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When
11am (UK) Saturday, 9th June 2018


Teams

Australia


Scott Sio, Brandon Paenga-Amosa, Sekope Kepu, Izack Rodda, Adam Coleman, David Pocock, Michael Hooper, Caleb Timu, Will Genia, Bernard Foley, Dane Haylett-Petty, Kurtley Beale, Samu Kerevi, Marika Koroibete, Israel Folau.


Bench: Tolu Latu, Allan Alaalatoa, Taniela Tupou, Rob Simmons, Lukhan Tui, Pete Samu, Nick Phipps, Reece Hodge.



Ireland

15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 83 caps
14. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 67 caps
13. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 33 caps
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 7 caps
11. Jacob Stockdale (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 9 caps
10. Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Leinster) 10 caps
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 64 caps

1. Jack McGrath (St Mary's College/Leinster) 47 caps
2. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 3 caps
3. John Ryan (Cork Constitution/Munster) 13 caps
4. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 8 caps
5. Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 38 caps
6. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 47 caps capt
7. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster) 20 caps
8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 23 caps

Replacements
16. Sean Cronin (St Mary's College/Leinster) 61 caps
17. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 78 caps
18. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 23 caps
19. Quinn Roux (Galwegians/Connacht) 5 caps
20. Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster) 7 caps
21. Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) 21 caps
22. Johnny Sexton (St Mary's College/Leinster) 73 caps
23. Jordan Larmour (St Mary's College/Leinster) 3 caps



Head to Head



19 November 2006 Lansdowne Road, Dublin 21–6 Ireland
14 June 2008 Colonial Stadium, Melbourne 18–12 Australia
15 November 2009 Croke Park, Dublin 20–20 draw
26 June 2010 Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane 22–15 Australia
17 September 2011 Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand 15–6 Ireland
16 November 2013 Aviva Stadium, Dublin 15–32 Australia
22 November 2014 Aviva Stadium, Dublin 26–23 Ireland
26 November 2016 Aviva Stadium, Dublin 27–24 Ireland


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Referee: Marius van der Westhuizen (SA)
Assistant 1: TBC
Assistant 2: TBC
TMO: TBC


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Official: Fox Sports, Sky Sports Actin, Sky Sports Main Event. Rugby PAss

Unofficial for your friend: http://cricfree.tv

Weather

23C, light winds, 20% rain

News

Irish Times - http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby
Irish Examiner - http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/
Irish Independent http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/
Limerick Leader - http://www.limerickleader.ie/section/132/rugby
Clare Champion - http://www.clarechampion.ie/category/sports/
Kilkee Parish Newsleter - http://www.kilkeeparish.com/parish-newsletter/


The Age - https://www.theage.com.au
SMH - https://www.smh.com.au/
The Australian - https://www.theaustralian.com.au
Brisbane Times https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au


Betting (Bet365)

Australia – 21/20
Draw – 20/1
Ireland – 5/6

Rule 1

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In theory, Ireland should win quite easily. Wallabies always woeful for the first Test of the year. Cheika has lost his shine as coach. Some key positions have no depth at all. Suncorp is however a pretty good ground for the locals.

Any Irishers coming to this?


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Ireland by 5-10, it'll be a lot closer than many think but Ireland are still too strong.


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Bold OP :thumbup: :lol:


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Ireland by 5-10, it'll be a lot closer than many think but Ireland are still too strong.


It will be close. Ireland need to start winning test series on the road.


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danny_fitz wrote:
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Ireland by 5-10, it'll be a lot closer than many think but Ireland are still too strong.


It will be close. Ireland need to start winning test series on the road.


Not really how rugby works :lol:

We're touch and go to win this one because we have arguably our best squad of players ever while Australia are awful at the moment


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Bold OP :thumbup: :lol:


Aye, watch Australia now play their best rugby since the 2015 WC :lol:


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awful ? based on what, suparugby form ?
oz haven't played in 6 months


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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 9:16 am 
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Nah....Irish have got this. Just have to turn up.


