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Is it the illuminati, lizard people or banking families behind it?

Or did a young British referee not ref a perfect game?

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Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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Kid A is good at making gifs but that's about it. Zero knowledge on rugby.


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Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise


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Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?




Because they are cowards.


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Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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That gif was from before the directive in 2016 pleb


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How do you explain the two completely wrong decisions during the lions tours at the deaths of the loss and draw which took away the series from them?


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How do you explain the two completely wrong decisions during the lions tours at the deaths of the loss and draw which took away the series from them?


Corruption mate. Poite making that decision led to a scrum which increased the work props have to do at the end of the game which could've led to a spinal injury which could've led to them going to the world leading Poisson Rouge spinal rehabilitation centre in Lyon which Poite has a 10% share in. Corruption


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All Blacks are reffed harsher than others. Last year they conceded less total penalties then their opposition but were shown more cards.

Hideous inconsistency but they just get on with playing Rugby. That's probably one of the reasons they're the best team in the world. No excuses despite the lopsided officiating.


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Clive Simms wrote:
Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.


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Kid A wrote:
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Because they are cowards.


Most kiwis thought the yellow call was harsh and that the ref made a mistake not goimg up stairs for a second look well before the second incident occurred. And most thought the second could easily have been given a card and was a worse tackle then the first.

But that's rugby. Refs make mistakes. Sometimes they favor your team. Sometimes they don't. It usually balances out in the long run.

People who can't admit that and insist on watching games with one eye shut, believing there is some kind of conspiracy, and picking only examples of errors that support that conspiracy, now they are the true cowards.


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JB1981 wrote:
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Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.

Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.


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Clive Simms wrote:
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Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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That gif was from before the directive in 2016 pleb

:lol: so no cards for high tackles before then? Do you think the directive brought those in? The gif is an example that calls don't always go the way you want or think they should - or indeed in the AB's favour. There's no need for the precious response.


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The Native wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.

Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.


Nah. Referees who think they might have made a mistake go to the TMO to check. Pearce had no intention of doing that in either incident. Because New Zealand.


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How do you explain the two completely wrong decisions during the lions tours at the deaths of the loss and draw which took away the series from them?


Amazing how little whinging there was about that in the end. The whole of NZ just shrugged.


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First gif: penalty only for the seatbelt tackle

Second gif: stonewall red card

'Nuff said


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How do you explain the two completely wrong decisions during the lions tours at the deaths of the loss and draw which took away the series from them?


Amazing how little whinging there was about that in the end. The whole of NZ just shrugged.

When you appreciate the game you realise these things happen. After so much unparalleled success we are fairly mellow and just move on. It's understandable why others struggle to do that.


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First gif: penalty only for the seatbelt tackle

Second gif: stonewall red card

'Nuff said


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The Native wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.

Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.

A tad harsh, he did asked Ayoub to look at the second so TBF he is young and relatively inexperienced and will come to learn in time that you never ask Ayoub for help.


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Kid A wrote:
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First gif: penalty only for the seatbelt tackle

Second gif: stonewall red card

'Nuff said


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Agree.


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The Native wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.

Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.
Yep. This is Wayne Barnes every time he laces his boots.


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JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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That gif was from before the directive in 2016 pleb

:lol: so no cards for high tackles before then? Do you think the directive brought those in? The gif is an example that calls don't always go the way you want or think they should - or indeed in the AB's favour. There's no need for the precious response.


The directive was a game changer for how high tackles were policed. Pointless comparing before and after


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JB1981 wrote:
Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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Richie had left his cloak on so the ref didn’t see it.


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JB1981 wrote:
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How do you explain the two completely wrong decisions during the lions tours at the deaths of the loss and draw which took away the series from them?


Amazing how little whinging there was about that in the end. The whole of NZ just shrugged.

When you appreciate the game you realise these things happen. After so much unparalleled success we are fairly mellow and just move on. It's understandable why others struggle to do that.


Yep. Best thing we can do on this thread is have compassion and empathy for Kid A. It is a dark place, and we can only hope that he gets the appropriate help to move him on in his journey.


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But that's rugby. Refs make mistakes. Sometimes they favor your team. Sometimes they don't. It usually balances out in the long run.

People who can't admit that and insist on watching games with one eye shut, believing there is some kind of conspiracy, and picking only examples of errors that support that conspiracy, now they are the true cowards.

