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Toomua was rusty for sure but had some nice touches. His kicking was very good in general play and for goal.

Hodge was disappointing at 13. It was like he was going into contact at about 60%. Not sure he is the answer but he may have been holding back.

Olo wrote:Toomua was rusty for sure but had some nice touches. His kicking was very good in general play and for goal.

Hodge was disappointing at 13. It was like he was going into contact at about 60%. Not sure he is the answer but he may have been holding back.

yeha hodge was weak there, English was doing better for the super team at 13 ...cheika has to bite his lip and pick folau there against the AB's with DHP at 15 and Hodge on left, folau might get lucky if nz names goodhue there..at the very worst, folau will have his defence tested...

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Forwards

Jermaine Ainsley* (uncapped, Melbourne Rebels, 22)
Allan Alaalatoa (23 Tests, Brumbies, 24)
Rory Arnold (15 Tests, Brumbies, 28)
Adam Coleman (23 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 26)
Folau Faingaa* (uncapped, Brumbies, 23)
Ned Hanigan (13 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 23)
Michael Hooper (c) (82 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 26)
Sekope Kepu (94 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 32)
Tolu Latu (7 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 25)
Brandon Paenga-Amosa (3 Tests, Queensland Reds, 22)
David Pocock (69 Tests, Brumbies, 30)
Tatafu Polota-Nau (82 Tests, Leicester, 33)
Tom Robertson (21 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 23)
Izack Rodda (7 Tests, Queensland Reds, 21)
Pete Samu (3 Tests, Brumbies, 26)
Rob Simmons (85 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)
Scott Sio (46 Tests, Brumbies, 26)
Caleb Timu (2 Tests, Queensland Reds, 24)
Lukhan Tui (7 Tests, Queensland Reds, 21)
Taniela Tupou (4 Tests, Queensland Reds, 22)

Backs

Tom Banks* (uncapped, Brumbies, 24)
Kurtley Beale (74 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)
Israel Folau (65 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)
Bernard Foley (58 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 28)
Will Genia (90 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 30)
Dane Haylett-Petty (21 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 29)
Reece Hodge (27 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 23)
Marika Koroibete (11 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 26)
Jack Maddocks* (uncapped, Melbourne Rebels, 21)
Billy Meakes* (uncapped, Melbourne Rebels, 27)
Sefa Naivalu (7 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 26)
Jordan Petaia* (uncapped, Queensland Reds, 18)
Nick Phipps (64 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)
Joe Powell (4 Tests, Brumbies, 24)
Curtis Rona (3 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 26)
Matt Toomua (33 Tests, Leicester/Melbourne Rebels, 28)

Slim 293 wrote:SQUAD
Jermaine Ainsley* (uncapped, Melbourne Rebels, 22)
Folau Faingaa* (uncapped, Brumbies, 23)
Tom Banks* (uncapped, Brumbies, 24)
Jack Maddocks* (uncapped, Melbourne Rebels, 21)
Billy Meakes* (uncapped, Melbourne Rebels, 27)
Jordan Petaia* (uncapped, Queensland Reds, 18)

Last bloke has some promise.

Dunno if he gets a gig against NZ, but y'never know.

petaia could turn out to be the kerevi/TK mash-up people wanted at centre , who knows..an officially he has become the FIRST PERSON born in the year 2000 onwards to make an international team.

so chiefs winger Toni Pulu just signed for the brumbies but because he carries an Australian passport, he is already eligible for the Wallabies thanks to a dispensation granted by World Rugby... WTF? they are ignoring the fact he played 7's for Niue ..

Banks, TPN and Toomua have made the cut.

comets wrote:so chiefs winger Toni Pulu just signed for the brumbies but because he carries an Australian passport, he is already eligible for the Wallabies thanks to a dispensation granted by World Rugby... WTF? they are ignoring the fact he played 7's for Niue ..

It appears he was never eligible for Niue so that doesn't count

Samu Kerevi will be playing rugby in fiji this weekend ahead of the 2018 NRC game between the Drua and melbourne rising in the Fiji Legends vs Clas­sic Wallabies, does that mean he is fit now and if so, why isn't he being recalled by the wobblies?

Maybe this is a fitness trial?



BTW, who says he has missed out on selection for the Bokke test?

wamberal99 wrote:Maybe this is a fitness trial?



