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Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:01 am
by OupaStruisbaai
Jensrsa wrote:
Robbie Fleck's side has been struggling with a number of injuries this season, especially in the backline. However, they should be bolstered in that area for their encounter against the Sharks in Durban.

"There are guys back who have never played yet so some of them will play for [Western Province coach] John Dobson in the first National Provincial Challenge game [against Eastern Province], but we got three or more people to choose from, which will be good," said assistant coach Paul Feeney.

"Jean-Luc du Plessis needs a week with John Dobson obviously, but we would like to think that JJ Engelbrecht, Dan Kriel and Duvies [Dewaldt Duvenage] will be back [for the Sharks clash], so it is certainly a good time to welcome back a few people. We have been a bit short on numbers at times.

"Frans [Malherbe] is good to go, so we are certainly in a better spot on that side of things than where we were two weeks ago."
http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/sup ... r-stormers
Will be great to have Dewaldt & Frans back. Our bench and starting frontrows will be equally strong.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:47 pm
by saffer13
OomPB wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Robbie Fleck's side has been struggling with a number of injuries this season, especially in the backline. However, they should be bolstered in that area for their encounter against the Sharks in Durban.

"There are guys back who have never played yet so some of them will play for [Western Province coach] John Dobson in the first National Provincial Challenge game [against Eastern Province], but we got three or more people to choose from, which will be good," said assistant coach Paul Feeney.

"Jean-Luc du Plessis needs a week with John Dobson obviously, but we would like to think that JJ Engelbrecht, Dan Kriel and Duvies [Dewaldt Duvenage] will be back [for the Sharks clash], so it is certainly a good time to welcome back a few people. We have been a bit short on numbers at times.

"Frans [Malherbe] is good to go, so we are certainly in a better spot on that side of things than where we were two weeks ago."
http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/sup ... r-stormers
Will be great to have Dewaldt & Frans back. Our bench and starting frontrows will be equally strong.
I was really hoping to not see Kriel's name this season though.

Any news about Dan duP?

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:08 pm
by houtkabouter
Sards wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:
Reiki oil?

:lol: ...... Reiki is done without touch lad....its pure energy. Listen...I had a treatment last night and this morning my sinus is cleared and I am back at work. The same happened last week but it recurred after abfew days so will probably have another treatment tonight to reinforce it.

;)
Reiki lasers are being aligned with fairy crystals and you’re having an aural response.

Sniff some crushed garlic and lick an orange skin you’ll be okay.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:28 pm
by Sards
saffer13 wrote: I was really hoping to not see Kriel's name this season though.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ever wrong about the centres my Yankee poo

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:28 pm
by Sards
houtkabouter wrote: Reiki lasers are being aligned with fairy crystals and you’re having an aural response.

Sniff some crushed garlic and lick an orange skin you’ll be okay.
:lol:

I smell your jealousy jou varkhond

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:39 pm
by beachboy
saffer13 wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Robbie Fleck's side has been struggling with a number of injuries this season, especially in the backline. However, they should be bolstered in that area for their encounter against the Sharks in Durban.

"There are guys back who have never played yet so some of them will play for [Western Province coach] John Dobson in the first National Provincial Challenge game [against Eastern Province], but we got three or more people to choose from, which will be good," said assistant coach Paul Feeney.

"Jean-Luc du Plessis needs a week with John Dobson obviously, but we would like to think that JJ Engelbrecht, Dan Kriel and Duvies [Dewaldt Duvenage] will be back [for the Sharks clash], so it is certainly a good time to welcome back a few people. We have been a bit short on numbers at times.

"Frans [Malherbe] is good to go, so we are certainly in a better spot on that side of things than where we were two weeks ago."
http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/sup ... r-stormers
Will be great to have Dewaldt & Frans back. Our bench and starting frontrows will be equally strong.
I was really hoping to not see Kriel's name this season though.