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Clive Simms wrote:
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Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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That gif was from before the directive in 2016 pleb


Oh that’s ok then. Didn’t realise a swinging arm to the head was Textbook tackle back then


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Kid A wrote:
The Native wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.

Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.


Nah. Referees who think they might have made a mistake go to the TMO to check. Pearce had no intention of doing that in either incident. Because New Zealand.


And yet, posters were saying how great as he didn’t bow down to NZ’s aura.

Why do t you show the gif from the other angle which clearly shows an accidental head clash.

Poor kid A. Making silly gifs seem to define your life


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Kid A wrote:
The Native wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.

Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.


Nah. Referees who think they might have made a mistake go to the TMO to check. Pearce had no intention of doing that in either incident. Because New Zealand.

Didn’t he ask George in the second, explaining his reasoning for a penalty and got the Ayoub “agreed”?


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double red card on the 2nd gif shirley


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JB1981 wrote:
Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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That gif was from before the directive in 2016 pleb


Oh that’s ok then. Didn’t realise a swinging arm to the head was Textbook tackle back then


Of course it isn't but admit the second gif is a red and we're both in agreement


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Mr Mike wrote:
Kid A wrote:
The Native wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.

Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.


Nah. Referees who think they might have made a mistake go to the TMO to check. Pearce had no intention of doing that in either incident. Because New Zealand.

Didn’t he ask George in the second, explaining his reasoning for a penalty and got the Ayoub “agreed”?


Either way, 4 officials "missed" it


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double red card on the 2nd gif shirley

Wow you can send someone off twice! Wait dose that mean they get to come back on?


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Kid A wrote:
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Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.
Nah. Referees who think they might have made a mistake go to the TMO to check. Pearce had no intention of doing that in either incident. Because New Zealand.

Didn’t he ask George in the second, explaining his reasoning for a penalty and got the Ayoub “agreed”?
Either way, 4 officials "missed" it[/quote]Well they didn’t miss it, they explained their reasoning for the call. The Citing Commissioner will have an opportunity to revisit it.

But a tad rich whining about things when you get simple facts wrong yourself, even with the benefits of multiple replays and hours of festering.


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Clive Simms wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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That gif was from before the directive in 2016 pleb

:lol: so no cards for high tackles before then? Do you think the directive brought those in? The gif is an example that calls don't always go the way you want or think they should - or indeed in the AB's favour. There's no need for the precious response.


The directive was a game changer for how high tackles were policed. Pointless comparing before and after


That wasn’t a high tackle, it was a clothesline.


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Clive Simms wrote:
booze wrote:
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Your title should more accurately be 'An example of a referee making a mistake'. Either that or we need a lot more examples.

Here's one to start. I don't believe this was a card, or perhaps even a penalty.

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That gif was from before the directive in 2016 pleb


Oh that’s ok then. Didn’t realise a swinging arm to the head was Textbook tackle back then


Of course it isn't but admit the second gif is a red and we're both in agreement


On another day it might have been but I have also seen the other angle which showed an accidental head clash which isn’t a red card.


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Last AB try was dodge. Rest of the game was even Stephens calls wise


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Kid A doesn't actually want a debate. He just wants people to validate his tin foil expenditure.


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Kid A wrote:
The Native wrote:
JB1981 wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
Instead of having a go at Kid A why not debate the gifs?

Top one is play on, bottom one is red. Ref should've gone upstairs for both but he still has promise

I reject the premise of the OP that those are examples of NZ being refereed differently. They are examples of errors by the referee and as you say, both should have gone upstairs.

Exactly. The referee was out of his depth and shat the bed.


Nah. Referees who think they might have made a mistake go to the TMO to check. Pearce had no intention of doing that in either incident. Because New Zealand.

So, he shat the bed. Thanks for reiterating my point with different words.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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How do you explain the two completely wrong decisions during the lions tours at the deaths of the loss and draw which took away the series from them?


Amazing how little whinging there was about that in the end. The whole of NZ just shrugged.

When you appreciate the game you realise these things happen. After so much unparalleled success we are fairly mellow and just move on. It's understandable why others struggle to do that.


Yep. Best thing we can do on this thread is have compassion and empathy for Kid A. It is a dark place, and we can only hope that he gets the appropriate help to move him on in his journey.


Transmission of trauma through epigenetics you reckon? This has been building for more than 100 years Generation upon generation subject to constant defeat and humiliation. It's at times like this that you can appreciate how measured the Jews have been about the holocaust.


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