BTW, who says he has missed out on selection for the Bokke test?

not named in the original team

The Wallabies take on New Zealand in the final Bledisloe Test on Saturday October 27, kicking off at 2:45pm local, 4;45pm AEDT.
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IN: Jermaine Ainsley, Jack Dempsey, Jed Holloway, Tolu Latu, Samu Kerevi

OUT: Tatafu Polota-Nau (Leicester), Tom Robertson (knee), Caleb Timu, Matt Toomua (Leicester)

Wallabies squad for third Bledisloe Test

Forwards

Jermaine Ainsley (1 Test, Melbourne Rebels, 23)

Allan Alaalatoa (29 Tests, Brumbies, 24)

Rory Arnold (18 Tests , Brumbies, 28)

Adam Coleman (28 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 26)

Angus Cottrell* (uncapped, Melbourne Rebels, 28)

Jack Dempsey (6 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 24)

Folau Fainga’a (5 Tests, Brumbies, 23)

Ned Hanigan (17 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 23)

Jed Holloway* (uncapped, NSW Waratahs, 25)

Michael Hooper (c) (87 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 26)

Sekope Kepu (99 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 32)

Tolu Latu (9 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 25)

Brandon Paenga-Amosa (4 Tests, Queensland Reds, 22)

David Pocock (74 Tests, Brumbies, 30)

Izack Rodda (13 Tests, Queensland Reds, 22)

Rob Simmons (90 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)

Scott Sio (51 Tests, Brumbies, 27)

Taniela Tupou (8 Tests, Queensland Reds, 22)

Backs

Tom Banks (2 Tests, Brumbies, 24)

Kurtley Beale (80 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)

Israel Folau (69 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)

Bernard Foley (64 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)

Will Genia (96 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 30)

Jake Gordon* (uncapped, NSW Waratahs, 25)

Dane Haylett-Petty (27 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 29)

Reece Hodge (33 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 24)

Samu Kerevi (21 Tests, Queensland Reds, 25)

Marika Koroibete (17 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 26)

Jack Maddocks (5 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 21)

Sefa Naivalu (7 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 26)

Nick Phipps (69 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)

Looks like Cheika is searching for options at 6 with Hollaway, Dempsey and Cottrell called up. I rate all of them above Hannigan, so happy to see any of them trialed.

still no valetini though.... shame...

comets wrote:still no valetini though.... shame...

He did not stand out last weekend. Looked a lot better early in the season, before his injuries. No need to rush him.

wamberal99 wrote:

comets wrote:still no valetini though.... shame...

He did not stand out last weekend. Looked a lot better early in the season, before his injuries. No need to rush him.

Horrible conditions for him to try and stand out in.

Torrential rain on a mud-bath suburban field.

But Hanigan is still there. What’s the bet he starts at 6?

Dempsey is the guy I reckon. Love to see him start with Cottrell on the bench.

Olo wrote:But Hanigan is still there. What’s the bet he starts at 6?

Dempsey is the guy I reckon. Love to see him start with Cottrell on the bench.

I don't know, Cheika does like Jack.

I'd like to see Dempsey with Holloway of the bench. He can cover lock 6 and 8, and is much more explosive than Cotties Cordial, so offers more impact.

I was smashed at the start of the week to find McMahon will miss the RWC, but picked up a lot yesterday with the great news that Petaia will be added to this squad for the November tour - very, very smart selection.

A few years ago I would have been equally excited to see Holloway in there, but he never followed through on the devastating form of his first couple of seasons as an 8 with the Tahs. Since then he has seemed only a shadow of that person, and just trundles around like a standard uninspiring lock. He has long been assigned to my 'Wha' happen?' file as one of the most bewildering cases.

Dempsey for 6, unless the selectors minds are on vacation.

I just hope the ARU threw the whole bank at Dempsey's physio. Dude was on fire before he wrecked his leg in that stupid exhibition match.

Holloway was looking the goods a year or so ago. He’s got legit #8 skills and is hands down twice the player Hanna is.
Maybe he will get a trot?

The backrow as a unit must be more than the sum of its parts.
Just thought I’d throw that out there in case Chikada is listening in.

Best XV from that?

1. Sio
2. Fainga'a
3. Kepu
4. Coleman
5. Rodda
6. Dempsey
7. Hooper
8. Pocock
9. Genia
10. Toomua
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi
14. Folau
15. DHP

i'm still shocked naivalu gets picked, hasn't been in form in a while but tbf, has been good in green and gold..personally Folau should stay on the wing, I think DHP brings a different dynamic on attack from fullback..would also like to see Banks and Koroibete on the bench since Banks has to be the next Wobbly fullback after the 2019RWC..and marika will be useful in the last 20 agaisnt tiring teams..A fit kerevi will always start for the wobblies, we all know how Chieka thinks.. i don't like foley but he will take the bench ahead of marika or tom..