Any news about Dan duP?
Couldn't agree with you more. Kriel is awful. I have a good feeling for this Saturday, just hope Wiese recovers he is a great talent.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:39 am
by Jensrsa
The Cell C Sharks

1 Juan Schoeman
2. Chiliboy Ralepelle
3. Thomas du Toit
4. Ruan Botha (Captain)
5. Stephan Lewies
6. Philip van der Walt
7. Jean-Luc du Preez
8. Daniel du Preez

9. Cameron Wright
10. Robert du Preez
11.Makazole Mapimpi
12. Andre Esterhuizen
13. Lukhanyo Am
14. Sbu Nkosi
15. Curwin Bosch

16. Akker van der Merwe
17. Mzamo Majola
18. Ross Geldenhuys
19. Tyler Paul
20. Jacques Vermeulen
21. Louis Schreuder
22. Marius Louw
23. Lwazi Mvovo

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:45 am
by OupaStruisbaai
Why oh Why did they dropped Louis Schreuder. :( :( :(

Its a very strong Sharks team.

Springbok backline.

Sharks by 50

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:46 am
by handyman
Cannot wait for this. Sharks up for avatar bets?

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:16 am
by Jensrsa
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Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:20 am
by sunnybanana
Jens, I think you’re lost.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:25 am
by Jensrsa
sunnybanana wrote:Jens, I think you’re lost.
:lol:

I did

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:48 am
by Sards
Strong Stormers side...


Bok backline

Stormers by 50

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:48 pm
by saffer13
Jensrsa wrote:The Cell C Sharks

1 Juan Schoeman
2. Chiliboy Ralepelle
3. Thomas du Toit
4. Ruan Botha (Captain)
5. Stephan Lewies
6. Philip van der Walt
7. Jean-Luc du Preez
8. Daniel du Preez

9. Cameron Wright
10. Robert du Preez
11.Makazole Mapimpi
12. Andre Esterhuizen
13. Lukhanyo Am
14. Sbu Nkosi
15. Curwin Bosch

16. Akker van der Merwe
17. Mzamo Majola
18. Ross Geldenhuys
19. Tyler Paul
20. Jacques Vermeulen
21. Louis Schreuder
22. Marius Louw
23. Lwazi Mvovo
Nepotism alive and well at the sharks.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:43 pm
by Sards
saffer13 wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:The Cell C Sharks

1 Juan du Preez
2. Chiliboy Ralepelle
3. Thomas du Preez
4. Ruan Botha (Captain)
5. Stephan du Preez
6. Philip van der Walt
7. Jean-Luc du Preez
8. Daniel du Preez

9. Cameron Wright
10. Robert du Preez
11.Makazole Mapimpi
12. Andre du Preez
13. Lukhanyo Am
14. Sbu du Preez
15. Curwin du Preez

16. Akker du Preez
17. Mzamo Majola
18. Ross du Preez
19. Tyler Paul
20. Jacques du Preez
21. Louis Schreuder
22. Marius du Preez
23. Lwazi du Preez
Nepotism alive and well at the sharks.
I dont know where you get that idea from

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:46 pm
by handyman
handyman wrote:Cannot wait for this. Sharks up for avatar bets?
Seems the Sharks supporters are a bunch of soft cocks.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:08 pm
by Beaver_Shark
Sharks by 20. 8)

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:15 pm
by Beaver_Shark
The biggest concern for me is our inability to slow the game down. The Bulls last week were getting quick and easy front-foot ball, especially in the first half. I look at this lineup and that's the one glaring weakness in this side. 3 seasons ago we were had Bismarck and Marcel Coetzee causing havoc at the breakdown..

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:23 pm
by Fangle
The Sharks team looks good, and by now they will have recovered from their travels. And as this is a home game they should win comfortably.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:29 pm
by Jensrsa
Fangle wrote:The Sharks team looks good, and by now they will have recovered from their travels. And as this is a home game they should win comfortably.
:lol:

Sharks at home - 2018

1W, 1L, 1D

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:22 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
houtkabouter wrote: Reiki lasers are being aligned with fairy crystals and you’re having an aural response.