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Looking forward to reading the usual hard hitting journalism from the Kilkee Newsletter.


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I sure hope the all-conquering Irish go easy on us and don't humiliate us too much.


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I fear for our collective bottoms.


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I fear for our collective bottoms.


And our women.


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Nah....Irish have got this. Just have to turn up.

I am not buying that for one moment. Cheika knows a lot about Irish rugby and on home turf it’ll be very tough for Ireland. I predict a 2-1 series victory for Aus. With an exhausted Irish squad after conquering all before then this season, I think the tour is a step too far, especially taking the fact that a lot of the core Ireland players came straight from a B&I Lions tour.


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What's a likely/possible Aus team?


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YOYO wrote:
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Nah....Irish have got this. Just have to turn up.

I am not buying that for one moment. Cheika knows a lot about Irish rugby and on home turf it’ll be very tough for Ireland. I predict a 2-1 series victory for Aus. With an exhausted Irish squad after conquering all before then this season, I think the tour is a step too far, especially taking the fact that a lot of the core Ireland players came straight from a B&I Lions tour.


Could be up to 8 tired Leinster players, who have just come through 1 x tough semi-final and 2 tough finals


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I'd expect we'll see

1. Sio
2. Ulese or BPA
3. Kepu
4. Rodda or Simmons
5. Coleman
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Poey
9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
14. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks
15. Folou

16. Ulese or BPA
17. Robertson
18. Tupou
19. Simmons or Rodda
20. Timu
21. Powell or Phipps
22. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
23. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks


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when was the last time an irish actress (or actor) won an oscar for best or supporting role?.. same for australia :P


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Zakar wrote:
I'd expect we'll see

1. Sio
2. Ulese or BPA
3. Kepu
4. Rodda or Simmons
5. Coleman
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Poey
9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
14. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks
15. Folou

16. Ulese or BPA
17. Robertson
18. Tupou
19. Simmons or Rodda
20. Timu
21. Powell or Phipps
22. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
23. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks

What’s the story with Christian Lealiifano?
He was pretty decent during his spell at Ulster. They managed him well there.

Who is Aus’s backup 10 to Foley?


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YOYO wrote:
Zakar wrote:
I'd expect we'll see

1. Sio
2. Ulese or BPA
3. Kepu
4. Rodda or Simmons
5. Coleman
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Poey
9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
14. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks
15. Folou

16. Ulese or BPA
17. Robertson
18. Tupou
19. Simmons or Rodda
20. Timu
21. Powell or Phipps
22. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
23. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks

What’s the story with Christian Lealiifano?
He was pretty decent during his spell at Ulster. They managed him well there.

Who is Aus’s backup 10 to Foley?


Beale and Hodge


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Bindi wrote:
I fear for our collective bottoms.


Nah, your boy Folou will not let that happen, both in the game and literally.


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Home advantage gents, I'd be hoping we can take 1 tests and that the lads enjoy themselves, catch up with a few relatives, etc,etc.


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Bindi wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Zakar wrote:
I'd expect we'll see

1. Sio
2. Ulese or BPA
3. Kepu
4. Rodda or Simmons
5. Coleman
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Poey
9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
14. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks
15. Folou

16. Ulese or BPA
17. Robertson
18. Tupou
19. Simmons or Rodda
20. Timu
21. Powell or Phipps
22. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
23. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks

What’s the story with Christian Lealiifano?
He was pretty decent during his spell at Ulster. They managed him well there.

Who is Aus’s backup 10 to Foley?


Beale and Hodge


Good backup so. Although I don’t know a lot of Hodge.


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Zakar wrote:
I'd expect we'll see

1. Sio
2. Ulese or BPA
3. Kepu
4. Rodda or Simmons
5. Coleman
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Poey
9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
14. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks
15. Folou

16. Ulese or BPA
17. Robertson
18. Tupou
19. Simmons or Rodda
20. Timu
21. Powell or Phipps
22. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
23. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks


DHP is back and looked pretty good on the weekend. Hopefully he’ll be on one wing to take his peppering of up and unders.


