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Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:40 pm
by TB63
Ok, in the market for a new set of wheels. .
Never buy new btw as depreciation starts as you drive off the forcourt..
Recently tested..
Jag, XE
Jag, XF
Quattraportai.

XE, nice car, but.. feels old for me..
XF, was the 5 ltr super, jesusus on a bike, that thing was quick...
Mazza. .. bloody nice, really bloody nice but, 17 mpg..!

Leaning towards a 2nd hand XF, 4Ltr or a 3 ltr diesel.. anyone have experience of one?...

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:47 pm
by frillage
Looks like badge is important to you, but the correct answer in that vehicle type is Passat bi turbo diesel or Skoda superb.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:53 pm
by TB63
frillage wrote:Looks like badge is important to you, but the correct answer in that vehicle type is Passat bi turbo diesel or Skoda superb.
:lol: :lol: get fudged!..

Badge, yes, I like a comfy beast, seeing as my current daily is a 1991 mx5...

Don't care what people think. .

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:07 pm
by frillage
TB63 wrote:
frillage wrote:Looks like badge is important to you, but the correct answer in that vehicle type is Passat bi turbo diesel or Skoda superb.
:lol: :lol: get fudged!..

Badge, yes, I like a comfy beast, seeing as my current daily is a 1991 mx5...

Don't care what people think. .
Ah so midlife crisis it is! 😉

The Passat is a stealth machine, not lightning but about 6 seconds 0-60. Lexus GS F also worth a look as is the Alpha (then decid to never buy an Alpha)

(I am really tempted by the Kia Stinger though! :blush: )

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:11 pm
by Leinsterman
Can't go wrong with a highly specced Fiesta or a Qashqai

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:13 pm
by J Man
Get a 1.5L Toyota Corolla, 8 years old with about 80,000km on the clock.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:13 pm
by TB63
Alpha, now there's a thought. .

Needs to be a big engine one though. .

I've already got a little engine screamer, like the v8s, for another car..

Just put a bid on a TVR for the fun..

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:14 pm
by TB63
Ffs, I'm not globby!

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:17 pm
by Leinsterman
TB63 wrote:Ffs, I'm not globby!
:lol:

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:23 pm
by happyhooker
TB63 wrote:Ffs, I'm not globby!
Well you say that.......

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:23 pm
by sorCrer
TB63 wrote:Ok, in the market for a new set of wheels. .
Never buy new btw as depreciation starts as you drive off the forcourt..
Recently tested..
Jag, XE
Jag, XF
Quattraportai.

XE, nice car, but.. feels old for me..
XF, was the 5 ltr super, jesusus on a bike, that thing was quick...
Mazza. .. bloody nice, really bloody nice but, 17 mpg..!

Leaning towards a 2nd hand XF, 4Ltr or a 3 ltr diesel.. anyone have experience of one?...
I always buy new and pay full period and then drive happily free for many years after.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:34 pm
by TB63
happyhooker wrote:
TB63 wrote:Ffs, I'm not globby!
Well you say that.......

Fatter deffo, bullshit not..

How's you short arse anyway? ..

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:40 pm
by goose81
Buy the Maserati, those jags just look cheap may aswell be driving a mondeo. The smile you will have will outweigh any petrol costs

Although if you are concerned about petrol can you actually afford the Maserati, you are aware of the costs if it has issues?

The basic principal being if you can't afford a new one you can't afford to fix one.

A mate bought a newish Range Rover in the UK for like 17k, was then shocked when his gearbox went and the replacement was about 5k :lol:

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:49 pm
by TB63
goose81 wrote:Buy the Maserati, those jags just look cheap may aswell be driving a mondeo. The smile you will have will outweigh any petrol costs

Although if you are concerned about petrol can you actually afford the Maserati, you are aware of the costs if it has issues?

The basic principal being if you can't afford a new one you can't afford to fix one.

A mate bought a newish Range Rover in the UK for like 17k, was then shocked when his gearbox went and the replacement was about 5k :lol:
I do about 40k a year, on my current mx5 at 38mpg, it ramps up, clk is at 28mpg, jag 3 diesel should give me 45mpg..

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:52 pm
by TB63
I'm sat here talking myself out of what I want.. FML. ..

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:24 am
by goose81
TB63 wrote:
goose81 wrote:Buy the Maserati, those jags just look cheap may aswell be driving a mondeo. The smile you will have will outweigh any petrol costs

Although if you are concerned about petrol can you actually afford the Maserati, you are aware of the costs if it has issues?

