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Rooting for Argentina without much expectation. Would love to see England do well but that won't happen.


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Will be rooting for Croatia, Serbia and Spain.


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Gooooooooo, Panama :thumbup:


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It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That's only because we're supporting the England 'B' team.

To expand on my earlier post -

Ireland feel a rivalry with England but England have bigger fish to fry. England imagine a rivalry with Germany but traditionally the German's biggest rivalry has been with the Netherlands. Everyone looks up and around for competition, patronising those below.

In regards to supporting your neighbours, Spurs fans were hardly cheering on their fellow North Londoners in the Cup Winners' Cup Final 1995 and Champions League final 2006.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:17 pm 
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Tschussie wrote:
genghis khan wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
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It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That's only because we're supporting the England 'B' team.

To expand on my earlier post -

Ireland feel a rivalry with England but England have bigger fish to fry. England imagine a rivalry with Germany but traditionally the German's biggest rivalry has been with the Netherlands. Everyone looks up and around for competition, patronising those below.

In regards to supporting your neighbours, Spurs fans were hardly cheering on their fellow North Londoners in the Cup Winners' Cup Final 1995 and Champions League final 2006.


I'd add Italy to that. When I was in Cologne during the last World Cup, a few Germans were hoping that England would beat Italy, which initially came as a surprise to me, but then it must be like the two Manchester clubs and Liverpool. Not one Manchester United fan I know would want Liverpool to beat City unless it was to benefit them, whereas City always measure their success against United.


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Will be cheering on the Germans again, not because I overly like the Germans, but simply because the English folk I occasionally interact with, really do not like the Germans winning. :thumbup:


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Will be cheering on the Germans again, not because I overly like the Germans, but simply because the English folk I occasionally interact with, really do not like the Germans winning. :thumbup:


I hope Germany win as well and if they don't I hope Argentina win it.


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eldanielfire wrote:
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It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That means nothing. England's football supporters making dicks of themselves, singing offensive songs and generally showing disrespect to the locals will always ensure they never get our support or anyone elses for that matter


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I'd add Italy to that. When I was in Cologne during the last World Cup, a few Germans were hoping that England would beat Italy, which initially came as a surprise to me, but then it must be like the two Manchester clubs and Liverpool. Not one Manchester United fan I know would want Liverpool to beat City unless it was to benefit them, whereas City always measure their success against United.

Italy are up there because of how competitive they are but I don't think that there is the same level of bitterness as with the Dutch. Who could stay angry at the Italians?


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iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Tschussie wrote:
It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That means nothing. England's football supporters making dicks of themselves, singing offensive songs and generally showing disrespect to the locals will always ensure they never get our support or anyone elses for that matter


I went to the world cup in 2010, going straight from the airport to England vs Algeria. After that abortion of a match some English lad slapped a flag or something out of my brothers hand and told him to "shut the fack up". It was pretty funny to see the anger in his face.

Then we went to the England vs Germany match, the England fans made that a pretty unforgettable atmosphere with their "There were 10 German bombers in the air" and "Two World Wars, One World Cup" songs. The silence from them afterwards was funny too.


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iarmhiman wrote:
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Will be cheering on the Germans again, not because I overly like the Germans, but simply because the English folk I occasionally interact with, really do not like the Germans winning. :thumbup:


I hope Germany win as well and if they don't I hope Argentina win it.


Yeah, Argentina would be my second pick as well. Though now we sound like a couple of dodgy bastards with grandfathers formerly known as "Hans", who are now kicking about the back streets of Buenos Aires under the pseudonym Matias.


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10 German bombers is an inventive use of she'll be coming round the mountain, to be fair.

I'm sure the krauts have a few songs about 1871 when they play the French.


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10 German bombers is an inventive use of she'll be coming round the mountain, to be fair.

I'm sure the krauts have a few songs about 1871 when they play the French.


Amateurs. Macabre took Coming Round the Mountain to whole new levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gCnV3xTf88

Tis about Jeffrey Dahmer, so safe to say (lyrics-wise, no offensive visuals) it's not safe for work (or pretty much anything).


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I have zero interest in this, don't like Messi AT ALL, here in ARgentina lots of people call him "pecho frío", something like "cold chest" (on a rugby parallel he could be the Ronald O'Gara of football).

UNTIL I watched this, then I got 0,1 additional interest in this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNyEG52u6Ww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGIPbB2X8AY


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:51 pm 
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eldanielfire wrote:
Tschussie wrote:
It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.

I get where you’re coming from, but you’re all just so terrible.


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England, France and Colombia - in that order. So Germany it is then

Last World Cup saw some poorly controlled and quite dangerous experiments involving Caiperhina cocktails.

Any tips on Russian cocktails and vodkas?


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iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Tschussie wrote:
It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That means nothing. England's football supporters making dicks of themselves, singing offensive songs and generally showing disrespect to the locals will always ensure they never get our support or anyone elses for that matter


1) :lol: That hasn't stopped people supporting our Premiership teams, in most Irish people's case barely able to name the players from a team from their the Irish leagues.

