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Beaver_Shark wrote:Gee that's tough luck for Lood.

Having said that, our lock stocks look very healthy at the moment.

Mostert, PSDT, Botha, Schickerling, Snyman.

Beaver_Shark wrote:Gee that's tough luck for Lood.

Having said that, our lock stocks look very healthy at the moment.

Mostert, PSDT, Botha, Schickerling, Snyman.

saffer13 wrote:PSDT/Snyman as first choice Bok pair now?

Faf de Klerk and Don Armand have made the five-man shortlist for the English Premiership Player of the Season award.

De Klerk has been the Sale Sharks’ star performer this season, while Armand has had another consistent campaign for the Exeter Chiefs.

Three of the four Premiership semi-final teams are represented, with the Chiefs’ Armand, Danny Cipriani of Wasps and the Newcastle Falcons’ Vereniki Goneva making it onto the shortlist. Saracens are the only team in the last four with no player in contention for the award.

De Klerk and the Northampton Saints’ Jamie Gibson – two of only four players to feature in all 22 rounds on the competition – complete the quintet.

Chilli wrote:

Beaver_Shark wrote:Gee that's tough luck for Lood.

Having said that, our lock stocks look very healthy at the moment.

Mostert, PSDT, Botha, Schickerling, Snyman.

Van Zyl, Ferreira, Erasmus are all good players as well.

Sards wrote:I hear they are talking about choosing the best team instead of the best players....

These province administrators and coaches and scribes are fu cking losing it.

sunnybanana wrote:

Chilli wrote:

Beaver_Shark wrote:Gee that's tough luck for Lood.

Having said that, our lock stocks look very healthy at the moment.

Mostert, PSDT, Botha, Schickerling, Snyman.

Van Zyl, Ferreira, Erasmus are all good players as well.

Those 3 are way off test standard. Plenty others playing great rugby in Europe though - Janse van Rensburg, Willemse, Grobler, Kleyn...

Jensrsa wrote:

Sards wrote:I hear they are talking about choosing the best team instead of the best players....

These province administrators and coaches and scribes are fu cking losing it.

Considering that the Saffer teams with the "best players" keep losing to the Saffer side with the "best team" it kinda makes sense, don't you think?

Chilli wrote:

Jensrsa wrote:

Sards wrote:I hear they are talking about choosing the best team instead of the best players....

These province administrators and coaches and scribes are fu cking losing it.

Considering that the Saffer teams with the "best players" keep losing to the Saffer side with the "best team" it kinda makes sense, don't you think?

Jens, the best team, with the best players, the best coach, the best tactics keep on losing to the other Saffer teams.
Don't quite understand it.

This is a great team. We are going to go a long way.

Jensrsa wrote:

Chilli wrote:

Jensrsa wrote:

Sards wrote:I hear they are talking about choosing the best team instead of the best players....

These province administrators and coaches and scribes are fu cking losing it.

Considering that the Saffer teams with the "best players" keep losing to the Saffer side with the "best team" it kinda makes sense, don't you think?

Jens, the best team, with the best players, the best coach, the best tactics keep on losing to the other Saffer teams.
Don't quite understand it.

Who said:

This is a great team. We are going to go a long way.

this weekend?

Chilli wrote:

Jensrsa wrote:

Chilli wrote:

Jensrsa wrote:

Sards wrote:I hear they are talking about choosing the best team instead of the best players....

These province administrators and coaches and scribes are fu cking losing it.

Considering that the Saffer teams with the "best players" keep losing to the Saffer side with the "best team" it kinda makes sense, don't you think?

Jens, the best team, with the best players, the best coach, the best tactics keep on losing to the other Saffer teams.
Don't quite understand it.

Who said:

This is a great team. We are going to go a long way.

this weekend?

Ox [or his multi]?

Sards wrote:All those putting the boot in.....heres a thought........fu ck you.
You are all just as shit.

