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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 1:51 pm 
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Buenos Aires, Argentina

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Venue:
Estadio José Amalfitani (Estadio Vélez Sarsfield) - Capacity for 49,450 spectators

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Who:

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15. Emiliano Boffelli
14. Bautista Delguy
13. Matías Orlando
12. Jerónimo De la Fuente
11. Sebastián Cancelliere
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Gonzalo Bertranou
8. Javier Ortega Desio
7. Marcos Kremer
6. Tomás Lezana (captain)
5. Tomás Lavanini
4. Guido Petti
3. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro
2. Agustín Creevy
1. Santiago García Botta

Replacements:

16. Julián Montoya
17. Javier Díaz
18. Santiago Medrano
19. Matías Alemano
20. Leonardo Senatore
21. Martín Landajo
22. Bautista Ezcurra
23. Juan Cruz Mallia

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15. Warrick Gelant
14. Travis Ismaiel
13. Jesse Kriel
12. Handre Pollard (captain)
11. John-Ben Kotze
10. Manie Libbok
9. Ivan van Zyl
8. Marco van Staden
7. Thembelani Bholi
6. Roelof Smit
5. Rudolph Snyman
4. Jason Jenkins
3. Conraad van Vuuren
2. Adriaan Strauss
1. Trevor Nyakane

Replacements:

16. Jaco Visagie
17. Nqobisizwe Mxoli
18. Frans van Wyk
19. Hendre Stassen
20. Nicholas de Jager
21. Andre Warner
22. John Jackson
23. Divan Rossouw

History:

Played: 2

Jaguares: 1
Bulls: 1
Draw = 0

Last matches:

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Bulls 26 - 13 Jaguares (15 Apr 2017, Pretoria)

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Jaguares 29 - 11 Bulls (2 Jul 2016, Buenos Aires)

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Saturday 19 May

Kick Off :

SAT 18:40 (Buenos Aires, Argentina)
SAT 21:40 (UTC)
SUN 23:40 (Pretoria, South Africa)

Match Officials:

Referee - Federico Anselmi (Argentina)

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Assistant Referee 1 - Paul Williams (New Zealand)
Assistant Referee 2 - Pablo Deluca (Argentina)

TMO - Santiago Borsani (Argentina)

Buenos Aires weather forecast :

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:02 pm 
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This is no time to give up on the "cábala" that allowed us to win in New Zealand, so here are some pictures of ♫ Mi Buenos Aires Querido ♫

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:10 pm 
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Good run of victories by the Argies about to come to an end.


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Hopefully the Bulls win their second consecutive game on this one after beating the Sharks first this weekend. :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:01 pm 
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saffer13 wrote:
Hopefully the Bulls win their second consecutive game on this one after beating the Sharks first this weekend. :thumbup:


You're going to send your first team or you're going to do the same thing as the kittens of Johannesburg. :o


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:02 pm 
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Carfer wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Hopefully the Bulls win their second consecutive game on this one after beating the Sharks first this weekend. :thumbup:


You're going to send your first team or you're going to do the same thing as the kittens of Johannesburg. :o

My team is the Stormers ;)


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:06 pm 
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saffer13 wrote:
Carfer wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Hopefully the Bulls win their second consecutive game on this one after beating the Sharks first this weekend. :thumbup:


You're going to send your first team or you're going to do the same thing as the kittens of Johannesburg. :o

My team is the Stormers ;)


So you don't have a first team to play games away with at all. :twisted:


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:08 pm 
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Carfer wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Carfer wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Hopefully the Bulls win their second consecutive game on this one after beating the Sharks first this weekend. :thumbup:


You're going to send your first team or you're going to do the same thing as the kittens of Johannesburg. :o

My team is the Stormers ;)


So you don't have a first team to play games away with at all. :twisted:

Oh looks who's getting a little cocky these days :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:14 pm 
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saffer13 wrote:
Carfer wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Carfer wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Hopefully the Bulls win their second consecutive game on this one after beating the Sharks first this weekend. :thumbup:


You're going to send your first team or you're going to do the same thing as the kittens of Johannesburg. :o

My team is the Stormers ;)


So you don't have a first team to play games away with at all. :twisted:

Oh looks who's getting a little cocky these days :lol:


Just a "light" joke. :P
What I really can't understand is how you guys are unconquerable at home but you lower your performance so much when you board the plane. :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:16 pm 
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Me neither. It's terrible. Which is also why possibly scraping into the playoffs does nothing other than assure another first round exit :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:21 pm 
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Me neither. It's terrible. Which is also why possibly scraping into the playoffs does nothing other than assure another first round exit :lol:


:roll: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:27 pm 
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Looks like a nice city to celebrate a Bulls victory in ;) :smug: .


