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It's a short drive from a picturesque wee town called Marton, closest you'll get to the Scottish experience with more pubs per capita than anywhere else in the country.

Really? I spent a lot of time in Marton as a child, my grandmother lived there. I assumed it was dead now. Does it really still exist?

Far from being dead it is now the cultural and financial hub for a population close to 20,000 people. It boasts an all new New World super market, a refurbished Farmlands, a Holden dealership, two of the most prestigious private schools in the country (of course they don't like that fact attached) and at least 3 distinct main roads, a town with no clear identity. The closure of Lake Ellice added a whole new dimension of quirky Uber intellects drawing comparisons to other global cultural hubs such as the picturesque Cuba Street in Wellington or the inner suburbs of Henderson. Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.


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Bullshit, we didn't have any chicken runners in the 1960s :?

I don't suppose you'll ever get it.


Enlighten me oh wise one ;) You are South African correct?

Jokes bro, I take it your whanau moved over here in the 1990s?


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Hobbiton is worth the trip - BUT!!

Drive directly to the office, don't get the tour from within Town as it costs a lot more.

Also, you can actually stay longer at the Green Dragon and order more beer/food but they don't tell you.




But if you're unlucky to hit a busy day you'll be standing in a queue for 2 hours waiting for a guide

Whereas if you leave from Matamata on the bus you just go right on in


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It's a short drive from a picturesque wee town called Marton, closest you'll get to the Scottish experience with more pubs per capita than anywhere else in the country.

Really? I spent a lot of time in Marton as a child, my grandmother lived there. I assumed it was dead now. Does it really still exist?

Far from being dead it is now the cultural and financial hub for a population close to 20,000 people. It boasts an all new New World super market, a refurbished Farmlands, a Holden dealership, two of the most prestigious private schools in the country (of course they don't like that fact attached) and at least 3 distinct main roads, a town with no clear identity. The closure of Lake Ellice added a whole new dimension of quirky Uber intellects drawing comparisons to other global cultural hubs such as the picturesque Cuba Street in Wellington or the inner suburbs of Henderson. Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.



The good people at wikipedia tell me it is also the home town of Israel Dagg.


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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Hobbiton is worth the trip - BUT!!

Drive directly to the office, don't get the tour from within Town as it costs a lot more.

Also, you can actually stay longer at the Green Dragon and order more beer/food but they don't tell you.



Awesome, that's a great wee tip. Given it's the manifestation of a fictional place, I won't lose out on the tour guide's historical knowledge of the site either.


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usermame wrote:
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It's a short drive from a picturesque wee town called Marton, closest you'll get to the Scottish experience with more pubs per capita than anywhere else in the country.

Really? I spent a lot of time in Marton as a child, my grandmother lived there. I assumed it was dead now. Does it really still exist?

Far from being dead it is now the cultural and financial hub for a population close to 20,000 people. It boasts an all new New World super market, a refurbished Farmlands, a Holden dealership, two of the most prestigious private schools in the country (of course they don't like that fact attached) and at least 3 distinct main roads, a town with no clear identity. The closure of Lake Ellice added a whole new dimension of quirky Uber intellects drawing comparisons to other global cultural hubs such as the picturesque Cuba Street in Wellington or the inner suburbs of Henderson. Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.



The good people at wikipedia tell me it is also the home town of Israel Dagg.

Born there, but Hastings (next to Napier) is his actual 'hometown'.


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If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.


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Caley_Red wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Hobbiton is worth the trip - BUT!!

Drive directly to the office, don't get the tour from within Town as it costs a lot more.

Also, you can actually stay longer at the Green Dragon and order more beer/food but they don't tell you.



Awesome, that's a great wee tip. Given it's the manifestation of a fictional place, I won't lose out on the tour guide's historical knowledge of the site either.


For me it was very nostalgic as I'm from Devon - sitting in the pub with an Ale, a huge slab of Pork Pie watching the sun stream through the glass......it was like being back home :o


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If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.


I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.

With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism? :lol:


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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Caley_Red wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Hobbiton is worth the trip - BUT!!

Drive directly to the office, don't get the tour from within Town as it costs a lot more.

Also, you can actually stay longer at the Green Dragon and order more beer/food but they don't tell you.



Awesome, that's a great wee tip. Given it's the manifestation of a fictional place, I won't lose out on the tour guide's historical knowledge of the site either.


For me it was very nostalgic as I'm from Devon - sitting in the pub with an Ale, a huge slab of Pork Pie watching the sun stream through the glass......it was like being back home :o


Did the hairy feet increase the homely Devon sensation?

Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.


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Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.


Haven't you been to the Lord Nelson!?!

The Dudley is good but a bit out of the way.

Rozelle and Balmain have a few old style pubs - although a couple have closed recently.

Believe it or not, the best "English" style pub in Oz is in Albany. Probably due to the Whalers being based there but coming from the UK originally.