Sards wrote:All those putting the boot in.....heres a thought........fu ck you.
You are all just as shit.

englishchief wrote:Out of the 4 SA teams, you'd back the Sharks as being the most likely to beat an NZ team in NZ.

Chilli wrote:

englishchief wrote:Out of the 4 SA teams, you'd back the Sharks as being the most likely to beat an NZ team in NZ.

You would yes Ox.

Sards wrote:

Chilli wrote:

englishchief wrote:Out of the 4 SA teams, you'd back the Sharks as being the most likely to beat an NZ team in NZ.

You would yes Ox.

The only team really with any realistic chance.
If an Aussie side was topping the log I would say the Lions followed by the Bulls and then the Stormers.

Chilli wrote:

Sards wrote:

Chilli wrote:

englishchief wrote:Out of the 4 SA teams, you'd back the Sharks as being the most likely to beat an NZ team in NZ.

You would yes Ox.

The only team really with any realistic chance.
If an Aussie side was topping the log I would say the Lions followed by the Bulls and then the Stormers.

The only team with any realistic chance will be the one with enough points to qualify for the knock out stages.

Sards wrote:

Chilli wrote:

Sards wrote:

Chilli wrote:

englishchief wrote:Out of the 4 SA teams, you'd back the Sharks as being the most likely to beat an NZ team in NZ.

You would yes Ox.

The only team really with any realistic chance.
If an Aussie side was topping the log I would say the Lions followed by the Bulls and then the Stormers.

The only team with any realistic chance will be the one with enough points to qualify for the knock out stages.

of course history will show the net result

Bok pack to face England
With England set to run out of the tunnel at Ellis Park in a little over three weeks, the AOR team compares notes on a potential Springbok squad, beginning with the forwards.

Front row
Tank Lanning: Steven Kitshoff, Bismarck du Plessis, Wilco Louw
Given the various pressures on new coach Rassie Erasmus, the Bok side will suffer some sort of compromise, but that cannot happen in the front row. Sans Marx and Etzebeth, and an out-and-out fetcher, the Boks will need Bismarck’s muscle and stealing ability. Alongside him are the strongest scrummagers available.

Zelím Nel: Beast Mtawarira, Adriaan Strauss, Trevor Nyakane
Os du Randt retired when he was 35. During his final three seasons, he won a Tri-Nations title and a World Cup. Mtawarira, SA’s most-capped prop, is 32 and he’s finding form.

Nyakane is also pulling out of a lull and it’s time to get a final answer on whether the 37-capper is capable of anchoring the scrum in a starting role. Here’s why I’d pick Strauss.

Locks
Tank: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Ruan Botha
Du Toit is a dead cert, Botha is the bolter. The safe option is Mostert, the rangy option is Snyman, both of whom would do the Boks proud. But the edgy option is Botha, as long as he can stay on the park!

Zels: RG Snyman, Pieter-Steph du Toit
In the absence of Eben Etzebeth and Lood de Jager, Snyman partners Du Toit in what may be his only shot to climb into the top three on this list of world-class locks.

Back row
Tank: Siya Kolisi, Jean-Luc du Preez, Duane Vermeulen
I would play an out-and-out fetcher like Louw, Roelof Smit or Marco van Staden, all of whom would balance out a trio with Du Preez and Vermeulen perfectly, but the 2018 Boks simply cannot put out an all-white pack. Given Du Plessis’ skill at the breakdown, Kolisi adds an athletic, ball-carrying balance. The other option is to play Kolisi at 8, and a fetcher at 6.

Zels: Roelof Smit, Jean-Luc du Preez, Duane Vermeulen (c)
Only Malcolm Marx has won more turnovers than Smit during Super Rugby this season. He Smit completes a back row of thumpers assembled to own the collisions on both sides of the ball. Vermeulen captains the team, points to the poles when the Boks win a kickable penalty and demands elite levels of efficiency on defence.

