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Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:26 pm
by piquant
paddywack wrote:True Blue wrote:Whatever happened to Chris Jack anyway? He was supposed to be the next great thing, but Ali Williams seemed to eclipse him and then he seems to have just vanished.
Chris Jack was awful here. Took the cash was lazy and had a shit attitude. Kris Chesney kept him out of the team , and made him look average. Compared with other kiwi locks like Brad Thorn who were popular with the teams and fans, Chris Jack sadly was a big disappointment
Better value for money than Stephen Donald?
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:54 pm
by Portcullis Irish
Peter Roussow was awful for Irish esp given his reputation
Daniel Cootzee Rautenbach and Ryan Strudwick wee excellent for Irish. Leguzamon was hot & cold but had the memorable comedy moment
Brits is a wonderful player and comes across as an even better bloke.
Exe Argie winger Cordero reminded me of him as his footwork is similarly superb.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:44 pm
by Plastic Sarrie
Jacques Burger was immense for Sarries, the absolute head case.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 am
by Phredd
Mark van Gisbergen
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:55 am
by Zakar
Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:07 am
by UncleFB
Zakar wrote:UncleFB wrote:Magpie26 wrote:Buck Shelford basically dragged Saints to the top level of English rugby by himself.
If only they could find someone like him today.....
He was going to be my suggestion too. From all respects Umaga did a similar thing with Toulon in France - well, after him they spent big but when he was there he reinvigorated the team - and helped increase the gate in all their opponents (in the 2nd dvi I think) home games.
Returning to the OP, I still can't believe that Gopperth suddenly became good.
With due respect to Umaga, Toulon bought quite heavy that year(including George Gregan), so it was hardly a solo mission like Buck .
Umaga was there before all the big name signings, before he went back as coach.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:09 am
by Zakar
UncleFB wrote:Zakar wrote:UncleFB wrote:Magpie26 wrote:Buck Shelford basically dragged Saints to the top level of English rugby by himself.
If only they could find someone like him today.....
He was going to be my suggestion too. From all respects Umaga did a similar thing with Toulon in France - well, after him they spent big but when he was there he reinvigorated the team - and helped increase the gate in all their opponents (in the 2nd dvi I think) home games.
Returning to the OP, I still can't believe that Gopperth suddenly became good.
With due respect to Umaga, Toulon bought quite heavy that year(including George Gregan), so it was hardly a solo mission like Buck .
Umaga was there before all the big name signings, before he went back as coach.
Maybe, but there were plenty of big name signings on the roster the year they won D2 and got promoted.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:13 am
by ScarfaceClaw
Joe Schmidt, Verne Cotter, Warren Gatland, Brendan Laney.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:35 am
by Gospel
ScarfaceClaw wrote:Joe Schmidt, Verne Cotter, Brendan Laney.
England?
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:42 pm
by JM2K6
Gospel wrote:ScarfaceClaw wrote:Joe Schmidt, Verne Cotter, Brendan Laney.
England?
Let the Kiwis have their moment.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:59 pm
by Dryden
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:Junior Paramore
One of my earliest memories was this guy running around Joe Roff to score an amazing try.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:07 pm
by backrow
Zakar wrote:Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.
he did tackle with his face though.
leftfield choice here - George Harder for Quins
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:23 pm
by JM2K6
backrow wrote:Zakar wrote:Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.
he did tackle with his face though.
leftfield choice here - George Harder for Quins
Way behind Tani Fuga and Andre Vos, let alone Nick Evans...
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:29 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Gospel wrote:ScarfaceClaw wrote:Joe Schmidt, Verne Cotter, Brendan Laney.
England? :?
I could have sworn that it was “to the NH” at one point. Never mind. The sheer magnificence and proximity of Chainsaw Laney should be enough.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:30 pm
by piquant
JM2K6 wrote:backrow wrote:Zakar wrote:Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.
he did tackle with his face though.
leftfield choice here - George Harder for Quins
Way behind Tani Fuga and Andre Vos, let alone Nick Evans...
And for players only here for a short period I'd rate David Wilson ahead of Harder
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:48 pm
by backrow
piquant wrote:JM2K6 wrote:backrow wrote:Zakar wrote:Jaques Burger is a really good shout. Constantly top quality, for a huge amount of seasons for Sarries, not an end of career Swan song.
he did tackle with his face though.
leftfield choice here - George Harder for Quins
Way behind Tani Fuga and Andre Vos, let alone Nick Evans...
And for players only here for a short period I'd rate David Wilson ahead of Harder
ah, Harder was playing when I first started to watch quins, and he was a beast, smashing people left right & centre.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:56 pm
by Angry_Bull
Reihana has to be in there, an absolute legend at Saints. Now skills coach at Bristol I just found out!
Seems like the others have all been mentioned: Mujati, Tonga'uiha, Kruger, Lam, Shelford, Spencer, Lobbe.
Tim Horan, John Smit, Akapusi Qera, Francois Hougaard, Seru Rabeni, Epi Taione and David Lemi are all worth a mention.
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:01 pm
by Causeway
Simon Shaw has to be first choice 4 (born in Nairobi, 100 km into the SH)
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:08 pm
by Audi
Trevor Leota, Aaron Mauger, Darryl Gibson
Re: Brits-best SH import to England?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:03 pm
by Zakar
What about Ayerza?