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Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:48 pm
by Wendigo7
Tuigimala?
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:54 pm
by openclashXX
If we're going for a XV (fill in the gaps)
15 Latham
14 Goneva/A Tuilagi
13
12 Mapasua
11 Lemi
10 Evans
9 de Kock/Claassens
8 E Joubert
7 Salvi
6 Fernandez Lobbe
5
4
3 Hayman
2 Brits
1 Ayerza
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:56 pm
by DragsterDriver
Joost wrote:DragsterDriver wrote:jabberwocky wrote:Without looking, anyone want to guess the top three try scoring SH imports (top five if playing for England disqualifies them)? Clue: no-one has mentioned any of them yet.
Flutey?
Joe Maddock bagged quite a few for Bath?
Vainikolo?
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:00 pm
by Brumby_in_Vic
Ian Jones and Horwill have put in good spells in the row.
Bruce Reihana would have to be up there with the likes of Goneva, Tagibackibau, Rabeni in terms of tries scored.
A worst XV will be interesting to fill
15.
14.
13.
12. De Wet Barry
11.
10. Botica/Stephen Donald
9. Piri Weepu
8.
7.
6. Epi Taoine
5. Chris Jack
4. Geo Cronje
3. John Afoa
2. Jeremy Paul
1.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:02 pm
by DragsterDriver
DragsterDriver wrote:Joost wrote:DragsterDriver wrote:jabberwocky wrote:Without looking, anyone want to guess the top three try scoring SH imports (top five if playing for England disqualifies them)? Clue: no-one has mentioned any of them yet.
Flutey?
Joe Maddock bagged quite a few for Bath?
Vainikolo?
Waldrum!
He scored shitloads.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:11 pm
by DragsterDriver
Glen Jackson was steady but a decent import.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:18 pm
by Brumby_in_Vic
Pat Lam scored at least 29 tries which is high for an import forward.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:19 pm
by Saint
DragsterDriver wrote:DragsterDriver wrote:Joost wrote:DragsterDriver wrote:jabberwocky wrote:Without looking, anyone want to guess the top three try scoring SH imports (top five if playing for England disqualifies them)? Clue: no-one has mentioned any of them yet.
Flutey?
Joe Maddock bagged quite a few for Bath?
Vainikolo?
Waldrum!
He scored shitloads.
Can a poach be a SH import?
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:24 pm
by openclashXX
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
A worst XV will be interesting to fill
15.
14.
13.
12. De Wet Barry
11.
10. Botica/Stephen Donald
9.
8.
7.
6.
5. Chris Jack
4. Geo Cronje
3.
2. Jeremy Paul
1.
Jimmy Cowan and Piri Weepu tied at 9, Afoa at tighthead
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:31 pm
by Smee
pandion wrote:
Howard
Great shout..... Real lynchpin on those 98-01 Tigers teams that were always depleted due to having so many players on England duty.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:46 pm
by message #2527204
openclashXX wrote:If we're going for a XV (fill in the gaps)
15 Latham
14 Goneva/A Tuilagi
13
12 Mapasua
11 Lemi
10 Evans
9 de Kock/Claassens
8 E Joubert
7 Salvi
6 Fernandez Lobbe
5
4
3 Hayman
2 Brits
1 Ayerza
5 Fernadez Lobbe .. and you have to find room for Reihana
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:47 pm
by Saint
message #2527204 wrote:openclashXX wrote:If we're going for a XV (fill in the gaps)
15 Latham
14 Goneva/A Tuilagi
13
12 Mapasua
11 Lemi
10 Evans
9 de Kock/Claassens
8 E Joubert
7 Salvi
6 Fernandez Lobbe
5
4
3 Hayman
2 Brits
1 Ayerza
5 Fernadez Lobbe .. and you have to find room for Reihana
Bruce played at 13 more than a few times for us
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:57 pm
by Mick Mannock
There was at least one excellent SA lock at Saints. And Van Heerden at Tigers.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:02 pm
by Mick Mannock
Krueger at Saints
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:15 pm
by Nieghorn
If you're looking for a lock, why not Hargreaves?
Terry Fanolua (Gloucester) for outside centre?
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:28 pm
by Diego
Elvis Seveali'i was a solid 13 at Sale and Irish.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:39 pm
by Magpie26
Buck Shelford basically dragged Saints to the top level of English rugby by himself.
If only they could find someone like him today.....
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:09 pm
by De Damp Slaphead
For some reason, this thread reminds me of the famous Heyman this, Heyman thaat post...
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:09 pm
by Saint
Funnily enough, I suspect Rob Horne will be viewed on a similar level in the long run
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:28 pm
by openclashXX
Of the current Prem players, I think Sinoti Sinoti and Telusa Veanu have the potential to join the best import XV, and Schalk Burger the potential to join the worst
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:36 pm
by Wilderbeast
I thought Elsom did well up north but I haven’t seen him mentioned?