The basic principal being if you can't afford a new one you can't afford to fix one.

A mate bought a newish Range Rover in the UK for like 17k, was then shocked when his gearbox went and the replacement was about 5k :lol:
I do about 40k a year, on my current mx5 at 38mpg, it ramps up, clk is at 28mpg, jag 3 diesel should give me 45mpg..
Then why are you even looking at the Maserati?

Get a newish c class coupe they look beast like an s class coupe, that would be my choice.

Alternatively a 6 series or s class.

I can relate a small bit, my new Ducati has me filling up every couple of days and it says it's giving me 38mpg the last one must have been doing 50+ cause the wallet is feeling it

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:43 am
by ovalball
Friend of mine just bought a new Audi S5 - very impressive inside and out and goes like a bat out of hell - and they hold their value reasonably well.

You won't do 40K a year in an Alpha - at least, not in the same one !!!!! And the depreciation on them is horrific.

For that sort of mileage - the Merc, previously suggested, is probably a good shout - one of the best rides around.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:45 am
by J Man
Christ this is a dick waving contest.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:43 am
by blindcider
Buy a Vauxhall Meriva, you can have mine dirt cheap. The farking nasty little shitbox

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:49 am
by Zakar
1990 Porshe 944?

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:50 am
by bimboman
TB63 wrote:
goose81 wrote:Buy the Maserati, those jags just look cheap may aswell be driving a mondeo. The smile you will have will outweigh any petrol costs

Although if you are concerned about petrol can you actually afford the Maserati, you are aware of the costs if it has issues?

The basic principal being if you can't afford a new one you can't afford to fix one.

A mate bought a newish Range Rover in the UK for like 17k, was then shocked when his gearbox went and the replacement was about 5k :lol:
I do about 40k a year, on my current mx5 at 38mpg, it ramps up, clk is at 28mpg, jag 3 diesel should give me 45mpg..

We have a salesman who's knocked out 40 plus from the Jag F pace.


The XF is an absolute bargain purchase.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:51 am
by bimboman
blindcider wrote:Buy a Vauxhall Meriva, you can have mine dirt cheap. The farking nasty little shitbox

You'll make yeeb cry.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:52 am
by Sandstorm
BMW 640D Grand Coupe.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:54 am
by blindcider
bimboman wrote:
blindcider wrote:Buy a Vauxhall Meriva, you can have mine dirt cheap. The farking nasty little shitbox

You'll make yeeb cry.
I was talking about the car with that last sentence, not Yeeb :P

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:06 am
by sorCrer
Sandstorm wrote:BMW 640D Grand Coupe.
Nice solid wankers car.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:33 am
by DragsterDriver
Not a diesel.

Have a £15k budget, but a £10k luxury barge, put the £5k aside for the inevitable repairs. Softens the blow.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:52 am
by globus
J Man wrote:Christ this is a dick waving contest.
Not from me. I've given up that now. The 911 has gone. But am thinking about a Beemer or a Merc to go to Wobbledom in.

The thing is, I can borrow my mate's car. It's an AMG. He's quite happy to borrow one of mine, just for a change!

I really do not see the point in having some ridiculously powerful vehicle any more.

It was fun years ago but the roads are so congested that I'm quite happy with a Nissan auto.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:57 am
by Leinsterman
Do you reckon you could drive the AMG into a wall really fast?

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:04 am
by globus
J Man wrote:Get a 1.5L Toyota Corolla, 8 years old with about 80,000km on the clock.
They are quite decent. We hired one in Jamaica. Sadly the air con failed and we sweated profusely!

We went to Trenchtown to visit Bob Marley's birthplace. But we had two police cars in front and one behind.

This was on the mp3.

Natural Mystic

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:04 am
by globus
Leinsterman wrote:Do you reckon you could drive the AMG into a wall really fast?
Walls are not too bad. The trees are the ones to miss.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:07 am
by Leinsterman
globus wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Do you reckon you could drive the AMG into a wall really fast?
Walls are not too bad. The trees are the ones to miss.
I'm not picky.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:11 am
by Edinburgh01
sorCrer wrote:I always buy new and pay full period and then drive happily free for many years after.
Likewise, I have bought 3 vehicles in the last 21 years, and used to put 20k plus a year on (before I retired).

I like the idea of someone else taking the hit on depreciation, but then you risk the previous owner having abused it. I have one neighbour and one friend who always have trouble with their vehicles, and having been driven by them I can see why. Seeing things like that makes me prefer to stick to cars whose history I know.

