Chat Forum
It is currently Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:08 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: The Sopranos: The Movie
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:15 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19729
Ok ok not exactly The Sopranos, but a prequel of sorts. You'd have to guess it'll focus on Junior and Johnny Boy. Could be really good, or a case of better to let sleeping dogs lie?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/m ... -of-newark

Quote:
David Chase is set to return to the universe of The Sopranos with a big screen-prequel.

The script, with the working title of The Many Saints of Newark, has been purchased by New Line and will be set against the backdrop of the Newark riots of the 1960s. It was written by Chase and Lawrence Konner, who has previously written for The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire.

“David is a masterful storyteller and we, along with our colleagues at HBO, are thrilled that he has decided to revisit, and enlarge, the Soprano universe in a feature film,” New Line’s chairman, Toby Emmerich, said.

According to Deadline, details are scarce but the script will see some familiar characters from the show appear. The HBO drama ran for six seasons, winning 21 Emmys and making stars of James Gandolfini and Edie Falco.

In 2016, Chase spoke about the possibility of a prequel with Deadline. “I’ve said it from the beginning: if I had a really good idea and I thought it could be really entertaining and it wouldn’t upset what was done I might do it,” he said. Last year, when speaking to Entertainment Weekly, he suggested that he was more open to the idea. “I could conceive of maybe a prequel of The Sopranos,” he said. “I could never see [a return of the show] except as a prequel.”

Since the end of The Sopranos, Chase wrote and directed music drama Not Fade Away in 2012. It received mainly positive reviews yet was a box office disappointment, making just $600,000 from a $20m budget.

The 1967 Newark riots saw four days of looting and violence that led to the deaths of 26 people. They were the result of a long-running feeling of disenfranchisement among black people who had been racially profiled, subjected to violence from the authorities, and denied opportunities. The inciting incident was an act of police brutality against a black taxi driver.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:19 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:33 am
Posts: 6596
Location: Stockholm
The more the better for my 2c. Good news.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:22 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19729
Mog The Almighty wrote:
The more the better for my 2c. Good news.


I'd agree. Although I'd prefer it to be a series, to go into more depth with some of the characters.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:33 am
Posts: 6596
Location: Stockholm
I concur.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 18674
Bullettyme wrote:
Could be really good, or a case of better to let sleeping fish lie?

fixed.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:59 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17707
Bad idea. The ‘60s flashbacks (which were more like dream sequences in some cases) were one of the few weak points of the show - like an extended Goodfellas riff.

Chase is also much better suited to long form. That movie he made (also set in the ‘60s from memory) was dull.

Vince Gilligan has succeeded with Better Call Saul because, as well as coming hot on the heels of his BB success, it’s the same setting and roughly the same characters but is a very different, patiently developed show. This won’t have that advantage.

Boo and hiss I say. Should have died with Gandolfini


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 49381
Quote:
Bad idea. The ‘60s flashbacks (which were more like dream sequences in some cases) were one of the few weak points of the sho



The roots of Tony's psychosis were a weak point ?

Away with you.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:14 am
Posts: 17589
I want to see what a young Paulie Walnuts is like.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:59 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17707
bimboman wrote:
Quote:
Bad idea. The ‘60s flashbacks (which were more like dream sequences in some cases) were one of the few weak points of the sho



The roots of Tony's psychosis were a weak point ?

Away with you.


They seemed like they were from another, more derivative show. You could get to the root of Tony’s problems in just one scene with his mother and another with Melfi. They always felt superfluous.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:02 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 49381
naki wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Quote:
Bad idea. The ‘60s flashbacks (which were more like dream sequences in some cases) were one of the few weak points of the sho



The roots of Tony's psychosis were a weak point ?

Away with you.


They seemed like they were from another, more derivative show. You could get to the root of Tony’s problems in just one scene with his mother and another with Melfi. They always felt superfluous.



You're missing the fingers being chopped off and his first murder.

Away with you .


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17707
bimboman wrote:
naki wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Quote:
Bad idea. The ‘60s flashbacks (which were more like dream sequences in some cases) were one of the few weak points of the sho



The roots of Tony's psychosis were a weak point ?

Away with you.


They seemed like they were from another, more derivative show. You could get to the root of Tony’s problems in just one scene with his mother and another with Melfi. They always felt superfluous.



You're missing the fingers being chopped off and his first murder.

Away with you .


No, the first murder with Paulie was handled much more effectively - just done in quick flashes and appropriately disturbing.

