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Author:  Openside [ Wed May 16, 2018 4:36 pm ]
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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Openside wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
From world Cup:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -rz72mm338

I always knew there was something off about that flag.

Blimey that has got to be a first Police going with our travelling support to PROTECT them :shock: :shock:
I reckon it will kick off big styly and to a degree 'state encouraged' The small-dicked Russians will be wanting to show the world that Russians really have no redeeming features at all.


Sounds like you want a piece of it guvnor. Are you making the push to Moscow with our brave Tommys?



:lol: :lol:

Author:  Mahoney [ Wed May 16, 2018 4:43 pm ]
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Brazil wrote:
Mahoney wrote:
Brazil wrote:
And the culinary world is grateful for it. Presumably the ones waving the flags are people with a tenuous connection to the Acadians, a bit like the Druids we have running round in the UK.

Have you read "Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles: Their Nature and Legacy"? It's a pretty reasonable historical survey of pre-Christian British religion, and consequently mostly consists of "we don't know", "we haven't got a clue" and "your guess is as good as mine".

Interestingly the author is (or was) himself a pagan, but is quite clear that neo-paganism is an entirely new religion with essentially no link to pre-Christian beliefs.


I haven't, but I'll have a look for it. It sounds similar to a book about the pre-roman archaeology of London I once read where the author essentialy resorted to making it up fairly obviously.

Oh, he doesn't make stuff up - he just cheerfully acknowledges there's bugger all evidence for pretty much anything, and that therefore anyone claiming to be following an ancient British religion is making it up.

Author:  globus [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:24 pm ]
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Now this is a flag.

Iris pseudacorus

Author:  Anonymous. [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:25 pm ]
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Nieghorn wrote:
:lol: ... Mercia.

Surely an "Imperialistic" flag would be the Union Jack, not the St George cross?

I've never seen a St George flag on anything to do with Imperial documents, photos of events, etc. over on this side of the pond. That'd surely have triggered our uppity Scots and Orange Irish immigrants.

Amazing choice of word to use when they know its got SFA to do with imperialism.

Author:  Plato'sCave [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:33 pm ]
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FullbackAce wrote:
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

Image


It might need a little tweaking

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Author:  englishchief [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:38 pm ]
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You still find a few old school flags in South Africa if you look hard. Weird thing, flags.

Best flag is probably the Albanian one.

Author:  globus [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:45 pm ]
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It's the Union flag. Not the Jack. That is flown when a navy vessel is at anchor, debatable. Usually a rather large one like an aircraft carrier!

I can fly a blue ensign. Defaced. I'll not bore you with the details.

I do semaphore too. That's silly now. Waving flags, which was the responsibiity of the Admiral's fleet ship then.

I have a wonderful book on this. You can put up flags to ask the medical men what to do.

Most of it is very gory compared to today. I have detail, if you are interested.

Lots of it are about rather nasty amputations.

Cannon shooters were not in the best place on earth.

When fired, they came back with recoil. Some sailors did not get out of the way.

Rather like having Lomu hit you at speed.

Author:  etherman [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:48 pm ]
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globus wrote:
It is iconic. The Scots got their hands on it and the saltire arrived.

I'm wondering if we should add a leek and maybe a shamrock.

I'll try and get Damion Hirst on the case.


It already has St Patricks flag and Wales, as we all know, isn't a country.

Author:  etherman [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:49 pm ]
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Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

Image


It might need a little tweaking

Image

:lol:

Author:  Wendigo7 [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:49 pm ]
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Seneca of the Night wrote:
From world Cup:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -rz72mm338

I always knew there was something off about that flag.

What a stupid f**king thing to do.

Author:  Mahoney [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:52 pm ]
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The Flag Institute wrote:
It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.


https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/

Author:  globus [ Wed May 16, 2018 5:53 pm ]
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etherman wrote:
globus wrote:
It is iconic. The Scots got their hands on it and the saltire arrived.

I'm wondering if we should add a leek and maybe a shamrock.

I'll try and get Damion Hirst on the case.


It already has St Patricks flag and Wales, as we all know, isn't a country.

I might have to disappear into my bunkhole now. The Swarm are bad enough. The Welsh are going to have a right go at that one.

I'm under the blanket with my fingers in my ears.

My very best scrummie was Welsh and we still speak to each other!

Author:  globus [ Wed May 16, 2018 6:03 pm ]
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Mahoney wrote:
The Flag Institute wrote:
It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.


https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/

Cheers. Interesting. My great uncle, who was a Sea Lord, was irritated to thingummy about this.

I've just inherited his annoyance.

I got lectures. When we buried him he went down in a coffin with the Union Flag.

He was the inspiration for me to go sailing. He was the head of Trinity House at one time.

And you want to see what he brought back from afar.

His son has all of it. But assures me that he shall leave some bits to me. Including a gong the size of the one on the Rank films.

