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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:05 am 
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Love this guy. Not a bad little read.

https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/highlanders/legend-marty-banks


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:08 am 
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Read it yesterday. Really interesting. Loved the part of him playing for the Russian Mob, more or less.

I really wanted him to go to the Blues back when we had to put up with that shower of shite Ihaia West as our first choice first five.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:17 am 
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Solid read. Love hearing about guys who made the elite grades from Heartland unions.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:21 am 
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Can't believe Russia has a professional league.


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For a fairly short piece, that was very good and (of course) made me laugh.

I liked watching Banks play too.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:48 am 
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Now that's a story that should go out to every secondary school as required reading, and to most of the 'scarfie' teams as well. Who knows what nuggets it will unearth. Should be retitled though: "How to become a legend by being a good bastard!"


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:10 am 
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Nice article. :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:30 am 
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Now that is what I call a 'rugby man'.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:49 am 
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Great stuff...


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I wanted the Stormers to sign him in 2014. He would have been a great 10 for us then. :(


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:09 am 
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One of the most unique pathways in pro rugby and not a bad player either. :thumbup:


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CrazyIslander wrote:
Can't believe Russia has a professional league.


Good way to launder funds?



Makes me think... Kiwis are often so good/good enough that they can be journeymen all over, and even return home to the top level (Mike Delany at the moment). Are there journeymen like this in other countries, or do they focus more on the youngsters coming through?

The UK / Ireland would be more likely to hire a Kiwi, I guess, but trying to think if there are any more home grown 'old' guys who come in and do a job for a year or two like Andy Goode? Probably more likely in the forwards?


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 12:10 pm 
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Nieghorn wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Can't believe Russia has a professional league.


Good way to launder funds?



Makes me think... Kiwis are often so good/good enough that they can be journeymen all over, and even return home to the top level (Mike Delany at the moment). Are there journeymen like this in other countries, or do they focus more on the youngsters coming through?

The UK / Ireland would be more likely to hire a Kiwi, I guess, but trying to think if there are any more home grown 'old' guys who come in and do a job for a year or two like Andy Goode? Probably more likely in the forwards?

Marty Banks wasn't exactly old when he played super rugby (he's only 28 now), the problem is he missed the usual time guys get put into development squads and very quickly he felt like a pro career was passing by him. Possibly he was just a late bloomer and/or didn't train like a professional in his teens - which is basically a requirement these days. It's pretty amazing that a guy that was literally playing in the Siberian wilderness can go on to win against the B&I Lions and probably earn a decent chunk of change in Italy and Japan.

I can't speak for other countries but I doubt there would be many guys like him out there. He's a unique case.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 12:57 pm 
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Nieghorn wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Can't believe Russia has a professional league.


Good way to launder funds?



Makes me think... Kiwis are often so good/good enough that they can be journeymen all over, and even return home to the top level (Mike Delany at the moment). Are there journeymen like this in other countries, or do they focus more on the youngsters coming through?

The UK / Ireland would be more likely to hire a Kiwi, I guess, but trying to think if there are any more home grown 'old' guys who come in and do a job for a year or two like Andy Goode? Probably more likely in the forwards?


I think there is some fact you have to consider... NZ is only rugby, so everybody is a rugby player. But, they have no money, and the best money they can offer go to the very top level player there i guess (ABs like) ?
If so, good players have to go somewhere else to earn a living from rugby.

In Europe, good players can still earn a living from rugby by playing in their home country, while best player will earn huge loads of money in the same home country.

NZ is affected by the "we're good at, but have no money" syndrom. Hence the exile.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:17 pm 
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jolindien wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Can't believe Russia has a professional league.


Good way to launder funds?



Makes me think... Kiwis are often so good/good enough that they can be journeymen all over, and even return home to the top level (Mike Delany at the moment). Are there journeymen like this in other countries, or do they focus more on the youngsters coming through?

The UK / Ireland would be more likely to hire a Kiwi, I guess, but trying to think if there are any more home grown 'old' guys who come in and do a job for a year or two like Andy Goode? Probably more likely in the forwards?


I think there is some fact you have to consider... NZ is only rugby, so everybody is a rugby player. But, they have no money, and the best money they can offer go to the very top level player there i guess (ABs like) ?
If so, good players have to go somewhere else to earn a living from rugby.

In Europe, good players can still earn a living from rugby by playing in their home country, while best player will earn huge loads of money in the same home country.

NZ is affected by the "we're good at, but have no money" syndrom. Hence the exile.


NZ has more junior footballers than rugby players. Has done for a long time.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:22 pm 
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Enjoyed that, good read.


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I know a few other Kiwis, Toby Morland springs to mind, have played in Siberia.


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Marshall Banana wrote:
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I know a few other Kiwis, Toby Morland springs to mind, have played in Siberia.


Pehi Te Whare also played in Russia. Now playing club rugby back in Invercargill.

Here he is leading the Haka to end all Haka at an U21 championship many years back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmPVoln22Cw :lol:


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mr bungle wrote:
Marshall Banana wrote:
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I know a few other Kiwis, Toby Morland springs to mind, have played in Siberia.


Pehi Te Whare also played in Russia. Now playing club rugby back in Invercargill.

Here he is leading the Haka to end all Haka at an U21 championship many years back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmPVoln22Cw :lol:


:lol:

Nice!

I see Sammy T, Afoa, and Atiga - so that's looking like 2003.


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Nieghorn wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Can't believe Russia has a professional league.


Good way to launder funds?



Makes me think... Kiwis are often so good/good enough that they can be journeymen all over, and even return home to the top level (Mike Delany at the moment). Are there journeymen like this in other countries, or do they focus more on the youngsters coming through?

The UK / Ireland would be more likely to hire a Kiwi, I guess, but trying to think if there are any more home grown 'old' guys who come in and do a job for a year or two like Andy Goode? Probably more likely in the forwards?


Chris Cloete (ex Kings and SA ‘A’ flank, now with Munster) played a season in Sri Lanka.


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sunnybanana wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Can't believe Russia has a professional league.


Good way to launder funds?



Makes me think... Kiwis are often so good/good enough that they can be journeymen all over, and even return home to the top level (Mike Delany at the moment). Are there journeymen like this in other countries, or do they focus more on the youngsters coming through?

The UK / Ireland would be more likely to hire a Kiwi, I guess, but trying to think if there are any more home grown 'old' guys who come in and do a job for a year or two like Andy Goode? Probably more likely in the forwards?


Chris Cloete (ex Kings and SA ‘A’ flank, now with Munster) played a season in Sri Lanka.

Weirdly rugby has a decent following in places like Sri Lanka and Madagascar.


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