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Series odds, To win outright:

Australia 1/1
Ireland 5/6
Draw 25/1

Series score:

Ireland to win 2 - 1 6/4
Aus to win 2 - 1 17/10

Ireland win 3 - 0 5/1
Aus win 3 - 0 11/2


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Interesting to see that Pete Samu, who has been mainly used as a bench player for the duration of his Crusaders career, is being picked to start for the Wallabies at no.6 by some posters on this thread. Pretty meteoric rise for a fella that couldn't even get a SR contract in Australia two years ago.


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FairWeather_Aussie wrote:
Zakar wrote:
I'd expect we'll see

1. Sio
2. Ulese or BPA
3. Kepu
4. Rodda or Simmons
5. Coleman
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Poey
9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
14. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks
15. Folou

16. Ulese or BPA
17. Robertson
18. Tupou
19. Simmons or Rodda
20. Timu
21. Powell or Phipps
22. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
23. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks


DHP is back and looked pretty good on the weekend. Hopefully he’ll be on one wing to take his peppering of up and unders.

Provided you like slow backs whose tackling is a fúcking embarassment. He was utterly dire. DHP should be nowhere closer to the Wallabies than the crowd side of the sideline.


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Referee: Marius van der Westhuizen (SA)
Assistant 1: Paul Williams (NZ)
Assistant 2: Pascal Gaüzère (FFR)
TMO: Ben Skeen (NZ)


These 4 will do all 3 tests.


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YOYO wrote:
Zakar wrote:
I'd expect we'll see

1. Sio
2. Ulese or BPA
3. Kepu
4. Rodda or Simmons
5. Coleman
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Poey
9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
14. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks
15. Folou

16. Ulese or BPA
17. Robertson
18. Tupou
19. Simmons or Rodda
20. Timu
21. Powell or Phipps
22. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
23. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks

What’s the story with Christian Lealiifano?
He was pretty decent during his spell at Ulster. They managed him well there.

Who is Aus’s backup 10 to Foley?


He has been solid without being remarkable. I'd say he'd be one of those tapped on the shoulder if Foley was injured, but there is no clear backup. Beale and Hodge are capable of playing there and would do so if Foley went down mid test.

If it was before a match? God knows. There isn't a clear heir apparent, which is a worry.


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Interesting to see that Pete Samu, who has been mainly used as a bench player for the duration of his Crusaders career, is being picked to start for the Wallabies at no.6 by some posters on this thread. Pretty meteoric rise for a fella that couldn't even get a SR contract in Australia two years ago.


In don't think he should swan straight in, but expect he may well do. He's been signed by the brumbies ostensibly so he can play this June series.

We all know how good Saders coaching is.


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guy smiley wrote:
Bold OP :thumbup: :lol:


:lol: I'm going for ireland just on the rule 1 evidence.


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MungoMan wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:
Zakar wrote:
I'd expect we'll see

1. Sio
2. Ulese or BPA
3. Kepu
4. Rodda or Simmons
5. Coleman
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Poey
9. Genia
10. Foley
11. Hodge
12. Beale
13. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
14. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks
15. Folou

16. Ulese or BPA
17. Robertson
18. Tupou
19. Simmons or Rodda
20. Timu
21. Powell or Phipps
22. Kerevi/Kuridrani/Rona
23. Korobiete/Maddocks/Banks


DHP is back and looked pretty good on the weekend. Hopefully he’ll be on one wing to take his peppering of up and unders.

Provided you like slow backs whose tackling is a fúcking embarassment. He was utterly dire. DHP should be nowhere closer to the Wallabies than the crowd side of the sideline.


He's a good 15 but he isn't a wingers arsehole. He can link well with his wingers and has a good passing game, will often beat the first man and is dependible in the air.

If Folou was injured he'd be a good bet for fullback, but he's a liaility on the wing if the other team has any pace.