Bench
Tank: Akker van der Merwe, Beast Mtawarira, Trevor Nyakane, Jason Jenkins, Roelof Smit
Nyakane is a real risk come scrum time, but he adds value as a ball carrying impact player. Akker is impact personified, and really deserves a look in. Smit gives Rassie the option of bringing on a fetcher if needed, while Jenkins – a real stand out in Super Rugby this year – covers both lock and loose forward.

Zels: Ashley Johnson, Steven Kitshoff, Wilco Louw, Jacques du Plessis, Dan du Preez
Wasps won six of seven successive matches with Johnson at hooker this season. If he’s cleared to play, Johnson has potential value as the third-choice rake in 2019.

Kitshoff is the future, but the Boks get more out of him coming off the bench for Beast than the other way round. Louw is where Nyakane was in 2014 – a shiny new toy with lots of potential, but only five Test caps to his name.

Du Plessis is a versatile, athletic option that doesn’t come with a size compromise (2.01m, 120kgs). With Vermeulen covering No 6, Du Preez wins a tight race to reinforce 7 or 8.

Close but no cigar
Tank: Chiliboy Ralepelle, Scarra Ntubeni, Ox Nche, JC Janse van Rensburg, Vincent Koch, Frans Malherbe, Franco Mostert, RG Snyman, Marco van Staden, Francois Louw, Dan du Preez.

The backs will be unveiled next week – what are the biggest changes you would make to the two packs chosen?

Sards wrote:Notice how Zels is the only one to pick Kolisis in his side.....


What are these people thinking.....


Kolisi...my captain....Captain Heart.....Captain humble

saffer13 wrote:

Sards wrote:Notice how Zels is the only one to pick Kolisis in his side.....


What are these people thinking.....


Kolisi...my captain....Captain Heart.....Captain humble

You make it sound like there are 25 people picking sides...there are only two, Sards...50%

Average Joe wrote:It's also not Zels that picked him but Tank.

Sards wrote:

Average Joe wrote:It's also not Zels that picked him but Tank.

wtf.....I am getting old........

Almost as old as Sauce

Good chap Tank....


Kolisi ......captain courageous.....have you seen how eloquent he is in post match interviews.....

handyman wrote:Who is going to secure turnovers?

Chilli wrote:When on form I would pick Kolisi or at least have him on the bench, but right now his form is crap.

saffer13 wrote:

Chilli wrote:When on form I would pick Kolisi or at least have him on the bench, but right now his form is crap.

Sure but as mentioned, who has really put their hand up to replace him? I also don't quite agree with the "his form is crap" comment but the team in general is playing kak rugby. I blame Fleck.

saffer13 wrote:

Chilli wrote:When on form I would pick Kolisi or at least have him on the bench, but right now his form is crap.

Sure but as mentioned, who has really put their hand up to replace him? I also don't quite agree with the "his form is crap" comment but the team in general is playing kak rugby. I blame Fleck.

Chilli wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

Chilli wrote:When on form I would pick Kolisi or at least have him on the bench, but right now his form is crap.

Sure but as mentioned, who has really put their hand up to replace him? I also don't quite agree with the "his form is crap" comment but the team in general is playing kak rugby. I blame Fleck.

Uhm, have you heard of a player called Roelof Smit?

Yank, Kolisi is playing crap in a team that is playing crap. Whereas JLDP is playing well in a team thst is playing crap.

saffer13 wrote:

Chilli wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

Chilli wrote:When on form I would pick Kolisi or at least have him on the bench, but right now his form is crap.

Sure but as mentioned, who has really put their hand up to replace him? I also don't quite agree with the "his form is crap" comment but the team in general is playing kak rugby. I blame Fleck.

Uhm, have you heard of a player called Roelof Smit?

Yank, Kolisi is playing crap in a team that is playing crap. Whereas JLDP is playing well in a team thst is playing crap.

Smit has had a good season. Enough to be called up? I would be fine with him getting selected.