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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:03 pm 
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Venue:
Estadio José Amalfitani (Estadio Vélez Sarsfield) - Capacity for 49,450 spectators

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Who:

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15. Emiliano Boffelli
14. Bautista Delguy
13. Matías Orlando
12. Jerónimo De la Fuente
11. Ramiro Moyano
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Gonzalo Bertranou
8. Javier Ortega Desio
7. Marcos Kremer
6. Tomás Lezana (captain)
5. Tomás Lavanini
4. Guido Petti
3. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro
2. Agustín Creevy
1. Santiago García Botta

Replacements:

16. Julián Montoya
17. Javier Díaz
18. Santiago Medrano
19. Matías Alemanno
20. Juan Manuel Leguizamón
21. Martín Landajo
22. Bautista Ezcurra
23. Juan Cruz Mallía

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15. Curwin Bosch
14. Sbu Nkosi
13. Lukhanyo Am
12. Andre Esterhuizen
11. Lwazi Mvovo
10. Robert du Preez
9. Louis Schreuder
8. Daniel du Preez
7. Jean-Luc du Preez
6. Philip van der Walt
5. Ruan Botha (c)
4. Tyler Paul
3. Thomas du Toit
2. Akker van der Merwe
1. Tendai Mtawarira

Replacements:

16. Franco Marais
17. Juan Schoeman
18. Ross Geldenhuys
19. Stephan Lewies
20. Jacques Vermeulen
21. Cameron Wright
22. Marius Louw
23. Makazole Mapimpi

History:

Played: 4

Jaguares: 0
Sharks: 4
Draw = 0

Last matches:

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5 Mar 2016 | Durban | Sharks 19 - 15 Jaguares

14 May 2016 | Buenos Aires | Jaguares 22 - 25 Sharks

8 Apr 2017 | Durban | Sharks 18 - 13 Jaguares

29 Apr 2017 | Buenos Aires | Jaguares 25 - 33 Sharks

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Friday 25 May

Kick Off :

SAT 16:40 (Buenos Aires, Argentina)
SAT 19:40 (UTC)
SUN 21:40 (Durban, South Africa)

Match Officials:

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Referee - Paul Williams (NZRU)

Assistant Referee 1 - Damian Schneider (UAR)
Assistant Referee 2 - Jose Covassi (UAR)

TMO - Santiago Borsani (UAR)

Buenos Aires weather forecast:

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:30 pm 
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Game with result very difficult to predict!
Which one of the Sharks are we going deal with?
With the one it beat Blues (63-40) and Highlanders (38-12) or the one it lost outrageously to Rebels (14-46) and Bulls (10-40)? :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 4:24 pm 
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I'll be hoping the boys can get a result. Should put up much more of a fight than the Bulls rolling on to their backs. After playing in second gear against the Chiefs, they should be well rested.

If the Jags form continues in to the national team, then Scotland and Wales better start preparing for a battering.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 4:28 pm 
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We've got this. The teams other Saffer unions struggle with we are normally good with.
Besides...its vital for both sides


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 4:29 pm 
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englishchief wrote:
If the Jags form continues in to the national team, then Scotland and Wales better start preparing for a battering.


I'm afraid tha national coach might have other ideas... a defferent SH to start with, which would be one of the worse ideas ever IMHO.


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Puma wrote:
englishchief wrote:
If the Jags form continues in to the national team, then Scotland and Wales better start preparing for a battering.


I'm afraid tha national coach might have other ideas... a defferent SH to start with, which would be one of the worse ideas ever IMHO.


Landajo is renowned all over the world for his excellent decision making, quick distribution out of the ruck and excellent support play...


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englishchief wrote:
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englishchief wrote:
If the Jags form continues in to the national team, then Scotland and Wales better start preparing for a battering.


I'm afraid tha national coach might have other ideas... a defferent SH to start with, which would be one of the worse ideas ever IMHO.


Landajo is renowned all over the world for his excellent decision making, quick distribution out of the ruck and excellent support play...


You're Martín Altberg and I want my 5 pounds...


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Puma wrote:
englishchief wrote:
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englishchief wrote:
If the Jags form continues in to the national team, then Scotland and Wales better start preparing for a battering.


I'm afraid tha national coach might have other ideas... a defferent SH to start with, which would be one of the worse ideas ever IMHO.


Landajo is renowned all over the world for his excellent decision making, quick distribution out of the ruck and excellent support play...


You're Martín Altberg and I want my 5 pounds...