Edit: he went to Ireland didn’t he? My bad.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:31 pm
by terangi48
Schmidt, Gatland, Rennie, Lam, Cotter, Mauger, Pivac,.......to name a few
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:03 am
by Sawtooth the Beaver
Junior Paramore
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:05 pm
by paddywack
Saint wrote:message #2527204 wrote:openclashXX wrote:If we're going for a XV (fill in the gaps)
15 Latham
14 Goneva/A Tuilagi
13
12 Mapasua
11 Lemi
10 Evans
9 de Kock/Claassens
8 E Joubert
7 Salvi
6 Fernandez Lobbe
5
4
3 Hayman
2 Brits
1 Ayerza
5 Fernadez Lobbe .. and you have to find room for Reihana
Bruce played at 13 more than a few times for us
Alaister Hargreaves and Jacque Burger deserve consideration
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:51 pm
by True Blue
Whatever happened to Chris Jack anyway? He was supposed to be the next great thing, but Ali Williams seemed to eclipse him and then he seems to have just vanished.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:52 pm
by JM2K6
Jake Boer, Andre Vos
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:54 pm
by Audi
Michael Lynagh? Francois Pienaar? Zinzan Brooke?
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:03 pm
by goose81
Wilderbeast wrote:I thought Elsom did well up north but I haven’t seen him mentioned?
Edit: he went to Ireland didn’t he? My bad.
He was utterly phenomenal for Leinster, then he left and just disappeared. I thought he would go back to Aussie and be a great captain but he just dissapeared. What happened to him when he got back? Did he even make the team
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:13 am
by LandOTurk
Strangely worded question.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:58 am
by The Native
goose81 wrote:Wilderbeast wrote:I thought Elsom did well up north but I haven’t seen him mentioned?
Edit: he went to Ireland didn’t he? My bad.
He was utterly phenomenal for Leinster, then he left and just disappeared. I thought he would go back to Aussie and be a great captain but he just dissapeared. What happened to him when he got back? Did he even make the team
He made the Wallabies and he was gash.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:17 am
by UncleFB
Magpie26 wrote:Buck Shelford basically dragged Saints to the top level of English rugby by himself.
If only they could find someone like him today.....
He was going to be my suggestion too. From all respects Umaga did a similar thing with Toulon in France - well, after him they spent big but when he was there he reinvigorated the team - and helped increase the gate in all their opponents (in the 2nd dvi I think) home games.
Returning to the OP, I still can't believe that Gopperth suddenly became good.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:07 am
by Zakar
UncleFB wrote:Magpie26 wrote:Buck Shelford basically dragged Saints to the top level of English rugby by himself.
If only they could find someone like him today.....
He was going to be my suggestion too. From all respects Umaga did a similar thing with Toulon in France - well, after him they spent big but when he was there he reinvigorated the team - and helped increase the gate in all their opponents (in the 2nd dvi I think) home games.
Returning to the OP, I still can't believe that Gopperth suddenly became good.
With due respect to Umaga, Toulon bought quite heavy that year(including George Gregan), so it was hardly a solo mission like Buck .
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:56 am
by RodneyRegis
Matfield...
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:14 am
by Gospel
UncleFB wrote:Returning to the OP, I still can't believe that Gopperth suddenly became good.
He's a pretty uninspiring 10 but has played really well at 12 for Wasps.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:21 am
by backrow
Sella, Lynagh, Tuigamala where good early pro era imports
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:22 am
by backrow
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Ian Jones and Horwill have put in good spells in the row.
Bruce Reihana would have to be up there with the likes of Goneva, Tagibackibau, Rabeni in terms of tries scored.
A worst XV will be interesting to fill
15.
14.
13.
12. De Wet Barry
11.
10. Botica/Stephen Donald
9. Piri Weepu
8.
7.
6. Epi Taoine
5. Chris Jack
4. Geo Cronje
3. John Afoa
2. Jeremy Paul
1.
Christian Cullen at FB ? he was broken when he went to Munster
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:28 am
by Brumby_in_Vic
Cullen didn't play in the AP.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:31 am
by piquant
Freddy Mendez
Gary Pagel
Michael Classens and Butch James but only as a double act
Samu Manoa
Juandre Kruger
Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe
Va'aiga Tuigamala
Augustin Creevy
Jacques Burger
Neil de Kock
Ian Jones
George Smith
A range on longevity there on some names I hadn't noted mentioned earlier. Though tbh I'd perhaps vote for Nick Evans, and then do the sensible thing and vote for Pat Lam
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:50 am
by backrow
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Cullen didn't play in the AP.
ah yeah, misread the thread, thought it was SH into NH not just England - soz
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:24 pm
by paddywack
True Blue wrote:Whatever happened to Chris Jack anyway? He was supposed to be the next great thing, but Ali Williams seemed to eclipse him and then he seems to have just vanished.
Chris Jack was awful here. Took the cash was lazy and had a shit attitude. Kris Chesney kept him out of the team , and made him look average. Compared with other kiwi locks like Brad Thorn who were popular with the teams and fans, Chris Jack sadly was a big disappointment