We are looking at funding cars for our kids just now. We are trying to persuade an 18 year old and a 20 year old that at the budget we have given them they are better off getting a delivery miles 18 reg Hyundai or Kia or some such with a long warranty than a used brand with more street cred. Will they listen?

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:13 am
by globus
Leinsterman wrote:
globus wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Do you reckon you could drive the AMG into a wall really fast?
Walls are not too bad. The trees are the ones to miss.
I'm not picky.
We went backwards into one on a night rally. In a mini. Thankfully I'd fitted Recaros with steel backs.

My mate, the driver, broke his ankle. I got away scot free. However, I was able to reach behind and touch the tree trunk.

We've gone down mountainsides in Wales. Roll over cages are very important!

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:15 am
by globus
Edinburgh01 wrote:
sorCrer wrote:I always buy new and pay full period and then drive happily free for many years after.
Likewise, I have bought 3 vehicles in the last 21 years, and used to put 20k plus a year on (before I retired).

I like the idea of someone else taking the hit on depreciation, but then you risk the previous owner having abused it. I have one neighbour and one friend who always have trouble with their vehicles, and having been driven by them I can see why. Seeing things like that makes me prefer to stick to cars whose history I know.

We are looking at funding cars for our kids just now. We are trying to persuade an 18 year old and a 20 year old that at the budget we have given them they are better off getting a delivery miles 18 reg Hyundai or Kia or some such with a long warranty than a used brand with more street cred. Will they listen?
We are doing the same Auld Reekie. Bought a Skoda and a Ford S Max for them (since the arrival of twins.)

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:16 am
by Plato'sCave
TB63 wrote:Ok, in the market for a new set of wheels. .
Never buy new btw as depreciation starts as you drive off the forcourt..
Recently tested..
Jag, XE
Jag, XF
Quattraportai.

XE, nice car, but.. feels old for me..
XF, was the 5 ltr super, jesusus on a bike, that thing was quick...
Mazza. .. bloody nice, really bloody nice but, 17 mpg..!

Leaning towards a 2nd hand XF, 4Ltr or a 3 ltr diesel.. anyone have experience of one?...
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Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:30 am
by Joost
frillage wrote:Looks like badge is important to you, but the correct answer in that vehicle type is Passat bi turbo diesel or Skoda superb.
Had a top of the range Superb as a hire car for a few weeks earlier in the year; can’t say a bad word about it, had all the bells and whistles you could want, very pleasant to drive and reckon it’d make a very practical family car (the boot would be ideal for a serial killer!). Bit of a tank in length though, especially if you’re in and around town and parking is tight.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:39 am
by sorCrer
Edinburgh01 wrote:
sorCrer wrote:I always buy new and pay full period and then drive happily free for many years after.
Likewise, I have bought 3 vehicles in the last 21 years, and used to put 20k plus a year on (before I retired).

I like the idea of someone else taking the hit on depreciation, but then you risk the previous owner having abused it. I have one neighbour and one friend who always have trouble with their vehicles, and having been driven by them I can see why. Seeing things like that makes me prefer to stick to cars whose history I know.

We are looking at funding cars for our kids just now. We are trying to persuade an 18 year old and a 20 year old that at the budget we have given them they are better off getting a delivery miles 18 reg Hyundai or Kia or some such with a long warranty than a used brand with more street cred. Will they listen?

Yep. You buy it and drive it until it's done. At least 10+ years. Have a little Corsa which I bought my partner in 2004. It's done 250k and I only got her a new one this year.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:42 am
by Sandstorm
sorCrer wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:BMW 640D Grand Coupe.
Nice solid wankers car.
He's Welsh :thumbup:

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:58 am
by backrow
blindcider wrote:
bimboman wrote:
blindcider wrote:Buy a Vauxhall Meriva, you can have mine dirt cheap. The farking nasty little shitbox

You'll make yeeb cry.
I was talking about the car with that last sentence, not Yeeb :P
only bike twats would buy a Meriva in the first place, I agree they are not nice - (petrol only) Zafira is where its at for "MPV usefulness whilst looking like a box and having a Griffon as a badge" competitions

Gm petrol engines buy & large were lovely and reliable, the exact opposite of their diesels I found.

sadly Vauxhall is now dead in the ground image wise and nobody, even me, would now consider getting one because even if they did a good car (and the new astra is lovely), the depreication would kill it financially.

Re: Choosing a new car..?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:15 am
by Duff Paddy
J Man wrote:Christ this is a dick waving contest.
Porsche man eh