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I think this match will be awesome in that there will be some awe.


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Our first 15 is fairly predictable

Kearney
Earls
Ringrose
Aki
Stockdale
Sexton
Murray

Healy
Best
Furlong
Ryan
Henderson
POM
Leavy
Stander

Cronin
McGrath
Porter
Toner
Murphy/Conan
Marmion
Carbery
Larmour/Henshaw/Conway


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I see a lot of Polynesian names in the Aus squad + hard ground and I’m thinking this could be a chastening experience for a pasty one paced, kick it up em Irish squad.
It will be Super Rugby athleticism versus stodgy NH winter playing rugby.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
Interesting to see that Pete Samu, who has been mainly used as a bench player for the duration of his Crusaders career, is being picked to start for the Wallabies at no.6 by some posters on this thread. Pretty meteoric rise for a fella that couldn't even get a SR contract in Australia two years ago.


What's your point? Our 6's are either injured, similarly untested, or overseas. He's been starting @ 6 for the strongest team in Super rugby. No need to put him down as a bench player just because he's leaving.


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I see a lot of Polynesian names in the Aus squad + hard ground and I’m thinking this could be a chastening experience for a pasty one paced, kick it up em Irish squad.
It will be Super Rugby athleticism versus stodgy NH winter playing rugby.


Edit: I recall a good story pre professional era of Ireland always losing to SH opposition and trying to put their finger on it, wondering why they did not perform against the SH teams. The story was told by Keith Wood. It was probably mid ‘90’s. In one training sessions the lads apparently lathered themselves in false tan to make themselves look like the SH rugby players, thinking it would help break the psychological weakness by training against players that looked like Michael Lynagh and David Campese. Wood was laughing as he told the story. The false tan lasted one training session. I imagine a sworn secrecy pact was made that day never to tell that story.
:lol: :lol:

Am I imagining it or has anyone else heard that story?


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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/why-the-wallabies-can-t-afford-to-underestimate-a-red-hot-ireland-20180526-p4zho5.html

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Why the Wallabies can't afford to underestimate a red-hot Ireland


What is it about Ireland that produces outrageous hubris in Australian rugby fans?

Whether through a paucity of Test match-ups or a southern hemisphere bias, Wallabies supporters have had a dangerous tendency to either underestimate the quality of the Irish or overestimate the quality of any given Australian Test line-up.

If there was ever a time to pray hard to the injury gods for lenience in the final round of Super Rugby before the break, it is now.

Ireland coach Joe Schmidt is bringing out the best of his grand slam-winning Six Nations champions, many of whom are also coming off a European Cup title with Leinster. On the other side, Michael Cheika is blessed with rich and exciting depth in many positions, but there are some key concerns, not least of which is hooker.

We compare the likely line-ups for what is shaping up as a belter of a three-Test series, pitting the Six Nations champions and world No.2-ranked Irish against Cheika's proud, but typically slow-starting, Wallabies.

Back three

Ireland: Rob Kearney has had a mortgage on the No.15 Ireland jersey for many years and provides Schmidt with an old head in the back three, but Schmidt has also brought along Munster's Andrew Conway, who also plays on the wing and was unlucky to miss some of the Six Nations with a knee complaint. Keith Earls and Jacob Stockdale started on the wings against England, but youngster Jordan Larmour is the 20-year-old wunderkind who caught Cheika's eye during the European season.

Australia: Daryl Gibson is not wrong; NSW fullback Israel Folau is in the form of his life and will present Schmidt's Ireland with a major containment challenge. Marika Koroibete did his selection chances no harm with a hat-trick against the Rebels on Friday and utility Reece Hodge could shape up on the other wing. Big Fijian-born Taqele Naiyaravoro will be hard to look past, given his barnstorming form for the Waratahs and Koroibete's Rebels stablemate Jack Maddocks is also peaking at the right time.