Sniff some crushed garlic and lick an orange skin you’ll be okay.
What ? He must engage in Trumpian sex ?

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:46 pm
by saffer13
Beaver_Shark wrote:The biggest concern for me is our inability to slow the game down. The Bulls last week were getting quick and easy front-foot ball, especially in the first half. I look at this lineup and that's the one glaring weakness in this side. 3 seasons ago we were had Bismarck and Marcel Coetzee causing havoc at the breakdown..
Mitchell made mention of just how effective his loosies are...focusing on multiple fetchers.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:25 pm
by saffer13
Better backline. Now just to get rid of Rhule.

The pack is struggling. Weak at 2, 4, and 5 specifically.
Stormers

15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Craig Barry, 13 EW Viljoen, 12 Damian De Allende, 11 Raymond Rhule, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Chris van Zyl, 4 Jan de Klerk, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Ramone Samuels, 1 Steven Kitshoff

Substitutes: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 JC Janse van Rensburg, 18 Carlu Sadie, 19 Kobus van Dyk, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 SP Marais, 23 JJ Engelbrecht.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:27 pm
by Jensrsa
saffer13 wrote:Better backline. Now just to get rid of Rhule.

The pack is struggling. Weak at 2, 4, and 5 specifically.
Stormers

15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Craig Barry, 13 EW Viljoen, 12 Damian De Allende, 11 Raymond Rhule, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Chris van Zyl, 4 Jan de Klerk, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Ramone Samuels, 1 Steven Kitshoff

Substitutes: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 JC Janse van Rensburg, 18 Carlu Sadie, 19 Kobus van Dyk, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 SP Marais, 23 JJ Engelbrecht.
Samuels is working hard across the park but his core job he's not doing well

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:28 pm
by saffer13
Jensrsa wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Better backline. Now just to get rid of Rhule.

The pack is struggling. Weak at 2, 4, and 5 specifically.
Stormers

15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Craig Barry, 13 EW Viljoen, 12 Damian De Allende, 11 Raymond Rhule, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Chris van Zyl, 4 Jan de Klerk, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Ramone Samuels, 1 Steven Kitshoff

Substitutes: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 JC Janse van Rensburg, 18 Carlu Sadie, 19 Kobus van Dyk, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 SP Marais, 23 JJ Engelbrecht.
Samuels is working hard across the park but his core job he's not doing well
Agreed. LO's have gone from catastrophic to poor. I also think the fact that our scrum hasn't dominated as much has some to do with him as well...obviously with the locks too though.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:29 pm
by Jensrsa
S15: Ten SA players yet to catch fire

Nizaam Carr (Stormers)

Usually an excellent grafter, mobile linker and broadly intelligent eighth-man, Carr has lost some of his lustre in recent weeks – going especially quiet, I felt, in successive, clear-cut derby defeats to the Bulls and Lions. But it is also something I feared might happen as the 27-year-old spent much of his supposed off-season on a three-month deal in the tough, grinding English Premiership with Wasps. By all accounts, he played some blistering matches for them … but may now be paying a price for fatigue. The Test window break should come in handy for this five-cap Springbok, although the Stormers may need him to find some reserve strength well before that if they aren’t to be dead in the water by the late-June resumption. An alternative No 8 at Newlands, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, also hasn’t been banging the door down enough, given his athletic abilities.

Ruan Botha (Sharks)

Have the cares of captaincy been weighing down the lanky second-rower too much? Hardly helped by the fact that the initially quite highly-touted Sharks sport only two victories from eight matches, Botha will doubtless be the subject of some discussion in Durban around whether leadership is good for him or not. Boasting many of the qualities required for a top international lock, Botha still lies a decent fourth, competition-wide, for lineout claims. But he has been less active and assertive in other areas than might have been wished of him at the start of 2018 … and perhaps the same applies to partner Stephan Lewies?