Check out the Satriali pinky scene again. Doesn’t help that the actor playing his Dad is so off, but it’s like a Scorcese parody.

https://youtu.be/ewG4LrprV_I

The one with Janice at the circus was even worse. Gratuitous use of White Rabbit


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19729
naki wrote:
Bad idea. The ‘60s flashbacks (which were more like dream sequences in some cases) were one of the few weak points of the show - like an extended Goodfellas riff.

Chase is also much better suited to long form. That movie he made (also set in the ‘60s from memory) was dull.

Vince Gilligan has succeeded with Better Call Saul because, as well as coming hot on the heels of his BB success, it’s the same setting and roughly the same characters but is a very different, patiently developed show. This won’t have that advantage.

Boo and hiss I say. Should have died with Gandolfini


I liked some of the 60s flashbacks, although I didn't really like the dream sequences even though they were fairly important to the whole thing. Very well done though most of the time. I think there's some interesting stories there; how Junior became such an insecure old codger, how Johnny Boy got worn down, how Tony, Silvio and Jackie got made. Agreed though, long form would be better.

I found the travails of a modern day mobster much more interesting though, there's plenty of movies about the "glory days" in the 60s and 70s when the mobs were in relatively full pomp. It's fortunately an organisation in terminal decline throughout The Sopranos, and now (according to various news snippets) it seems to have withered away everywhere with the exception of NYC and Montreal.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:10 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 49381
Most things with Janice weren't great part of the show.


Junior and Dad will make a great film, now stop being a curmudgeon .


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 49381
Quote:
I found the travails of a modern day mobster much more interesting though, there's plenty of movies about the "glory days" in the 60s and 70s when the mobs were in relatively full pomp. It's fortunately an organisation in terminal decline throughout The Sopranos, and now (according to various news snippets) it seems to have withered away everywhere with the exception of NYC and Montreal.


Goodfellas nailed it so well it's difficult for anyone else.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19729
naki wrote:
No, the first murder with Paulie was handled much more effectively - just done in quick flashes and appropriately disturbing.


Agreed that was very well done.

The actor for his dad :lol: he was truly something right out of the "stereotypical Italian street tough" playbook.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17707
bimboman wrote:
Most things with Janice weren't great part of the show.


Junior and Dad will make a great film, now stop being a curmudgeon .


Come on, Janice was great. Like a comic version of her mother except even more unhinged and a necessary reminder of the toxic Soprano genetics after the actress who played Lydia passed away.

Junior IS Dominic Chianese, those are some big shoes to fill. And as Bullet says, they won’t have time to fill them in a 90 minute movie.

Regardless, I’ll watch with faint hope.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 49381
Bullettyme wrote:
naki wrote:
No, the first murder with Paulie was handled much more effectively - just done in quick flashes and appropriately disturbing.


Agreed that was very well done.

The actor for his dad :lol: he was truly something right out of the "stereotypical Italian street tough" playbook.



That stereo type of Tony's Dad was deliberate though as Tony's memory was the thing being played out.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 49381
naki wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Most things with Janice weren't great part of the show.


Junior and Dad will make a great film, now stop being a curmudgeon .


Come on, Janice was great. Like a comic version of her mother except even more unhinged and a necessary reminder of the toxic Soprano genetics after the actress who played Lydia passed away.

Junior IS Dominic Chianese, those are some big shoes to fill. And as Bullet says, they won’t have time to fill them in a 90 minute movie.

Regardless, I’ll watch with faint hope.



I'd prefer you to leave it to the rest of us if you're cant be happy.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17707
Bullettyme wrote:
naki wrote:
No, the first murder with Paulie was handled much more effectively - just done in quick flashes and appropriately disturbing.


Agreed that was very well done.

The actor for his dad :lol: he was truly something right out of the "stereotypical Italian street tough" playbook.


They sort of nailed the kid Tony in the looks department at least, like a pudgier AJ.

But it’s such a strange scene which makes me think they were going for a “hazy memory” approach (especially with the on-the-nose dialogue) from Tony’s adult perspective that didn’t really come off.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17707
bimboman wrote:
naki wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Most things with Janice weren't great part of the show.


Junior and Dad will make a great film, now stop being a curmudgeon .


Come on, Janice was great. Like a comic version of her mother except even more unhinged and a necessary reminder of the toxic Soprano genetics after the actress who played Lydia passed away.

Junior IS Dominic Chianese, those are some big shoes to fill. And as Bullet says, they won’t have time to fill them in a 90 minute movie.

Regardless, I’ll watch with faint hope.



I'd prefer you to leave it to the rest of us if you're cant be happy.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:26 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 49381
:thumbup: ,


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Laurent, TheMantis96, The Native, Zeitgeist and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group