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Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.


Haven't you been to the Lord Nelson!?!



This!!


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Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.


Haven't you been to the Lord Nelson!?!

The Dudley is good but a bit out of the way.

Rozelle and Balmain have a few old style pubs - although a couple have closed recently.

Believe it or not, the best "English" style pub in Oz is in Albany. Probably due to the Whalers being based there but coming from the UK originally.


Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).
Yeah, I used to live in Balmain East and I loved the high street along there but have actually never been to Rozelle (shamefully).


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Bullshit, we didn't have any chicken runners in the 1960s :?

I don't suppose you'll ever get it.


Enlighten me oh wise one ;) You are South African correct?

Jokes bro, I take it your whanau moved over here in the 1990s?
No.

Some were here in 1860 odd. A fat vicar, I believe.


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Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).
Yeah, I used to live in Balmain East and I loved the high street along there but have actually never been to Rozelle (shamefully).


Yep.

I go there fairly regularly.

Rozelle is actually preferable to Balmain nowadays.

You should really join the Sydney Cabal, although it's a bit broken at present...


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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
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Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).
Yeah, I used to live in Balmain East and I loved the high street along there but have actually never been to Rozelle (shamefully).


Yep.

I go there fairly regularly.

Rozelle is actually preferable to Balmain nowadays.

You should really join the Sydney Cabal, although it's a bit broken at present...


That's good to know: Sydney's pub scene has been utterly ruined by overzealous local bureaucrats insisting that outside companies are hired to do the door. My record was, after going to withdraw some cash at the ATM, I was refused re-entry to the Coogee Bay Hotel despite still having a bit of my 1st pint left on the table. .

How does one join the Sydney Cabal? Would be good to know if people are off to watch some games.


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Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.


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That's good to know: Sydney's pub scene has been utterly ruined by overzealous local bureaucrats insisting that outside companies are hired to do the door. My record was, after going to withdraw some cash at the ATM, I was refused re-entry to the Coogee Bay Hotel despite still having a bit of my 1st pint left on the table. .

How does one join the Sydney Cabal? Would be good to know if people are off to watch some games.


We generally wear Pink Carnations..... :lol:

A fair few have moved away but there is still a few hardcore members.

Might be a small one next week


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Cheers Pat, yes- I fell for that myself whilst looking at the map but have since overlaid NZ onto Australia.
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Best rafting is in the South Island. Heli-raft into the Perth or Whataroa.

North Island, the rafting from River Valley near Taihape is pretty good. Ask to take the wrong routes run on the Kaituna trip to have a thrilling and bruising trip.


Thanks, will definitely be rafting at some point.


My recommendation is to go with this bunch: https://ecorafting.co.nz

Josh James (the Kiwi Bushman - plenty of youtube videos and was on some American survival show) runs the company, and he's a good laugh - always good for a yarn.

Helirafting though - so much more expensive. NZ$550 for a full day trip. Worth it though.


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I’ve always wondered what a tourist having been to QT thinks when they roll in to the NI equivalent, Rotorua. x(


NI equivalent? I thought Taupo was vying for the title 'Queenstown of the North'? Not a patch on Queenstown in reality but much nicer than Rotovegas.


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Any adventure stuff (jetboating, Bungy, Skydiving, rafting etc) is much cheaper to do in Taupo, rather than Queenstown.

Great pie shop in Taupo...coming from Huka falls/Craters of the moon, down the hill into Taupo, across the bridge, up the hill, turn left onto Spa road (supermarket on your left), a hundred metres or so on your left is a pie shop....great pies.


I drive past that pie shop daily on the way to work.

Didn't realise what I was missing!!! :lol: (I have had a pie from there and thought it was good but not worthy of a world wide plug on PR :lol: ).


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Any adventure stuff (jetboating, Bungy, Skydiving, rafting etc) is much cheaper to do in Taupo, rather than Queenstown.

Great pie shop in Taupo...coming from Huka falls/Craters of the moon, down the hill into Taupo, across the bridge, up the hill, turn left onto Spa road (supermarket on your left), a hundred metres or so on your left is a pie shop....great pies.


I drive past that pie shop daily on the way to work.

Didn't realise what I was missing!!! :lol: (I have had a pie from there and thought it was good but not worthy of a world wide plug on PR :lol: ).


There is a small bakery in Masterton, middle of the main drag, that serves magnificent pies. Try the steak and mushroom. The pastry is excellent and heaps of filling.


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This Rotorua discussion has gone a bit weird. Any time I hosted someone from overseas Rotorua has always been a well loved stop (and think of how hard it is for someone from Magpies country to say that about Steamers country).

There's lots that 'tourists' like to do and visit, even if a grumpy NZer doesn't.

That's fair. If it sounds and looks like it would be your thing then go for it. I'd recommend Coromandel and Waitomo as tourist spots in that general part of the country over Rotorua though.