Siya Kolisi (Stormers)

You have to admire Kolisi for the candid, critical way he judged his own performance (which was, indeed, poor for a Springbok open-side incumbent) after the thumping loss to the Lions in Johannesburg recently. Generally speaking, the normally dynamic No 6 hasn’t produced anything like the sort of displays he did for the Springboks in that capacity in some of his more rousing Tests last year. Apart from not being especially visible in turnover terms, he has also missed a few key tackles as the Stormers have grappled with unusual levels of defensive trauma. Important games loom for him (and several franchise-mates, to be fair) if he is to book his June berth for the Boks.

Andries Ferreira (Lions)

The bulky, specialist No 4 lock was a pillar of strength for the Lions for much of their rousing 2017 campaign … certainly an unsung hero a lot of the time at the heart of the engine room for his mauling and driving gusto and sound scrummaging. But he just seems to have dipped a notch this year, to the extent that at times he has been omitted – though “rotation” can come into play -- and Marvin Orie, boasting different physical proportions and more familiar with a No 5-type role, asked to fill the void at four.

Steven Kitshoff (Stormers)

The consistently industrious showings of veteran Springbok Tendai Mtawarira for the Sharks (put it this way, whenever he’s picked up a niggle he’s been sorely missed both in general play and at scrum-time) have served as a signal that the 98-cap Test stalwart isn’t ready to play second fiddle at loose-head yet to the six-years-younger Kitshoff. Not helping the Stormers man’s cause is that his own form has unusually faltered of late: he is normally much more destructive both at set-piece and with his barrelling charges. Right now, the “Beast” justifiably still heads the Bok pecking order at No 1, though Kitshoff has time (and talent) yet to change all that …

Lizo Gqoboka (Bulls)

Speaking of second fiddle … up at Loftus, broad-shouldered Pierre Schoeman, although Edinburgh-bound after Super Rugby 2018, has firmly nailed himself to the starting berth at loose-head prop for the Bulls. So that goes at least some way to explaining why game-time has been very sporadic for Gqoboka, highly rated by some experts, especially in the ball-carrying and tackling department. But when he has entered the fray off the bench, the former athlete and soccer player from Tabankulu hasn’t yet caught the eye in a major way as an impact factor.

Rohan Janse van Rensburg (Lions)

He has had some injury-related setbacks to contend with, which may explain why the chunky midfielder has struggled to really wow onlookers this year. But Janse van Rensburg has also suffered some expensive lapses in defensive concentration, and been guilty of questionable option-taking. So the otherwise explosive player has more often than not found himself as second choice to the leaner, more subtle Harold Vorster in the No 12 berth for the Lions. He must hope for better breaks in their remaining eight ordinary-season fixtures.

S’bu Nkosi (Sharks)

Still only 22, remember, Nkosi burst into the limelight last season with some muscular, incisive showings for the Sharks both in Super Rugby and later the Currie Cup. There were certain shades of a “mini-Lomu” in the way he put his robust physique to good use, opponents often finding it hard to bring the winger to the deck. But he has been less prominent in 2018 so far – not aided, it must be said, by the Sharks’ struggle to create consistent opportunities and space in wider berths.

Dillyn Leyds (Stormers)

Some experts, including former Stormers and Springbok captain Jean de Villiers, insist Leyds is better employed at fullback than wing, although he has often been required to assume one of the wider spots this season. Still, wherever in the back three he has been assigned, the versatile 2017-capped Springbok hasn’t yet shown off as many of the game-busting qualities – like those electric bursts from deep – that he demonstrated at Newlands last year and before.