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:34 pm 
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Chilli wrote:
Looks like a nice city to celebrate a Bulls victory in ;) :smug: .


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:06 pm 
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Year Over for Joaquín Tuculet

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/05/07/year-over-for-joaquin-tuculet/

Americas Rugby News wrote:
The year is over for Joaquín Tuculet. Argentina’s leading fullback suffered a rupture of the anterior ligament of his knee in Friday’s Super Rugby match against the Chiefs in Rotorua, New Zealand.

The sale of the injury means the stand-in Jaguares captain will not play any further part in the 2018 Super Rugby campaign. The timing means he will miss out on the June Internationals and Rugby Championship as well as the November Internationals.

He will require six months recovery, a length of time which effectively ends his year altogether. Los Pumas Head Coach Daniel Hourcade will now need to look at alternatives to play against Wales and Scotland in June.

Mario Ledesma will be charged with addressing the same problem for Los Jaguares. Tuculet has started all but one match at fullback under Ledesma this year. The one exception was against the Melbourne Rebels with Emiliano Boffelli playing fullback rather than wing on that occasion.

Boffelli has otherwise played left wing under Ledesma. He has been joined by Sebastián Cancelliere, Bautista Delguy, and Ramiro Moyano as the wing options. Juan Cruz Mallía debuted against the Chiefs and is an option for fullback.

Yet to play is Matías Moroni. In his absence Matías Orlando has played every minute of every match for Los Jaguares this year. The timing of Tuculet’s injury means that playing Boffelli at 13 in order to rest Orlando sufficiently for June will not happen.

There are, nonetheless, other options at fullback for both Los Jaguares and Los Pumas. Super Rugby rookie Bautista Delguy is naturally a fullback. Alternatively the English-based Santiago Cordero could be used in the position. Hourcade started him at fullback against England in November 2016.

For Tuculet attention is now to turn to RWC 2019. The Jaguares captaincy is now set to go to either Tomás Lezana or Nicolás Sánchez. They have are Ledesma’s next in line below Pablo Matera and Joaquin Tuculet.

Matera is also injured at present and will miss out on playing in the June Internationals. In his absence Tomás Lezana and Javier Ortega Desio have started under Ledesma. Toulon’s Facundo Isa is unlikely to feature in June due to injury.


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:11 pm 
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Jags will be without fullback Joaquin Tuculet, who's out for 6 months after suffering a knee ligament injury vs Chiefs


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For Pumas I will pick Boffeli as FB and Imhoff as winger.


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:39 pm 
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julian wrote:
For Pumas I will pick Boffeli as FB and Imhoff as winger.

:thumbup:


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Puma's Campus, with a defined squad (30 jaguares)

The Head Coach of Los Pumas, Daniel Hourcade, confirmed the team of 30 players that will participate in a day of analysis, which will take place this Friday, May 11, in the town of Pilar. The Pumas will meet at the Sheraton Hotel and will have a day without physical activity, but will participate in various technical talks with the coaching staff.

"We're not going to do field work at this rally. The objective is to work on the theoretical part of the game system and to carry out different group and individual meetings with the players."This will be the last concentration before we give an expanded squad and get together to train the last week of May," said coach of Tucumann.

Among the list of those called up are Juan Pablo Zeiss, Javier Díaz and Santiago Medrano, who will be at the senior national team training camp for the first time.

The Pumas are preparing to begin their activity this season, when they will welcome the Welsh (9 and 16 June in San Juan and Santa Fe) and Scottish (23 June in Chaco) teams.


