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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:31 am 
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Freddy Mendez
Gary Pagel
Michael Classens and Butch James but only as a double act
Samu Manoa
Juandre Kruger
Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe
Va'aiga Tuigamala
Augustin Creevy
Jacques Burger
Neil de Kock
Ian Jones
George Smith

A range on longevity there on some names I hadn't noted mentioned earlier. Though tbh I'd perhaps vote for Nick Evans, and then do the sensible thing and vote for Pat Lam


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:50 am 
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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Cullen didn't play in the AP.


ah yeah, misread the thread, thought it was SH into NH not just England - soz


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:24 pm 
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True Blue wrote:
Whatever happened to Chris Jack anyway? He was supposed to be the next great thing, but Ali Williams seemed to eclipse him and then he seems to have just vanished.


Chris Jack was awful here. Took the cash was lazy and had a shit attitude. Kris Chesney kept him out of the team , and made him look average. Compared with other kiwi locks like Brad Thorn who were popular with the teams and fans, Chris Jack sadly was a big disappointment


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:26 pm 
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Whatever happened to Chris Jack anyway? He was supposed to be the next great thing, but Ali Williams seemed to eclipse him and then he seems to have just vanished.


Chris Jack was awful here. Took the cash was lazy and had a shit attitude. Kris Chesney kept him out of the team , and made him look average. Compared with other kiwi locks like Brad Thorn who were popular with the teams and fans, Chris Jack sadly was a big disappointment


Better value for money than Stephen Donald?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:54 pm 
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Peter Roussow was awful for Irish esp given his reputation
Daniel Cootzee Rautenbach and Ryan Strudwick wee excellent for Irish. Leguzamon was hot & cold but had the memorable comedy moment
Brits is a wonderful player and comes across as an even better bloke.
Exe Argie winger Cordero reminded me of him as his footwork is similarly superb.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:44 pm 
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Jacques Burger was immense for Sarries, the absolute head case.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:55 am 
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Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:07 am 
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Zakar wrote:
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Buck Shelford basically dragged Saints to the top level of English rugby by himself.

If only they could find someone like him today.....

He was going to be my suggestion too. From all respects Umaga did a similar thing with Toulon in France - well, after him they spent big but when he was there he reinvigorated the team - and helped increase the gate in all their opponents (in the 2nd dvi I think) home games.

Returning to the OP, I still can't believe that Gopperth suddenly became good.


With due respect to Umaga, Toulon bought quite heavy that year(including George Gregan), so it was hardly a solo mission like Buck .

Umaga was there before all the big name signings, before he went back as coach.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:09 am 
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UncleFB wrote:
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Buck Shelford basically dragged Saints to the top level of English rugby by himself.

If only they could find someone like him today.....

He was going to be my suggestion too. From all respects Umaga did a similar thing with Toulon in France - well, after him they spent big but when he was there he reinvigorated the team - and helped increase the gate in all their opponents (in the 2nd dvi I think) home games.

Returning to the OP, I still can't believe that Gopperth suddenly became good.


With due respect to Umaga, Toulon bought quite heavy that year(including George Gregan), so it was hardly a solo mission like Buck .

Umaga was there before all the big name signings, before he went back as coach.


Maybe, but there were plenty of big name signings on the roster the year they won D2 and got promoted.


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Joe Schmidt, Verne Cotter, Warren Gatland, Brendan Laney.


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ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Joe Schmidt, Verne Cotter, Brendan Laney.

England? :?


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Gospel wrote:
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Joe Schmidt, Verne Cotter, Brendan Laney.

England? :?


Let the Kiwis have their moment.


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Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:
Junior Paramore


One of my earliest memories was this guy running around Joe Roff to score an amazing try.


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Zakar wrote:
Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.


he did tackle with his face though.

leftfield choice here - George Harder for Quins


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backrow wrote:
Zakar wrote:
Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.


he did tackle with his face though.

leftfield choice here - George Harder for Quins


Way behind Tani Fuga and Andre Vos, let alone Nick Evans...


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Gospel wrote:
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Joe Schmidt, Verne Cotter, Brendan Laney.

England? :?

I could have sworn that it was “to the NH” at one point. Never mind. The sheer magnificence and proximity of Chainsaw Laney should be enough.


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JM2K6 wrote:
backrow wrote:
Zakar wrote:
Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.


he did tackle with his face though.

leftfield choice here - George Harder for Quins


Way behind Tani Fuga and Andre Vos, let alone Nick Evans...


And for players only here for a short period I'd rate David Wilson ahead of Harder


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:48 pm 
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piquant wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
backrow wrote:
Zakar wrote:
Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.


he did tackle with his face though.

leftfield choice here - George Harder for Quins


Way behind Tani Fuga and Andre Vos, let alone Nick Evans...


And for players only here for a short period I'd rate David Wilson ahead of Harder


ah, Harder was playing when I first started to watch quins, and he was a beast, smashing people left right & centre.


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Reihana has to be in there, an absolute legend at Saints. Now skills coach at Bristol I just found out!

Seems like the others have all been mentioned: Mujati, Tonga'uiha, Kruger, Lam, Shelford, Spencer, Lobbe.

Tim Horan, John Smit, Akapusi Qera, Francois Hougaard, Seru Rabeni, Epi Taione and David Lemi are all worth a mention.


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Simon Shaw has to be first choice 4 (born in Nairobi, 100 km into the SH)


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Trevor Leota, Aaron Mauger, Darryl Gibson


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What about Ayerza?


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