t give a toss.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:45 pm
by Bowens
True Blue wrote:There's probably numerous interviews of Bush around if you want to have a look?
Sadly posting photos of a 1 second snapshot of time it took for him to pull off a poncho certainly makes you more than just a bit dim.
No need to. I lived under his administration so know what I'm dealing with. A few silly human interest pieces won't change it. Most of the world's serious problems today either emerged or escalated under his inept "watch." Shamed the Bush name in a way his brother never did, probably derailing a political dynasty.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:04 pm
by fishfoodie
DragsterDriver wrote:Margin_Walker wrote:Police officer who attended the scene also in a coma according to Sky.
A dead copper would make it a lot more difficult for the government to turn a blind eye/just pay lip service to this sort of thing.
Although not sure what their options are and what leverage they actually have these days.
That’s it really- what are they going to do? He doesn’t give a toss.
You, & the rest of Europe; could stop buying Oil & Gas off the plum !
Use the leverage to rein in the ME, & offer to use their O&G supplies, & leave Vlad with a economy totally dependent on commodities, he can't sell, unless he learns to act like a vaguely civilized member of the human race.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:06 pm
by DragsterDriver
fishfoodie wrote:DragsterDriver wrote:Margin_Walker wrote:Police officer who attended the scene also in a coma according to Sky.
A dead copper would make it a lot more difficult for the government to turn a blind eye/just pay lip service to this sort of thing.
Although not sure what their options are and what leverage they actually have these days.
That’s it really- what are they going to do? He doesn’t give a toss.
You, & the rest of Europe; could stop buying Oil & Gas off the plum !
Use the leverage to rein in the ME, & offer to use their O&G supplies, & leave Vlad with a economy totally dependent on commodities, he can't sell, unless he learns to act like a vaguely civilized member of the human race.
I think if he was hit in the wallet he'd just invade somewhere out of spite.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:08 pm
by fishfoodie
DragsterDriver wrote:fishfoodie wrote:DragsterDriver wrote:Margin_Walker wrote:Police officer who attended the scene also in a coma according to Sky.
A dead copper would make it a lot more difficult for the government to turn a blind eye/just pay lip service to this sort of thing.
Although not sure what their options are and what leverage they actually have these days.
That’s it really- what are they going to do? He doesn’t give a toss.
You, & the rest of Europe; could stop buying Oil & Gas off the plum !
Use the leverage to rein in the ME, & offer to use their O&G supplies, & leave Vlad with a economy totally dependent on commodities, he can't sell, unless he learns to act like a vaguely civilized member of the human race.
I think if he was hit in the wallet he'd just invade somewhere out of spite.
Well that's a marvelous selling opportunity for UK Arms Manufacturers, Post-Brexit, isn't it ?
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:09 pm
by Brumbieman
Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:15 pm
by Bullettyme
Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
This comment paid for and approved by Vladimir Putin.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:19 pm
by fishfoodie
Bullettyme wrote:Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
This comment paid for and approved by Vladimir Putin.
Yeah, why did those narky New Zealanders make such a big deal over the Frogs sinking the Greenpeace ship; it's just the way the world works.
Just remember that when Trump offs your PM because he took the piss out of him at that Conference.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:25 pm
by bimboman
Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
Really ? How do they keep all this quite.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:43 am
by Bindi
Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
They also poisoned the copper who was first responder. Sounds like he’s just as sick. Makes it a much more major incident.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:25 am
by Turbogoat
Bindi wrote:Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
They also poisoned the copper who was first responder. Sounds like he’s just as sick. Makes it a much more major incident.
They used a Nerve Agent within the UK. Nerve agents you may have heard of are Sarin and VX. It was toxic and indiscriminate enough that not only the target of this assassination attempt were affected.
The UK should be going banana-shit over this type of rogue behaviour, even if they were normally fine with people being murdered withing their borders for political purposes.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:31 am
by bimboman
Turbogoat wrote:Bindi wrote:Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
They also poisoned the copper who was first responder. Sounds like he’s just as sick. Makes it a much more major incident.
They used a Nerve Agent within the UK. Nerve agents you may have heard of are Sarin and VX. It was toxic and indiscriminate enough that not only the target of this assassination attempt were affected.
The UK should be going banana-shit over this type of rogue behaviour, even if they were normally fine with people being murdered withing their borders for political purposes.
As they did nothing over Litvinekco it's unlikely they've now found a solution. Putins is one dangerous M Fucker.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:54 am
by Turbogoat
bimboman wrote:Turbogoat wrote:Bindi wrote:Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
They also poisoned the copper who was first responder. Sounds like he’s just as sick. Makes it a much more major incident.
They used a Nerve Agent within the UK. Nerve agents you may have heard of are Sarin and VX. It was toxic and indiscriminate enough that not only the target of this assassination attempt were affected.
The UK should be going banana-shit over this type of rogue behaviour, even if they were normally fine with people being murdered withing their borders for political purposes.
As they did nothing over Litvinekco it's unlikely they've now found a solution. Putins is one dangerous M Fucker.
That's fair enoigh. If the UK were fine with those two wierdo assassins leaving polonium all over London, they sure as hell aren't going to complain about a bit of Sarin.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:51 am
by DragsterDriver
guy smiley wrote:bimboman wrote:Turbogoat wrote:Bindi wrote:Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
They also poisoned the copper who was first responder. Sounds like he’s just as sick. Makes it a much more major incident.
They used a Nerve Agent within the UK. Nerve agents you may have heard of are Sarin and VX. It was toxic and indiscriminate enough that not only the target of this assassination attempt were affected.