2) So how's this different to Italian, Spanish, German, Argentinian supporters?

3) It's a small minority of supporters from any country.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:16 pm 
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eldanielfire wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Tschussie wrote:
It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That means nothing. England's football supporters making dicks of themselves, singing offensive songs and generally showing disrespect to the locals will always ensure they never get our support or anyone elses for that matter


1) :lol: That hasn't stopped people supporting our Premiership teams, in most Irish people's case barely able to name the players from a team from their the Irish leagues.

2) So how's this different to Italian, Spanish, German, Argentinian supporters?

3) It's a small minority of supporters from any country.


The fact you don't know why we don't shout for you and cheer for every opponent you play speaks volumes but isn't at all surprising.

England are basically a mini version of Glasgow Rangers when it comes to their supporters. I ain't following that.


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Tschussie wrote:
genghis khan wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Tschussie wrote:
It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That's only because we're supporting the England 'B' team.

To expand on my earlier post -

Ireland feel a rivalry with England but England have bigger fish to fry. England imagine a rivalry with Germany but traditionally the German's biggest rivalry has been with the Netherlands. Everyone looks up and around for competition, patronising those below.

In regards to supporting your neighbours, Spurs fans were hardly cheering on their fellow North Londoners in the Cup Winners' Cup Final 1995 and Champions League final 2006.

Yes that's fair.

I always support the Celtic Nations in the tournaments and hope/presume it's recipricated etc.

As for this tournament, Spain heavy favourites for me. Germany and Brazil just behind. Also... please, please anything so that Neymar doesn't win.

England to hopefully get to the Qtr Finals is my only wish. Even if it's a presumed favourable draw considering, it would be nice to just get back to military medium and then build from there. Anything more and I'll be in disneyland :lol:


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The fact you don't know why we don't shout for you and cheer for every opponent you play speaks volumes but isn't at all surprising.

England are basically a min version of Glasgow Rangers when it comes to their supporters. I ain't following that.



Yes, England are the worse. With Ultra's and nazi support right across Europe and record killings in South America. It's England with some of the lowest levels of violence, hooliganism and far right associations who are singled out. With virtually no evidence another iarmhim generalisation of entire peoples to be taken as fact :lol:.


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eldanielfire wrote:
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The fact you don't know why we don't shout for you and cheer for every opponent you play speaks volumes but isn't at all surprising.

England are basically a min version of Glasgow Rangers when it comes to their supporters. I ain't following that.



Yes, England are the worse. With Ultra's and nazi support right across Europe and record killings in South America. It's England with some of the lowest levels of violence, hooliganism and far right associations who are singled out. With virtually no evidence another iarmhim generalisation of entire peoples to be taken as fact :lol:.


Well you got your answer to why Irish people wouldn't support England. Don't ask again.


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iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Tschussie wrote:
It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That means nothing. England's football supporters making dicks of themselves, singing offensive songs and generally showing disrespect to the locals will always ensure they never get our support or anyone elses for that matter

I'm pretty sure they have one of the largest followings world wide.

Popularity of the fans no they aren't well liked we get that, but the team gets an awful lot of support from around the globe. Oddly, South Korea for example are very keen into the english team/premier league etc.


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Shock of the world cup - Iceland to beat Argentina. :D


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Shock of the world cup - Iceland to beat Argentina. :D


Possibly.

I'll be shouting for Argentina but Iceland will be a pain in the arse this tournament.


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My son has a German exam tomorrow at school. I think that’s enough of a link to allow me to support Germany.

England to get through the group and then go out. Peru can eat a bag of dicks.


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iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
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The fact you don't know why we don't shout for you and cheer for every opponent you play speaks volumes but isn't at all surprising.

England are basically a min version of Glasgow Rangers when it comes to their supporters. I ain't following that.



Yes, England are the worse. With Ultra's and nazi support right across Europe and record killings in South America. It's England with some of the lowest levels of violence, hooliganism and far right associations who are singled out. With virtually no evidence another iarmhim generalisation of entire peoples to be taken as fact :lol:.


Well you got your answer to why Irish people wouldn't support England. Don't ask again.


I didn't. I some very inconsistent and dubious anti-English ranting from the master of useless made-up generalisations.


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eldanielfire wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
The fact you don't know why we don't shout for you and cheer for every opponent you play speaks volumes but isn't at all surprising.

England are basically a min version of Glasgow Rangers when it comes to their supporters. I ain't following that.



Yes, England are the worse. With Ultra's and nazi support right across Europe and record killings in South America. It's England with some of the lowest levels of violence, hooliganism and far right associations who are singled out. With virtually no evidence another iarmhim generalisation of entire peoples to be taken as fact :lol:.


Well you got your answer to why Irish people wouldn't support England. Don't ask again.


I didn't. I some very inconsistent and dubious anti-English ranting from the master of useless made-up generalisations.


