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Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:33 pm
by backrow
easy to get around, just wear paramedic uniform like Mike Brown here

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Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:36 pm
by frillage
Seneca of the Night wrote:From world Cup:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -rz72mm338

I always knew there was something off about that flag.
:lol: imperialistic?! Not a good idea to carry it because it will be a beacon for getting the shit kicked out of them.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:41 pm
by Plato'sCave
Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:42 pm
by assfly
Good.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:44 pm
by englishchief
About time.

There's nothing that triggers a panic attack like the sight of a red cross on a white background in an exact 2:3 height to width ratio.

It's only used by racists these days. There's much easier ways to identify what country someone is from, such as the colour of their skin.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:51 pm
by frillage
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMDHAY_hbio

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:56 pm
by genghis khan
I saw that in The Times earlier, it hasn't been banned but they recommend not taking it. Which is fair enough. I'll be taking my Mercia flag instead :thumbup:

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:57 pm
by Plato'sCave
frillage wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMDHAY_hbio
This gentleman doesn’t need a flag to show the world where he is from, everyone knows where he’s from.
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Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:01 pm
by frillage
Plato'sCave wrote:
frillage wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMDHAY_hbio
This gentleman doesn’t need a flag to show the world where he is from, everyone knows where he’s from.
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Terrible form, wont get good line and length with that action.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:04 pm
by Plato'sCave
frillage wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
frillage wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMDHAY_hbio
This gentleman doesn’t need a flag to show the world where he is from, everyone knows where he’s from.
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Terrible form, wont get good line and length with that action.
Indeed, but he has had 45 pints and it’s only lunchtime

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:14 pm
by Nieghorn
:lol: ... Mercia.

Surely an "Imperialistic" flag would be the Union Jack, not the St George cross?

I've never seen a St George flag on anything to do with Imperial documents, photos of events, etc. over on this side of the pond. That'd surely have triggered our uppity Scots and Orange Irish immigrants.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:17 pm
by englishchief
Nieghorn wrote::lol: ... Mercia.

Surely an "Imperialistic" flag would be the Union Jack, not the St George cross?

I've never seen a St George flag on anything to do with Imperial documents, photos of events, etc. over on this side of the pond. That'd surely have triggered our uppity Scots and Orange Irish immigrants.
I think regional flags are actually having a resurgence in the UK. Living in Cornwall I see them fairly regularly but you also see a few in Devon, and I've seen a few in Wiltshire/Glous/Ox

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:23 pm
by shanky
Nieghorn wrote::lol: ... Mercia.

Surely an "Imperialistic" flag would be the Union Jack, not the St George cross?

I've never seen a St George flag on anything to do with Imperial documents, photos of events, etc. over on this side of the pond. That'd surely have triggered our uppity Scots and Orange Irish immigrants.
Of course not. That’s because it hasn’t been a real flag since the middle ages

It’s a product of modern boganism in every much the same way that the Southern Cross tattoo is, down here.

Nasty, angry, little people who would’ve never stood up for the flag when it mattered anyway.

LOLwankers

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:27 pm
by Nieghorn
Marketing to people's (often more muddied than they know / admit) cultural heritage.

Acadian flags pop up here, though I thought most of them were exiled in 1755 ... it's essentially a modern French flag with a five-point gold star in the upper part of the blue band. Adopted in the 1880s, apparently.

You will see random St Andrew, Irish harp, Welsh dragon flags about in Canada as well.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:31 pm
by shanky
Nieghorn wrote:Marketing to people's (often more muddied than they know / admit) cultural heritage.

Acadian flags pop up here, though I thought most of them were exiled in 1755 ... it's essentially a modern French flag with a five-point gold star in the upper part of the blue band. Adopted in the 1880s, apparently.

You will see random St Andrew, Irish harp, Welsh dragon flags about in Canada as well.
And. Not to mention the rogue French state to the right.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:32 pm
by Andalu
would've been more tactful just to say if you take it, you are much more likely to be curb stomped by a mob of russkis

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:36 pm
by frillage
Andalu wrote:would've been more tactful just to say if you take it, you are much more likely to be curb stomped by a mob of russkis
Reverse psychology init, tell them cant "it's imperialistic", they all go against it, take one and get curb stomped. everyone is a winner.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:38 pm
by Brazil
Nieghorn wrote:Marketing to people's (often more muddied than they know / admit) cultural heritage.

Acadian flags pop up here, though I thought most of them were exiled in 1755 ... it's essentially a modern French flag with a five-point gold star in the upper part of the blue band. Adopted in the 1880s, apparently.

You will see random St Andrew, Irish harp, Welsh dragon flags about in Canada as well.
And the culinary world is grateful for it. Presumably the ones waving the flags are people with a tenuous connection to the Acadians, a bit like the Druids we have running round in the UK.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:48 pm
by message #2527204
englishchief wrote:
Nieghorn wrote::lol: ... Mercia.