Lord knows where I'm going to put it.

Author:  c69 [ Wed May 16, 2018 6:10 pm ]
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etherman wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

Image


It might need a little tweaking

Image

:lol:

:lol:

Author:  Rowdy [ Wed May 16, 2018 7:10 pm ]
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I'm hoping Afua Hirsch will write an interesting article on this.

Author:  Enzedder [ Wed May 16, 2018 7:13 pm ]
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Plato'sCave wrote:
Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.


Don't take a chair to a baseball bat fight

Author:  frillage [ Wed May 16, 2018 7:17 pm ]
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Enzedder wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.


Don't take a chair to a baseball bat fight


They pull a chair, you pull a baseball bat
they send one of yous in the hospital, you send theirs to the gulag, that's the Moscow way.

Author:  iarmhiman [ Wed May 16, 2018 7:42 pm ]
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Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

Image


It might need a little tweaking

Image


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  SamShark [ Wed May 16, 2018 8:06 pm ]
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Image

:lol:

It would be better if the chair thrower was fat, bald and wearing shorts (possibly with a Russian skinhead striding towards him carrying a club)

Author:  alliswell [ Wed May 16, 2018 8:12 pm ]
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Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

Image


It might need a little tweaking

Image

:lol: :thumbup:

Author:  Anonymous. [ Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 pm ]
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globus wrote:
Mahoney wrote:
The Flag Institute wrote:
It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.


https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/

Cheers. Interesting. My great uncle, who was a Sea Lord, was irritated to thingummy about this.
.

Just a Sea Lord.Would have expected First Sea Lord

Author:  Taranaki Snapper [ Thu May 17, 2018 12:02 pm ]
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frillage wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.


Don't take a chair to a baseball bat fight


They pull a chair, you pull a baseball bat
they send one of yous in the hospital, you send theirs to the gulag, that's the Moscow way.


Image

Author:  frillage [ Thu May 17, 2018 1:33 pm ]
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:(( w
Taranaki Snapper wrote:
frillage wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
Just throw chairs like you normally do, that way we’ll all know where you’re proudly from.


Don't take a chair to a baseball bat fight


They pull a chair, you pull a baseball bat
they send one of yous in the hospital, you send theirs to the gulag, that's the Moscow way.


Image



fudge the Russians are brutal, at least give them alcohol first!

Author:  eldanielfire [ Thu May 17, 2018 1:47 pm ]
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Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

Image


It might need a little tweaking

Image



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  globus [ Thu May 17, 2018 3:43 pm ]
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Anonymous. wrote:
globus wrote:
Mahoney wrote:
The Flag Institute wrote:
It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.


https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/

Cheers. Interesting. My great uncle, who was a Sea Lord, was irritated to thingummy about this.
.

Just a Sea Lord.Would have expected First Sea Lord

He would not have been interested. It's a political appointment.

Author:  Red Chopper [ Thu May 17, 2018 3:58 pm ]
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Rowdy wrote:
I'm hoping Afua Hirsch will write an interesting article on this.

Quote:
The term 'Union Jack' entered common parlance post 1707 after the largesse arising from the merciless colonial exploitation of people of colour by the ruling white elite began to be widely distributed, and the resulting benefits felt, amongst those same self-serving white exploiters. To be both white British and an active participant in Empire was to have won the lottery of life, hence the coining of the phrase; ''Union? Yeh, I'm alright, Jack''. ''Union Jack'' is literally a spoken contraction of this phrase, ergo the flag is an indefensible racist icon.

Like this? ;)

Author:  JM2K6 [ Thu May 17, 2018 5:46 pm ]
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etherman wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

Image


It might need a little tweaking

Image

:lol:


That's awesome :lol:

Author:  Rowdy [ Thu May 17, 2018 7:07 pm ]
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Red Chopper wrote:
Rowdy wrote:
I'm hoping Afua Hirsch will write an interesting article on this.

Quote:
The term 'Union Jack' entered common parlance post 1707 after the largesse arising from the merciless colonial exploitation of people of colour by the ruling white elite began to be widely distributed, and the resulting benefits felt, amongst those same self-serving white exploiters. To be both white British and an active participant in Empire was to have won the lottery of life, hence the coining of the phrase; ''Union? Yeh, I'm alright, Jack''. ''Union Jack'' is literally a spoken contraction of this phrase, ergo the flag is an indefensible racist icon.

Like this? ;)

:thumbup: She never disappoints!

Author:  FullbackAce [ Thu May 17, 2018 7:24 pm ]
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JM2K6 wrote:
etherman wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
You lot are free to use ours, we won't be there anyway.

Image


It might need a little tweaking

Image

:lol:


That's awesome :lol:

What's this a reference to ? something about England fans throwing chairs ? Is it about that video in a pub ?

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