:lol:


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 10:25 pm 
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Jags by 20.


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:25 am 
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They will find our defence a bit more of a challenge.
Very strange that the Bulls couldn't put in a performance like they did against the Sharks


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:28 am 
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Sards wrote:
They will find our defence a bit more of a challenge.
Very strange that the Bulls couldn't put in a performance like they did against the Sharks


I don't think any Saffer side can brag about its defence :uhoh:

Tries conceded:
Lions and Stormers: 48
Sharks: 46
Bulls 44


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Sards wrote:
They will find our defence a bit more of a challenge.
Very strange that the Bulls couldn't put in a performance like they did against the Sharks

Let's hope that the Sharks smash them.


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:50 am 
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Chilli wrote:
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They will find our defence a bit more of a challenge.
Very strange that the Bulls couldn't put in a performance like they did against the Sharks

Let's hope that the Sharks smash them.


A win will be good. A smashing will be better.
The Sharks victory against the Chiefs this past weekend was definitely against the grain. Wasn't supposed to happen as the Sharks have not made their home stadium a fortress. Rather an easy gimmie for touring sides...

So.....


This does not make me feel very confident about the match ahead. We are due a loss.


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:20 am 
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Los Jaguares 1.45 (5/11)
Sharks 3.1 (21/10)
Handicap: Jaguares -6.5


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This is the first time I'm looking forward to this game.

Sharks seem to prefer playing tough opposition away. Let's hope we treat the Jags as another kiwi team.


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:46 pm 
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I think they should appoint an Argentinian referee and give the Jaguares a 7 point start.

Just to make it more interesting for the viewers


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:10 pm 
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Sards wrote:
We've got this. The teams other Saffer unions struggle with we are normally good with.
Besides...its vital for both sides


When do your boys arrive in Buenos Aires?
Hiring a couple of dozen zorras to drain our rivals' energy is no easy task if we're short of time. :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 6:25 am 
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Carfer wrote:
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We've got this. The teams other Saffer unions struggle with we are normally good with.
Besides...its vital for both sides


When do your boys arrive in Buenos Aires?
Hiring a couple of dozen zorras to drain our rivals' energy is no easy task if we're short of time. :roll:


Good luck draining Jean Luc Du Preez, Dan Du Preez and Andre Esterhuizen s energy.

Your powder puff forwards are going to take a bit of a beating.

Just keep calm


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Referee Paul Williams

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AR1 Damian Schneider
AR2 Jose Covassi
TMO Santiago Borsani


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Jensrsa wrote:
Referee Paul Williams

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AR1 Damian Schneider
AR2 Jose Covassi
TMO Santiago Borsani



Cool. An Argentinan TMO to keep it even


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 11:42 am 
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Jensrsa wrote:
Referee Paul Williams

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AR1 Damian Schneider
AR2 Jose Covassi
TMO Santiago Borsani


:thumbup: Thanks for the data, when I get to the office I'll update the OP.


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This should be a cracker.

What are the crowd numbers usually like in Argentina?


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Merciless wrote:
This should be a cracker.

What are the crowd numbers usually like in Argentina?


Last game against the Bulls gathered approximately 12000 spectators. At the time of the games there is still sharing the third half in the clubs or returning home after enjoying Saturday at the clubs. That is why the UAR intended to play on Fridays at dusk but it was not possible to accommodate the fixture to that preference.


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Carfer wrote:
Merciless wrote:
This should be a cracker.

What are the crowd numbers usually like in Argentina?


Last game against the Bulls gathered approximately 12000 spectators. At the time of the games there is still sharing the third half in the clubs or returning home after enjoying Saturday at the clubs. That is why the UAR intended to play on Fridays at dusk but it was not possible to accommodate the fixture to that preference.

That's a good point.

During saturday's we have club rugby and honestly the large large majority of rugby funs attend their club games, it's not just rugby but social meetings with friends, etc..

Jaguares are attended by a large crowd of non rugby types.


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julian wrote:
Carfer wrote:
Merciless wrote:
This should be a cracker.

What are the crowd numbers usually like in Argentina?


Last game against the Bulls gathered approximately 12000 spectators. At the time of the games there is still sharing the third half in the clubs or returning home after enjoying Saturday at the clubs. That is why the UAR intended to play on Fridays at dusk but it was not possible to accommodate the fixture to that preference.

That's a good point.

During saturday's we have club rugby and honestly the large large majority of rugby funs attend their club games, it's not just rugby but social meetings with friends, etc..