Surely an "Imperialistic" flag would be the Union Jack, not the St George cross?

I've never seen a St George flag on anything to do with Imperial documents, photos of events, etc. over on this side of the pond. That'd surely have triggered our uppity Scots and Orange Irish immigrants.
I think regional flags are actually having a resurgence in the UK. Living in Cornwall I see them fairly regularly but you also see a few in Devon, and I've seen a few in Wiltshire/Glous/Ox
Racist imperialists those Cornish

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:54 pm
by Mahoney
Brazil wrote:And the culinary world is grateful for it. Presumably the ones waving the flags are people with a tenuous connection to the Acadians, a bit like the Druids we have running round in the UK.
Have you read "Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles: Their Nature and Legacy"? It's a pretty reasonable historical survey of pre-Christian British religion, and consequently mostly consists of "we don't know", "we haven't got a clue" and "your guess is as good as mine".

Interestingly the author is (or was) himself a pagan, but is quite clear that neo-paganism is an entirely new religion with essentially no link to pre-Christian beliefs.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:57 pm
by Frodder
Plato'sCave wrote:
frillage wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMDHAY_hbio
This gentleman doesn’t need a flag to show the world where he is from, everyone knows where he’s from.
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A great English export but like others have been surpassed by Eastern Europe

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:00 pm
by etherman
frillage wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
frillage wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMDHAY_hbio
This gentleman doesn’t need a flag to show the world where he is from, everyone knows where he’s from.
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Terrible form, wont get good line and length with that action.
Yeah falling away to leg side. Shite, unless he qualifies for Ireland, in which case he's a work in progress.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:10 pm
by MrDominator
It really is a ghastly flag.

It looks just about OK on a country church spire on a beautiful summer's day - but in all other circumstances, it looks naff and terrible. There's something horribly basic and brutalist about it. In the shit flag competition, it's up there with the Irish Tricolour and the Russian flag.

The Union Jack, on the other hand, makes a man's heart swoon.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:13 pm
by MrDominator
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
We're England and Wales
We're England and Waaaaales
fudge off Russia
We're England and Wales

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:15 pm
by message #2527204
MrDominator wrote:It really is a ghastly flag.

It looks just about OK on a country church spire on a beautiful summer's day - but in all other circumstances, it looks naff and terrible. There's something horribly basic and brutalist about it. In the shit flag competition, it's up there with the Irish Tricolour and the Russian flag.

The Union Jack, on the other hand, makes a man's heart swoon.
It's a fairly shit flag, but then again it shows support for what has traditionally been a fairly shit team.
Think it's a bit off asking people not to support their team because they might be hospitalised.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:18 pm
by frillage
message #2527204 wrote:
MrDominator wrote:It really is a ghastly flag.

It looks just about OK on a country church spire on a beautiful summer's day - but in all other circumstances, it looks naff and terrible. There's something horribly basic and brutalist about it. In the shit flag competition, it's up there with the Irish Tricolour and the Russian flag.

The Union Jack, on the other hand, makes a man's heart swoon.
It's a fairly shit flag, but then again it shows support for what has traditionally been a fairly shit team.
Think it's a bit off asking people not to support their team because they might be hospitalised.
Yes, not carrying a flag is not supporting their team! :roll:

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:20 pm
by Brazil
Mahoney wrote:
Brazil wrote:And the culinary world is grateful for it. Presumably the ones waving the flags are people with a tenuous connection to the Acadians, a bit like the Druids we have running round in the UK.
Have you read "Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles: Their Nature and Legacy"? It's a pretty reasonable historical survey of pre-Christian British religion, and consequently mostly consists of "we don't know", "we haven't got a clue" and "your guess is as good as mine".

Interestingly the author is (or was) himself a pagan, but is quite clear that neo-paganism is an entirely new religion with essentially no link to pre-Christian beliefs.
I haven't, but I'll have a look for it. It sounds similar to a book about the pre-roman archaeology of London I once read where the author essentialy resorted to making it up fairly obviously.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:20 pm
by Openside
Seneca of the Night wrote:From world Cup:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -rz72mm338

I always knew there was something off about that flag.
Blimey that has got to be a first Police going with our travelling support to PROTECT them :shock: :shock:
I reckon it will kick off big styly and to a degree 'state encouraged' The small-dicked Russians will be wanting to show the world that Russians really have no redeeming features at all.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:22 pm
by message #2527204
frillage wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
MrDominator wrote:It really is a ghastly flag.

It looks just about OK on a country church spire on a beautiful summer's day - but in all other circumstances, it looks naff and terrible. There's something horribly basic and brutalist about it. In the shit flag competition, it's up there with the Irish Tricolour and the Russian flag.

The Union Jack, on the other hand, makes a man's heart swoon.
It's a fairly shit flag, but then again it shows support for what has traditionally been a fairly shit team.
Think it's a bit off asking people not to support their team because they might be hospitalised.
Yes, not carrying a flag is not supporting their team! :roll:
Why else would you carry a flag at a football tournament?