You wanted to know why Irish people don't shout for England. The answer is f**king obvious but you are on the dim side. Bless


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Wendigo7 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Tschussie wrote:
It stings when other countries are announcing their squads and your team hasn't qualified.

I will be throwing my half-hearted support behind the Polish and German lads in that order.


It's always a shame the Irish never get behind England, because in the reverse most English and English media will support Ireland.


That means nothing. England's football supporters making dicks of themselves, singing offensive songs and generally showing disrespect to the locals will always ensure they never get our support or anyone elses for that matter

I'm pretty sure they have one of the largest followings world wide.

Popularity of the fans no they aren't well liked we get that, but the team gets an awful lot of support from around the globe. Oddly, South Korea for example are very keen into the english team/premier league etc.


I was going to post this. The EPL has been huge in exporting Brand England around the world in this regard. Apparently every country in the world bar Albania and North Korea shows English games and no league comes close.


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iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
The fact you don't know why we don't shout for you and cheer for every opponent you play speaks volumes but isn't at all surprising.

England are basically a min version of Glasgow Rangers when it comes to their supporters. I ain't following that.



Yes, England are the worse. With Ultra's and nazi support right across Europe and record killings in South America. It's England with some of the lowest levels of violence, hooliganism and far right associations who are singled out. With virtually no evidence another iarmhim generalisation of entire peoples to be taken as fact :lol:.


Well you got your answer to why Irish people wouldn't support England. Don't ask again.


I didn't. I some very inconsistent and dubious anti-English ranting from the master of useless made-up generalisations.


You wanted to know why Irish people don't shout for England. The answer is f**king obvious but you are on the dim side. Bless


You've answered nothing mate and are trying to present your crap now as some sort of intelligent post. You didn't even reply to the obvious contradictions I pointed out because you can't.


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eldanielfire wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
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Yes, England are the worse. With Ultra's and nazi support right across Europe and record killings in South America. It's England with some of the lowest levels of violence, hooliganism and far right associations who are singled out. With virtually no evidence another iarmhim generalisation of entire peoples to be taken as fact :lol:.


Well you got your answer to why Irish people wouldn't support England. Don't ask again.


I didn't. I some very inconsistent and dubious anti-English ranting from the master of useless made-up generalisations.


You wanted to know why Irish people don't shout for England. The answer is f**king obvious but you are on the dim side. Bless


You've answered nothing mate and are trying to present your crap now as some sort of intelligent post. You didn't even reply to the obvious contradictions I pointed out because you can't.


I'll give you a clue. Man Utd, Liverpool, Celtic and Arsenal fans haven't rioted in our city and thrashed our stadium unlike another national teams supporters draped in union jacks and Georges Crosses.

Does that answer your question why Irish fans don't shout for the English side or do you want me to break it down even more for you? You'll get it eventually.....I hope


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English football fans are pretty objectionable and their edgy posturing and criminal damage does lack the roguish hi jinx of the Irish for example.

When a knife wielding terrorist entered a London Bridge pub shouting "Allah Akbar" to be greeted by "Fuck off, I'm Milwall" from a guy who took a few slashes, I was however somehow proud of their sort.


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English football fans are pretty objectionable and their edgy posturing and criminal damage does lack the roguish charm of the Irish for example.

When a knife wielding terrorist entered a London Bridge pub shouting "Allah Akbar" to be greeted by "Fuck off, I'm Milwall" from a guy who took a few slashes, I was however somehow proud of their sort.


In that scenario the Millwall bloke was minding his own business having a pint. If only the twats touring to England away games would just do the same.

Anyway best of luck to them winding up the Russians. That should end well.


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I wonder if the reputation that the English fans have acquired is self-perpetuating. The Irish and the Scots must travel with their fair share of shady characters but people like to feel welcomed, and long to be held close by the locals with sweet nothings about the craic whispered in their ears.


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Argentina to win or Spain or Germany or Brasil

England to just get out of the group followed by another embarrassing failure


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The difference is Irish and Scots fans of the national teams police their own fans. Anyone who steps out of line are dealt with by their own.

Not the same with English fans.


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Lacazette, Martial, Payet, Rabiot, Coman, Benzema all haven't made the French squad.


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The Irish are profoundly anti-English even if they plead otherwise.


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I'll give you a clue. Man Utd, Liverpool, Celtic and Arsenal fans haven't rioted in our city and thrashed our stadium unlike another national teams supporters draped in union jacks and Georges Crosses.

Does that answer your question why Irish fans don't shout for the English side or do you want me to break it down even more for you? You'll get it eventually.....I hope


Yes because (Celtic aside) they are all suddenly different people. Also a sudden moving of goalposts as well there.


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The Irish are profoundly anti-English even if they plead otherwise.


No issue with the English cricket side or rugby side.

Rivalry aside in rugby, the English rugby fans are top notch.


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Shock of the world cup - Iceland to beat Argentina. :D


Possibly.

I'll be shouting for Argentina but Iceland will be a pain in the arse this tournament.

Sadly I think the opposition will be well aware of Iceland this time round and they'll be plucky losers, but they'll lose.


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