Jaguares are attended by a large crowd of non rugby types.


That's interesting and also disappointing that Argentinian fans cannot attend the club games and the Jaguares games.

Would love to see a capacity crowd for a Jags home game, imagine the atmosphere.


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Merciless wrote:
julian wrote:
Carfer wrote:
Merciless wrote:
This should be a cracker.

What are the crowd numbers usually like in Argentina?


Last game against the Bulls gathered approximately 12000 spectators. At the time of the games there is still sharing the third half in the clubs or returning home after enjoying Saturday at the clubs. That is why the UAR intended to play on Fridays at dusk but it was not possible to accommodate the fixture to that preference.

That's a good point.

During saturday's we have club rugby and honestly the large large majority of rugby funs attend their club games, it's not just rugby but social meetings with friends, etc..

Jaguares are attended by a large crowd of non rugby types.


That's interesting and also disappointing that Argentinian fans cannot attend the club games and the Jaguares games.

Would love to see a capacity crowd for a Jags home game, imagine the atmosphere.



During Jaguares first season at SR stadium was usually sold out.


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Merciless wrote:
julian wrote:
Carfer wrote:
Merciless wrote:
This should be a cracker.

What are the crowd numbers usually like in Argentina?


Last game against the Bulls gathered approximately 12000 spectators. At the time of the games there is still sharing the third half in the clubs or returning home after enjoying Saturday at the clubs. That is why the UAR intended to play on Fridays at dusk but it was not possible to accommodate the fixture to that preference.

That's a good point.

During saturday's we have club rugby and honestly the large large majority of rugby funs attend their club games, it's not just rugby but social meetings with friends, etc..

Jaguares are attended by a large crowd of non rugby types.


That's interesting and also disappointing that Argentinian fans cannot attend the club games and the Jaguares games.

Would love to see a capacity crowd for a Jags home game, imagine the atmosphere.


This coming Friday is a holiday in Argentina and the semifinals of the Campeonato Nacional de Clubes will be held on Saturday.
Hopefully more people will come (despite the long weekend) but I don't think it will reach the 18,000 spectators who attended the first Jaguars game at home (March 19, 2016 against Chiefs).


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Are any of those players any good...?


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Are any of those players any good...?


Not many would make the Taranaki Girls u13 side.


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Are any of those players any good...?


Not many would make the Taranaki Girls u13 side.



We should have sent a B team like the Lions did.....


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Sards wrote:
Are any of those players any good...?


Lavanini is good................for a a yellow card


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Argentinian braai's are overrated......


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:32 am 
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Jags have been pretty impressive this season, esp with the away wins over NZ oppo.

Wonder what the current odds are on them winning the whole thing? Im certainly tipping them to top the conference.

A home final in BA would be very tough for any team


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Quietly confident here that we can come away with a win.

I wouldn't tinker too much with the team that has started the past few games.


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Are any of those players any good...?


Not really. Most of them are football (soccer) players who were left out of the list of 23 that Sampaoli gave yesterday and who, as a consolation prize for not being able to play the FIFA World Cup in Russia, sent them with Ledesma to face the powerful Sharks.


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Carfer wrote:
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Are any of those players any good...?


Not really. Most of them are football (soccer) players who were left out of the list of 23 that Sampaoli gave yesterday and who, as a consolation prize for not being able to play the FIFA World Cup in Russia, sent them with Ledesma to face the powerful Sharks.


We should have sent Banyana Banyana instead


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Carfer wrote:
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Are any of those players any good...?


Not really. Most of them are football (soccer) players who were left out of the list of 23 that Sampaoli gave yesterday and who, as a consolation prize for not being able to play the FIFA World Cup in Russia, sent them with Ledesma to face the powerful Sharks.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Argentinian braai's are overrated......


We don't do braai (wtf is that????) we do asados.

Like this:

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15. Curwin Bosch
14. Sbu Nkosi
13. Lukhanyo Am
12. Andre Esterhuizen
11. Lwazi Mvovo
10. Robert du Preez
9. Louis Schreuder
8. Daniel du Preez
7. Jean-Luc du Preez
6. Philip van der Walt
5. Ruan Botha (c)
4. Tyler Paul
3. Thomas du Toit
2. Akker van der Merwe
1. Tendai Mtawarira

Replacements
16. Franco Marais
17. Juan Schoeman
18. Ross Geldenhuys
19. Stephan Lewies
20. Jacques Vermeulen
21. Cameron Wright
22. Marius Louw
23. Makazole Mapimpi


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