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:23 pm
by globus
It is iconic. The Scots got their hands on it and the saltire arrived.

I'm wondering if we should add a leek and maybe a shamrock.

I'll try and get Damion Hirst on the case.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:25 pm
by frillage
message #2527204 wrote:
frillage wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
MrDominator wrote:It really is a ghastly flag.

It looks just about OK on a country church spire on a beautiful summer's day - but in all other circumstances, it looks naff and terrible. There's something horribly basic and brutalist about it. In the shit flag competition, it's up there with the Irish Tricolour and the Russian flag.

The Union Jack, on the other hand, makes a man's heart swoon.
It's a fairly shit flag, but then again it shows support for what has traditionally been a fairly shit team.
Think it's a bit off asking people not to support their team because they might be hospitalised.
Yes, not carrying a flag is not supporting their team! :roll:
Why else would you carry a flag at a football tournament?
Not sure how else to word it to make it simple for you, let’s try a question
“If they are not carrying a flag are they not supporting the team?”

I think the English football fans are the last ones that can question threats of violence.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:30 pm
by FullbackAce
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

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Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:31 pm
by message #2527204
frillage wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
frillage wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
MrDominator wrote:It really is a ghastly flag.

It looks just about OK on a country church spire on a beautiful summer's day - but in all other circumstances, it looks naff and terrible. There's something horribly basic and brutalist about it. In the shit flag competition, it's up there with the Irish Tricolour and the Russian flag.

The Union Jack, on the other hand, makes a man's heart swoon.
It's a fairly shit flag, but then again it shows support for what has traditionally been a fairly shit team.
Think it's a bit off asking people not to support their team because they might be hospitalised.
Yes, not carrying a flag is not supporting their team! :roll:
Why else would you carry a flag at a football tournament?
Not sure how else to word it to make it simple for you, let’s try a question
“If they are not carrying a flag are they not supporting the team?”

I think the English football fans are the last ones that can question threats of violence.
I think you're probably correct. But, to make it simple for you, what the fudge has that got to do with carrying a flag?

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:36 pm
by Openside
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Openside wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:From world Cup:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -rz72mm338

I always knew there was something off about that flag.
Blimey that has got to be a first Police going with our travelling support to PROTECT them :shock: :shock:
I reckon it will kick off big styly and to a degree 'state encouraged' The small-dicked Russians will be wanting to show the world that Russians really have no redeeming features at all.
Sounds like you want a piece of it guvnor. Are you making the push to Moscow with our brave Tommys?

:lol: :lol:

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:43 pm
by Mahoney
Brazil wrote:
Mahoney wrote:
Brazil wrote:And the culinary world is grateful for it. Presumably the ones waving the flags are people with a tenuous connection to the Acadians, a bit like the Druids we have running round in the UK.
Have you read "Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles: Their Nature and Legacy"? It's a pretty reasonable historical survey of pre-Christian British religion, and consequently mostly consists of "we don't know", "we haven't got a clue" and "your guess is as good as mine".

Interestingly the author is (or was) himself a pagan, but is quite clear that neo-paganism is an entirely new religion with essentially no link to pre-Christian beliefs.
I haven't, but I'll have a look for it. It sounds similar to a book about the pre-roman archaeology of London I once read where the author essentialy resorted to making it up fairly obviously.
Oh, he doesn't make stuff up - he just cheerfully acknowledges there's bugger all evidence for pretty much anything, and that therefore anyone claiming to be following an ancient British religion is making it up.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:24 pm
by globus
Now this is a flag.

Iris pseudacorus

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:25 pm
by Anonymous 1
Nieghorn wrote::lol: ... Mercia.

Surely an "Imperialistic" flag would be the Union Jack, not the St George cross?

I've never seen a St George flag on anything to do with Imperial documents, photos of events, etc. over on this side of the pond. That'd surely have triggered our uppity Scots and Orange Irish immigrants.
Amazing choice of word to use when they know its got SFA to do with imperialism.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:33 pm
by Plato'sCave
FullbackAce wrote:You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

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It might need a little tweaking

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Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:38 pm
by englishchief
You still find a few old school flags in South Africa if you look hard. Weird thing, flags.

Best flag is probably the Albanian one.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:45 pm
by globus
It's the Union flag. Not the Jack. That is flown when a navy vessel is at anchor, debatable. Usually a rather large one like an aircraft carrier!

I can fly a blue ensign. Defaced. I'll not bore you with the details.

I do semaphore too. That's silly now. Waving flags, which was the responsibiity of the Admiral's fleet ship then.

I have a wonderful book on this. You can put up flags to ask the medical men what to do.

Most of it is very gory compared to today. I have detail, if you are interested.

Lots of it are about rather nasty amputations.

Cannon shooters were not in the best place on earth.

When fired, they came back with recoil. Some sailors did not get out of the way.

Rather like having Lomu hit you at speed.