1- Matías Alemanno
2- Gonzalo Bertranou
3- Emiliano Boffelli
4- Sebastián Cancelliere
5- Agustín Creevy
6-Tomás Cubelli
7-Jerónimo De la Fuente
8- Bautista Delguy
9-Javier Díaz
10- Bautista Ezcurra
11- Santiago García Botta
12- Santiago González Iglesias
13- Marcos Kremer
14- Martín Landajo
15- Tomás Lavanini
16-Juan Manuel Leguizamón
17-Tomás Lezana
18- Juan Cruz Mallía
19- Pablo Matera
20-Santiago Medrano
21- Julián Montoya
22-Matías Moroni
23-Ramiro Moyano
24-Matías Orlando
25- Javier Ortega Desio
26- Guido Petti
27- Nicolás Sánchez
28-Leonardo Senatore
29-Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro
30-Juan Pablo Zeiss

http://www.espn.com.ar/rugby/nota/_/id/4286144/concentracion-puma-con-plantel-definido


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Important game this.


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fudge it. I have to go to Argentina next year.


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sorCrer wrote:
fudge it. I have to go to Argentina next year.

You will be gladly welcome.


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julian wrote:
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fudge it. I have to go to Argentina next year.

You will be gladly welcome.

I believe that you Manne can braai.


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Chilli wrote:
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fudge it. I have to go to Argentina next year.

You will be gladly welcome.

I believe that you Manne can braai.

Oh no there's an extended consensus that we prefer women, thanks.


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looking forward to this match to judge the Jaguares


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Always tough playing in ARG. Really hope the Bulls can keep up the good momentum.


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looking forward to this match to judge the Jaguares

Rather judge the Jaguares on their tour performances.
Judge the Bulls on their performance against the Jaguares.


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Always tough playing in ARG. Really hope the Bulls can keep up the good momentum.

Without Lood it will be a little more difficult.


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asado > braai


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After a tough match against the Sharks, and a long trip to Argentina, Jags have got to be favourites for this one. Fully expect them to batter the Bulls.


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Chilli wrote:
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Always tough playing in ARG. Really hope the Bulls can keep up the good momentum.

Without Lood it will be a little more difficult.


Has the list of players who will be travelling to Buenos Aires been announced?


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asado > braai

:lol:

Just try and keep the laser lights out of the stadium boet... ;)


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Carfer wrote:
Chilli wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Always tough playing in ARG. Really hope the Bulls can keep up the good momentum.

Without Lood it will be a little more difficult.


Has the list of players who will be travelling to Buenos Aires been announced?


http://thebulls.co.za/news/vodacom-bull ... -may-2018/

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The Vodacom Bulls 39-33 win against the Cell C Sharks in Round 13 came at a cost as Lizo Gqoboka and Lood de Jager suffered long term injuries.



Gqoboka injured his toe and scans have revealed that he has torn a tendon that requires surgery. He is expected to be out for 4-6 months.



De Jager left the field with a suspected pectoral injury and his scans confirmed that he tore a muscle in his chest wall. He will be on the sidelines for four months.



The rest of the squad seemed to be in good nick with all the players taking part in training ahead of the team’s departure for Argentina to face the Jaguares this weekend.


Jags by 50 :frown:


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handyman wrote:
Andalu wrote:
asado > braai

:lol:

Just try and keep the laser lights out of the stadium boet... ;)


I knew we forgot something when we left for the Australasian tour!

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My line-up for this game:

15. Bautista Delguy
14. Ramiro Moyano
13. Matías Orlando
12. Jerónimo De la Fuente
11. Emiliano Boffelli
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Gonzalo Bertranou
8. Javier Ortega Desio
7. Marcos Kremer
6. Tomás Lezana
5. Tomás Lavanini
4. Guido Petti
3. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro
2. Agustín Creevy
1. Santiago García Botta

Replacements:

16. Julián Montoya
17. Javier Díaz
18. Juan Pablo Zeiss / Santiago Medrano
19. Matías Alemano
20. Leonardo Senatore
21. Tomás Cubelli
22. Santiago González Iglesias / Bautista Ezcurra
23. Sebastián Cancelliere / Juan Cruz Mallia

Match Officials:

Referee: Federico Anselmi (Argentina) :uhoh:
Television match official: Paul Williams (New Zealand), Pablo Deluca (Argentina)
Television match official: Santiago Borsani (Argentina)


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Bulls touring squad

Backs: Warrick Gelant, Travis Ismaiel, Johnny Kotze, Divan Rossouw, Jesse Kriel, JT Jackson, Handre Pollard (c), Manie Libbok, Embrose Papier, Ivan van Zyl, André Warner.