Toomua is back in the UK.

Olo wrote:Toomua is back in the UK.

well then Foley it is... with tom and marika on the bench..

Beale will be the back up 10...........

Olo wrote:Toomua is back in the UK.

Is this game oit of the test window?

Despite not playing on last years EOYT, and being injured for a few games this year due to Kiwi foul play............

Pocock smashed it at the John Eales medal.

Only played 8 of the 13 tests...

where is the God Botherer?

comets wrote:where is the God Botherer?

He played the same number of tests as Pocock - didn't go on the EOYT, and was injured for a few matches this year.

And he's been fairly rubbish in the RC.

Lukhan Tui came second?

Jaysus. No offence to the guy but he’s a lock trying to learn how to be an international 6, on the job

Thomas wrote:

wamberal99 wrote:

comets wrote:still no valetini though.... shame...

He did not stand out last weekend. Looked a lot better early in the season, before his injuries. No need to rush him.

Horrible conditions for him to try and stand out in.

Torrential rain on a mud-bath suburban field.

The rain isn't affecting him today... he's been smashing Fijians.

It probably means one of his knees will blow out at any moment...

So Clyne and the co cvnts putting out a statement backing Cheika and his coaching team to the WC. So lose every game between now and the World Cup Cheika is safe. Funny about what Clyne steps out of the shadows to make a statement on.
Obviously the Arg game has been an aberration in their eyes.

grievous wrote:So Clyne and the co cvnts putting out a statement backing Cheika and his coaching team to the WC. So lose every game between now and the World Cup Cheika is safe. Funny about what Clyne steps out of the shadows to make a statement on.
Obviously the Arg game has been an aberration in their eyes.

They had a choice, didn't they? Either sack him now, or back him until after the World Cup.


Would you have sacked him now? If so, who would you have appointed as national coach? And, by the way, it is the CEO's call, not "Clyne and Co".


There was a reason that JON wanted to be appointed Executive Chairman. He would have had all the power. Boards exist for a reason, and they are not supposed to interfere in the day to day running of the organisation.

Adam Ashley Cooper added to the team, would liek to see him at 12...

Forwards - Jermaine Ainsley, Allan Alaalatoa, Rory Arnold, Adam Coleman, Jack Dempsey, Folau Faingaa, Ned Hanigan, Jed Holloway, Michael Hooper (captain), Sekope Kepu, Tolu Latu, Brandon Paenga-Amosa, David Pocock, Izack Rodda, Rob Simmons, Pete Samu, Scott Sio, Taniela Tupou

Backs - Adam Ashley-Cooper, Tom Banks, Kurtley Beale, Israel Folau, Bernard Foley, Will Genia, Jake Gordon*, Dane Haylett-Petty, Samu Kerevi, Marika Koroibete, Jack Maddocks, Sefa Naivalu, Jordan Petaia*, Nick Phipps, Matt Toomua

Development player - Rob Valetini*

I hope Jordan Petaia gets a run against Italy. I'd love to see him get a good hit out at this level.

My backline for Wales would be:

9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Falonk
12. Beale (Foley needs a second playmaker)
13. Kerevi
14. Whatever Fijian winger passes a simple test of passing and catching. Both are fairly limited players. Maybe Banks/Maddocks?
15. DHP

I think Korobeite has skills. He can catch and offload well.
Could be worth a look at 13 at some point.
Good to see Petaia and Valentini on the plane. No Angus Cottrell? What has the guy got to do?
Ainsley is nowhere near test quality. Slipper should be the extra prop if for nothing else than to challenge the 4 in the 23.

Its a training squad with the actual squad to be picked at the end of the week before they head to Wales.

wamberal99 wrote:

grievous wrote:So Clyne and the co cvnts putting out a statement backing Cheika and his coaching team to the WC. So lose every game between now and the World Cup Cheika is safe. Funny about what Clyne steps out of the shadows to make a statement on.
Obviously the Arg game has been an aberration in their eyes.

They had a choice, didn't they? Either sack him now, or back him until after the World Cup.


Would you have sacked him now? If so, who would you have appointed as national coach? And, by the way, it is the CEO's call, not "Clyne and Co".


There was a reason that JON wanted to be appointed Executive Chairman. He would have had all the power. Boards exist for a reason, and they are not supposed to interfere in the day to day running of the organisation.

Someone has to stand up for every poor decision RA make I suppose.