The UK should be going banana-shit over this type of rogue behaviour, even if they were normally fine with people being murdered withing their borders for political purposes.
As they did nothing over Litvinekco it's unlikely they've now found a solution. Putins is one dangerous M Fucker.
Well, they did actually do something. They investigated extensively and proved Kremlin involvement. Yes, that's 'all' they did but as we all know, escalating from that level is difficult and beyond the scope of a few blokes pontificating on a rugby forum to accurately define. It's also a decent springboard for further action if it's judged necessary. I wonder if the Champions of Brexit feel up to taking Putin on directly over it all now?
Good point- wonder how punchy the eu feel that it’s happened in a member country?
Again, what realistically can the uk do apart from wave it’s fist at the sky?
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:57 am
by Turbogoat
Sanctions?
Convince Trump to go along with the bipartisan agreement in Congress and the Senate to impose their sanctions?
Provide support for Ukraine against the continued Russian acts of war?
Invite Ukraine into NATO?
Confiscate Russian investments in the UK?
Relegate Chelski into the 3rd division?
Boycott the next World Cup? (harsh, I know)
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:02 am
by DragsterDriver
Turbogoat wrote:Sanctions?
Convince Trump to go along with the bipartisan agreement in Congress and the Senate to impose their sanctions?
Provide support for Ukraine against the continued Russian acts of war?
Invite Ukraine into NATO?
Confiscate Russian investments in the UK?
Relegate Chelski into the 3rd division?
Boycott the next World Cup? (harsh, I know)
Tbf- I wouldn’t fancy going to the World Cup there
We’re a piss-ant little island, we’ll make some noise about it all but there’s nobody in Europe fancies tackling Russia. Nice wake up for Germany to start meeting their NATO payments.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:51 am
by Duff Paddy
London got into bed with the Russians, is anyone really surprised
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:10 am
by Wilson's Toffee
guy smiley wrote:bimboman wrote:Turbogoat wrote:Bindi wrote:Brumbieman wrote:Yeah, FSB poisons traitor, stop the presses!
Who gives a fudge, every single country around the world knocks people off, all the f**king time, with the Yanks and Israeli's leading the way.
They also poisoned the copper who was first responder. Sounds like he’s just as sick. Makes it a much more major incident.
They used a Nerve Agent within the UK. Nerve agents you may have heard of are Sarin and VX. It was toxic and indiscriminate enough that not only the target of this assassination attempt were affected.
The UK should be going banana-shit over this type of rogue behaviour, even if they were normally fine with people being murdered withing their borders for political purposes.
As they did nothing over Litvinekco it's unlikely they've now found a solution. Putins is one dangerous M Fucker.
Well, they did actually do something. They investigated extensively and proved Kremlin involvement. Yes, that's 'all' they did but as we all know, escalating from that level is difficult and beyond the scope of a few blokes pontificating on a rugby forum to accurately define. It's also a decent springboard for further action if it's judged necessary. I wonder if the Champions of Brexit feel up to taking Putin on directly over it all now?
They should be going for the Irish, next.
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/euro ... -1.5423137
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:25 am
by Laurent
DragsterDriver wrote:Turbogoat wrote:Sanctions?
Convince Trump to go along with the bipartisan agreement in Congress and the Senate to impose their sanctions?
Provide support for Ukraine against the continued Russian acts of war?
Invite Ukraine into NATO?
Confiscate Russian investments in the UK?
Relegate Chelski into the 3rd division?
Boycott the next World Cup? (harsh, I know)
Tbf- I wouldn’t fancy going to the World Cup there
We’re a piss-ant little island, we’ll make some noise about it all but there’s nobody in Europe fancies tackling Russia. Nice wake up for Germany to start meeting their NATO payments.
You mean commitments not payments.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:27 am
by Uthikoloshe
Snitches get stiches
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:30 am
by DragsterDriver
Laurent wrote:DragsterDriver wrote:Turbogoat wrote:Sanctions?
Convince Trump to go along with the bipartisan agreement in Congress and the Senate to impose their sanctions?
Provide support for Ukraine against the continued Russian acts of war?
Invite Ukraine into NATO?
Confiscate Russian investments in the UK?
Relegate Chelski into the 3rd division?
Boycott the next World Cup? (harsh, I know)
Tbf- I wouldn’t fancy going to the World Cup there
We’re a piss-ant little island, we’ll make some noise about it all but there’s nobody in Europe fancies tackling Russia. Nice wake up for Germany to start meeting their NATO payments.
You mean commitments not payments.
Yes, the commitment to pay their share of the bill.
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:36 am
by Laurent
DragsterDriver wrote:Laurent wrote:DragsterDriver wrote:Turbogoat wrote:Sanctions?
Convince Trump to go along with the bipartisan agreement in Congress and the Senate to impose their sanctions?
Provide support for Ukraine against the continued Russian acts of war?
Invite Ukraine into NATO?
Confiscate Russian investments in the UK?
Relegate Chelski into the 3rd division?
Boycott the next World Cup? (harsh, I know)
Tbf- I wouldn’t fancy going to the World Cup there
We’re a piss-ant little island, we’ll make some noise about it all but there’s nobody in Europe fancies tackling Russia. Nice wake up for Germany to start meeting their NATO payments.
You mean commitments not payments.
Yes, the commitment to pay their share of the bill.
2% right ?
that's not a bill .
Re: Vlad's at it again
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:53 am
by DragsterDriver
I’m not here to argue terminology- take it up with the Americans.