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Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:45 pm
by globus
It's the Union flag. Not the Jack. That is flown when a navy vessel is at anchor, debatable. Usually a rather large one like an aircraft carrier!

I can fly a blue ensign. Defaced. I'll not bore you with the details.

I do semaphore too. That's silly now. Waving flags, which was the responsibiity of the Admiral's fleet ship then.

I have a wonderful book on this. You can put up flags to ask the medical men what to do.

Most of it is very gory compared to today. I have detail, if you are interested.

Lots of it are about rather nasty amputations.

Cannon shooters were not in the best place on earth.

When fired, they came back with recoil. Some sailors did not get out of the way.

Rather like having Lomu hit you at speed.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:48 pm
by etherman
globus wrote:It is iconic. The Scots got their hands on it and the saltire arrived.

I'm wondering if we should add a leek and maybe a shamrock.

I'll try and get Damion Hirst on the case.
It already has St Patricks flag and Wales, as we all know, isn't a country.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:49 pm
by etherman
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

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It might need a little tweaking

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:lol:

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:49 pm
by Wendigo7
Seneca of the Night wrote:From world Cup:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -rz72mm338

I always knew there was something off about that flag.
What a stupid f**king thing to do.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:52 pm
by Mahoney
The Flag Institute wrote:It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.
https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:53 pm
by globus
etherman wrote:
globus wrote:It is iconic. The Scots got their hands on it and the saltire arrived.

I'm wondering if we should add a leek and maybe a shamrock.

I'll try and get Damion Hirst on the case.
It already has St Patricks flag and Wales, as we all know, isn't a country.
I might have to disappear into my bunkhole now. The Swarm are bad enough. The Welsh are going to have a right go at that one.

I'm under the blanket with my fingers in my ears.

My very best scrummie was Welsh and we still speak to each other!

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:03 pm
by globus
Mahoney wrote:
The Flag Institute wrote:It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.
https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/
Cheers. Interesting. My great uncle, who was a Sea Lord, was irritated to thingummy about this.

I've just inherited his annoyance.

I got lectures. When we buried him he went down in a coffin with the Union Flag.

He was the inspiration for me to go sailing. He was the head of Trinity House at one time.

And you want to see what he brought back from afar.

His son has all of it. But assures me that he shall leave some bits to me. Including a gong the size of the one on the Rank films.

Lord knows where I'm going to put it.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:10 pm
by Rowdy
I'm hoping Afua Hirsch will write an interesting article on this.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:13 pm
by Enzedder
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
Don't take a chair to a baseball bat fight

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:17 pm
by frillage
Enzedder wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
Don't take a chair to a baseball bat fight
They pull a chair, you pull a baseball bat
they send one of yous in the hospital, you send theirs to the gulag, that's the Moscow way.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:42 pm
by iarmhiman
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

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It might need a little tweaking

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:06 pm
by SamShark
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:lol:

It would be better if the chair thrower was fat, bald and wearing shorts (possibly with a Russian skinhead striding towards him carrying a club)

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:12 pm
by alliswell
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

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It might need a little tweaking

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:lol: :thumbup:

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 pm
by Anonymous 1
globus wrote:
Mahoney wrote:
The Flag Institute wrote:It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.
https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/
Cheers. Interesting. My great uncle, who was a Sea Lord, was irritated to thingummy about this.
.
Just a Sea Lord.Would have expected First Sea Lord

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:02 pm
by Taranaki Snapper
frillage wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
Don't take a chair to a baseball bat fight
They pull a chair, you pull a baseball bat
they send one of yous in the hospital, you send theirs to the gulag, that's the Moscow way.
Image

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:33 pm
by frillage
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Taranaki Snapper wrote:
frillage wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.
Don't take a chair to a baseball bat fight
They pull a chair, you pull a baseball bat
they send one of yous in the hospital, you send theirs to the gulag, that's the Moscow way.
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fudge the Russians are brutal, at least give them alcohol first!

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:47 pm
by eldanielfire
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

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It might need a little tweaking

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:43 pm
by globus
Anonymous. wrote:
globus wrote:
Mahoney wrote:
The Flag Institute wrote:It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.
https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/
Cheers. Interesting. My great uncle, who was a Sea Lord, was irritated to thingummy about this.
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Just a Sea Lord.Would have expected First Sea Lord
He would not have been interested. It's a political appointment.

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:58 pm
by Red Chopper
Rowdy wrote:I'm hoping Afua Hirsch will write an interesting article on this.
The term 'Union Jack' entered common parlance post 1707 after the largesse arising from the merciless colonial exploitation of people of colour by the ruling white elite began to be widely distributed, and the resulting benefits felt, amongst those same self-serving white exploiters. To be both white British and an active participant in Empire was to have won the lottery of life, hence the coining of the phrase; ''Union? Yeh, I'm alright, Jack''. ''Union Jack'' is literally a spoken contraction of this phrase, ergo the flag is an indefensible racist icon.
Like this? ;)

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:46 pm
by JM2K6
etherman wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

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It might need a little tweaking

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:lol:
That's awesome :lol:

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:07 pm
by Rowdy
Red Chopper wrote:
Rowdy wrote:I'm hoping Afua Hirsch will write an interesting article on this.
The term 'Union Jack' entered common parlance post 1707 after the largesse arising from the merciless colonial exploitation of people of colour by the ruling white elite began to be widely distributed, and the resulting benefits felt, amongst those same self-serving white exploiters. To be both white British and an active participant in Empire was to have won the lottery of life, hence the coining of the phrase; ''Union? Yeh, I'm alright, Jack''. ''Union Jack'' is literally a spoken contraction of this phrase, ergo the flag is an indefensible racist icon.
Like this? ;)
:thumbup: She never disappoints!

Re: UK police: St George flag imperialistic, banned

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:24 pm
by FullbackAce
JM2K6 wrote:
etherman wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

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It might need a little tweaking

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:lol:
That's awesome :lol:
What's this a reference to ? something about England fans throwing chairs ? Is it about that video in a pub ?