SP Marais (Stormers)

The well-travelled fullback, now 29, is roughly at his first-class prime … yet just of late come under increasing scrutiny for some of his decision-making in under-pressure situations. While still an elusive, swerving runner on a good day, his clearance kicking, especially, has left quite a bit to be desired in successive out-of-town derby setbacks by the Stormers that have badly punctured their knockout-phase aspirations this year.
https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRu ... e-20180419

7 of the 10 are playing in this match :shock:

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:31 pm
by saffer13
1/3 of the Stormers team. :lol:

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:44 pm
by Jensrsa
saffer13 wrote:1/3 of the Stormers team. :lol:
?

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:01 pm
by saffer13
Jensrsa wrote:
saffer13 wrote:1/3 of the Stormers team. :lol:
?
A third of the Stormers team. 5 of 15

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:02 pm
by Jensrsa
saffer13 wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
saffer13 wrote:1/3 of the Stormers team. :lol:
?
A third of the Stormers team. 5 of 15
Ah!! Got it

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:05 pm
by saffer13
And then instead of "yet to fire" we can add a few Stormers to the "never gonna fire" column as well.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:35 pm
by handyman
Despite all of our boardroom troubles, our union on the brink of liquidation, a record number of injuries, most of our players out of form, a schoolboy running our backline, a has-been joke coaching our team and a stadium falling apart due to poor maintenance and age, we still have more wins than the Sharks?

How is this possible?

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:49 am
by Sards
handyman wrote:Despite all of our boardroom troubles, our union on the brink of liquidation, a record number of injuries, most of our players out of form, a schoolboy running our backline, a has-been joke coaching our team and a stadium falling apart due to poor maintenance and age, we still have more wins than the Sharks?

How is this possible?
Greatest team ever in Africa

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:51 am
by assfly
handyman wrote:Despite all of our boardroom troubles, our union on the brink of liquidation, a record number of injuries, most of our players out of form, a schoolboy running our backline, a has-been joke coaching our team and a stadium falling apart due to poor maintenance and age, we still have more wins than the Sharks?

How is this possible?
Yet we are ahead of you on the log. Interesting..

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:55 am
by handyman
assfly wrote:
handyman wrote:Despite all of our boardroom troubles, our union on the brink of liquidation, a record number of injuries, most of our players out of form, a schoolboy running our backline, a has-been joke coaching our team and a stadium falling apart due to poor maintenance and age, we still have more wins than the Sharks?

How is this possible?
Yet we are ahead of you on the log. Interesting..
Not really. With more losses than us, you have a better opportunity to collect losing bonus points.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:48 am
by Sandstorm
handyman wrote:
assfly wrote:
handyman wrote:Despite all of our boardroom troubles, our union on the brink of liquidation, a record number of injuries, most of our players out of form, a schoolboy running our backline, a has-been joke coaching our team and a stadium falling apart due to poor maintenance and age, we still have more wins than the Sharks?

How is this possible?
Yet we are ahead of you on the log. Interesting..
Not really. With more losses than us, you have a better opportunity to collect losing bonus points.
Boom! :lol:

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:49 pm
by assfly
We're still ahead of you on the log, whichever way you spin it.

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:13 pm
by Sards
assfly wrote:We're still ahead of you on the log, whichever way you spin it.
Last year it was the other way around I think...we couldnt score tries and bonus points nailed it for the Stormers

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:14 pm
by saffer13
Sards wrote:
assfly wrote:We're still ahead of you on the log, whichever way you spin it.
Last year it was the other way around I think...we couldnt score tries and bonus points nailed it for the Stormers
Are you scoring tries this season? What do your stats say?

Re: Match Thread: Sharks vs Stormers 21 April 2018

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:15 pm
by Sards
saffer13 wrote:
Sards wrote:
assfly wrote:We're still ahead of you on the log, whichever way you spin it.
Last year it was the other way around I think...we couldnt score tries and bonus points nailed it for the Stormers
Are you scoring tries this season? What do your stats say?

Talk to me about centres....something you know feck all about