One last defence of Rotorua then I'll give up. Totally disagree. Where can you see the stuff Rotorua has anywhere in the rest of the world? Only a handful of places and Rotorua would probably be the easiest to access. Coromandel is beautiful but is a bit out of the way. September/October, when the OP is here isn't really the ideal time for the Coromandel either. And Waitomo, other than the caves has...what? Plus it is out of the way. Rotorua is on the way south to Taupo, another spot that shouldn't be missed so why would you avoid it? If the wonders of nature don't interest you, maybe if you have been to Yellowstone and it didn't do it for you, sure, give Rotorua a pass. But otherwise as an international tourist you would be mad to bypass Rotorua. You'd be missing a unique part of not just NZ but the world. Just don't go expecting Queenstown like scenery or a pumping nightlife and you'll be fine.


One other great thing I'd point out about Rotovegas (although probably irrelevant to this thread and Caley-Red) is the awesome mountain biking in the Redwoods and the recently added downhill at the gondola. People literally travel from all around the world to ride these trails. World famous, literally. :thumbup:


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If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.


I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.

With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism? :lol:


No euphemism, no.

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Easy enough to bolt the pillion seat on.

It's a pretty neat way to enjoy the countryside IMO.

Don't feel obliged to, I'm happy enough to meet up for a quiet beer.


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Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.


I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.


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Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.


I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.


Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.


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Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.


I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.


Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.


Jazz Muller....could well have been him.. you could roll a tractor on a stopbank, or maybe just putting a wheel into a ditch.


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If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.


I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.

With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism? :lol:


No euphemism, no.

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Easy enough to bolt the pillion seat on.

It's a pretty neat way to enjoy the countryside IMO.

Don't feel obliged to, I'm happy enough to meet up for a quiet beer.


Not a euphemism, but he only needs the pillion for the ride to the peninsula!


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Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.


I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.


Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.

Just a few minutes north of Marton all the farmland turns to rolling hills.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.

Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.


I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)

"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".

Might have been Ken Gray.


Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.


Yeah, I met his brother a few years back and he told me the family had basically owned all the land on the eastern side of SH1 from Plimmerton to Pukerua Bay.


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If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.


I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.

With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism? :lol:


No euphemism, no.

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Easy enough to bolt the pillion seat on.

It's a pretty neat way to enjoy the countryside IMO.

Don't feel obliged to, I'm happy enough to meet up for a quiet beer.


Not a euphemism, but he only needs the pillion for the ride to the peninsula!


I'll certainly take you up on the beer!

I haven't been on a motorbike since I crashed one in Cambodia (about 20 mins after the first 2017 Lions - AB test concluded) so will have to banish the fear!

Are there any old school pubs in Dunedin? I am hoping they have also replicated the Edinburgh pubs. .


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Also, a general thanks to everyone who has contributed so far- I've begun transcribing the recommendations into a route complete with pie stops :)

I am not going until Sept but will post my finalized route and rough dates in case anyone knows of another pie shop or pub in the vicinity :lol:


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Also, a general thanks to everyone who has contributed so far- I've begun transcribing the recommendations into a route complete with pie stops :)

I am not going until Sept but will post my finalized route and rough dates in case anyone knows of another pie shop or pub in the vicinity :lol:


Well if you do make it to the recommended Taupo pie shop I can meet you at a pub later to wash it down. 🍻🍺

I live in Taupo. It's a pretty small town.


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The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie.... :shock:


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The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie.... :shock:


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Kiwias wrote:
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The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie.... :shock:


Kumara


Really? They spell it that way here.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:40 am 
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Caley_Red wrote:
Also, a general thanks to everyone who has contributed so far- I've begun transcribing the recommendations into a route complete with pie stops :)

I am not going until Sept but will post my finalized route and rough dates in case anyone knows of another pie shop or pub in the vicinity :lol:

Fat Bastard pies in Invercargill is probably not too bad. There's numerous bakeries in Welly. You'll be right, we love our pies.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:42 am 
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Caley_Red wrote:
frillage wrote:
SilverGrin wrote:
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If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.


I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.

With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism? :lol:


No euphemism, no.

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Easy enough to bolt the pillion seat on.

It's a pretty neat way to enjoy the countryside IMO.

Don't feel obliged to, I'm happy enough to meet up for a quiet beer.


Not a euphemism, but he only needs the pillion for the ride to the peninsula!


I'll certainly take you up on the beer!

I haven't been on a motorbike since I crashed one in Cambodia (about 20 mins after the first 2017 Lions - AB test concluded) so will have to banish the fear!

Are there any old school pubs in Dunedin? I am hoping they have also replicated the Edinburgh pubs. .

I've heard Starters bar in Dunedin is a popular stop amongst Scottish expats.


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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie.... :shock:


Kumara


Really? They spell it that way here.


I've never seen it spelt with an 'e'


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