Midfield

Ireland: Bundee Aki and Garry Ringrose linked up in Ireland's midfield during much of the Six Nations, but Robbie Henshaw gives Schmidt plenty of experience, albeit an injury worry, too. Henshaw will miss Scarlets' Pro14 match this weekend, but Ireland medical staff say they are confident he will travel.

and Wallabies attack coach Stephen Larkham love using Kurtley Beale inside No.10 Bernard Foley to give them that second playmaking option and Beale has shown some new-found nuance in his game for the Waratahs. Outside him, Tevita Kuridrani still shapes as the likely pick at No.13, despite a tough campaign with the Brumbies, although Curtis Rona will be pushing hard for more caps after a strong season for NSW.



Halves

Ireland: One of the most stable halves pairings running around world rugby, Conor Murray and Johnny Sexton, will be champing at the bit to test out the Wallabies. Sexton has been eyeing this tour for some time, having ticked off a Six Nations with Ireland and European Champions Cup title with Leinster. Murray was probably the only player Schmidt might have weighed up leaving at home; he started every Test for the British and Irish Lions last year and parlayed that into a full November schedule, Six Nations and Champions Cup season with Munster.


Australia: Bernard Foley has had no challengers for the No.10 jersey and Will Genia has been wrapped up in cotton wool down in Melbourne so that he may start at halfback in Brisbane. Genia v Murray will be a match-up for the ages: two players with enormous experience and mastery of their positions.

Back row


Ireland: With Sean O'Brien ruled out of the Six Nations, Schmidt turned to Dan Leavy and he did not disappoint. But he can also call on versatile back row option Jack Conan. CJ Stander will line up at No.8 and Munster's Peter O'Mahony will start at No.6.

Australia: Captain Michael Hooper will don the No.7 jersey and David Pocock will make his long-awaited return to Test rugby at No.8. Ned Hanigan is a chance at blindside flanker, but the Reds have produced plenty of options for Cheika, including Angus Scott-Young and Caleb Timu.

Second row

Ireland: James Ryan and Iain Henderson started against England in their final Six Nations showdown, but 58-Test veteran Devin Toner will present an experienced option should Schmidt need it. Tadhg Beirne will be looking to make his Ireland debut and may well make it given Henderson is also troubled by a knee injury.


Australia: Rob Simmons and Adam Coleman were the second row pairing in Australia's win against the All Blacks in Brisbane in October, but Kane Douglas is a Cheika favourite from way back and the big man is beginning to show us why up in Queensland under Brad Thorn.

Front row

Ireland: Schmidt has had a settled front row for some time in props Cian Healy and Tadhg Furlong and hooker Rory Best. Leinster's Jack McGrath will push hard to usurp Healy, but on the tight-head side the young Furlong, who hilariously had his Six Nations medal pilfered by his fanatical rugby-loving granny, will be hard to push off. As for hooker, Best has proven himself a magnificient captain, and is well supported by Cork-bred Leinster No.2 Sean Cronin.

Australia: Scott Sio and Sekope Kepu will step back into the starting jerseys at loose-head and tight-head, respectively, while young Rebel Jordan Uelese looks Cheika's pick at hooker. It will be the series of his life, packing down against Best.


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Poor Sean Cronin has probably never felt so insulted.


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Bindi wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Interesting to see that Pete Samu, who has been mainly used as a bench player for the duration of his Crusaders career, is being picked to start for the Wallabies at no.6 by some posters on this thread. Pretty meteoric rise for a fella that couldn't even get a SR contract in Australia two years ago.


What's your point? Our 6's are either injured, similarly untested, or overseas. He's been starting @ 6 for the strongest team in Super rugby. No need to put him down as a bench player just because he's leaving.


Pretty defensive answer. I'm not putting him down by saying that he has mainly been used as a bench player by the Crusaders, I'm simply stating a fact.

He has been a valuable part of a decent Crusaders team, I'm not suggesting otherwise. But for him to suddenly be in the running for a starting Wallaby role when he hasn't been in the conversation previously up until today - there is a touch of Brad Shields about his meteoric rise through the ranks.


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