Forwards: Themelani Bholi, Nick De Jager, Roelof Smit, Marco van Staden, Jason Jenkins, RG Snyman, Handre Stassen, Trevor Nyakane, Conraad van Vuuren, Matthys Basson, Mox Mxoli, Frans van Wyk, Jaco Visagie, Edgar Marutlulle, Adriaan Strauss.


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Chilli wrote:
Bulls touring squad

Backs: Warrick Gelant, Travis Ismaiel, Johnny Kotze, Divan Rossouw, Jesse Kriel, JT Jackson, Handre Pollard (c), Manie Libbok, Embrose Papier, Ivan van Zyl, André Warner.

Forwards: Themelani Bholi, Nick De Jager, Roelof Smit, Marco van Staden, Jason Jenkins, RG Snyman, Handre Stassen, Trevor Nyakane, Conraad van Vuuren, Matthys Basson, Mox Mxoli, Frans van Wyk, Jaco Visagie, Edgar Marutlulle, Adriaan Strauss.


¡ Muchas Gracias ! :thumbup:


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Chilli wrote:
Bulls touring squad

Backs: Warrick Gelant, Travis Ismaiel, Johnny Kotze, Divan Rossouw, Jesse Kriel, JT Jackson, Handre Pollard (c), Manie Libbok, Embrose Papier, Ivan van Zyl, André Warner.

Forwards: Themelani Bholi, Nick De Jager, Roelof Smit, Marco van Staden, Jason Jenkins, RG Snyman, Handre Stassen, Trevor Nyakane, Conraad van Vuuren, Matthys Basson, Mox Mxoli, Frans van Wyk, Jaco Visagie, Edgar Marutlulle, Adriaan Strauss.

Who are the LH props in that group? :lol:


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Bulls Team

15 Warrick Gelant 14 Travis Ismaiel 13 Jesse Kriel 12 Handré Pollard 10 Johnny Kotze 10 Manie Libbok 9 Ivan van Zyl 8 Marco van Staden 7 Thembelani Bholi 6 Roelof Smit 5 RG Snyman 4 Jason Jenkins 3 Conraad van Vuuren 2 Adriaan Strauss 1 Trevor Nyakane.

Bench: 16 Jaco Visagie 17 Nqobi Mxoli 18 Frans van Wyk 19 Hendré Stassen 20 Nic de Jager 21 André Warner 22 JT Jackson 23 Divan Rossouw.


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saffer13 wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Bulls touring squad

Backs: Warrick Gelant, Travis Ismaiel, Johnny Kotze, Divan Rossouw, Jesse Kriel, JT Jackson, Handre Pollard (c), Manie Libbok, Embrose Papier, Ivan van Zyl, André Warner.

Forwards: Themelani Bholi, Nick De Jager, Roelof Smit, Marco van Staden, Jason Jenkins, RG Snyman, Handre Stassen, Trevor Nyakane, Conraad van Vuuren, Matthys Basson, Mox Mxoli, Frans van Wyk, Jaco Visagie, Edgar Marutlulle, Adriaan Strauss.

Who are the LH props in that group? :lol:

Trevor 8)


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Chilli wrote:
Bulls Team

15 Warrick Gelant 14 Travis Ismaiel 13 Jesse Kriel 12 Handré Pollard 10 Johnny Kotze 10 Manie Libbok 9 Ivan van Zyl 8 Marco van Staden 7 Thembelani Bholi 6 Roelof Smit 5 RG Snyman 4 Jason Jenkins 3 Conraad van Vuuren 2 Adriaan Strauss 1 Trevor Nyakane.

Bench: 16 Jaco Visagie 17 Nqobi Mxoli 18 Frans van Wyk 19 Hendré Stassen 20 Nic de Jager 21 André Warner 22 JT Jackson 23 Divan Rossouw.

Libbok at 10 is interesting. He was uber kak at 15 in the JRWC last year. But I heard he has potential. Odendaal seems to injure his ribs quite often.


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Important returns for the Argentinean team

Moroni and Montero, the good news in Jaguares.
The center (Moroni) and the wing (Montero) trained with the Jaguares team in yesterday's practice at Club Atlético San Isidro. Both also make up the Argentina XV squad, which will play against Uruguay XV on Sunday.

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