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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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This is a decent one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH7BBUnjUAE


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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Doc Rob wrote:
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Wales v Scotland 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paK0wdPVH3I

Wales down by 10 with less than 4 minutes to go and won by 7.


FFS. During that 4 minutes, Scotland were playing with 13 v 15 after two very soft YCs. And that was after having our entire back 3 stretchered off with freak injuries. It was a total disaster for us, and particularly hard to take, but calling it a choke is bollocks.


They panicked and started giving away penalties.
I seem to recall Robinson stating that they ballsed it up at the point the game was tied. Something to do about the restart but I forget what. You can't kick a restart straight out without a reset right? Or if time is up that is ok??
C...H...O...K....E


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I forgot about that kick he missed. That was the one. Anyway, they didn't have to wait too long.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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LandOTurk wrote:
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I forgot about that kick he missed. That was the one. Anyway, they didn't have to wait too long.


Tell that to BOD...


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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In terms of a team responding poorly to pressure and being utterly clueless as to what to do, I'd go NZ France 1999 semi final.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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LandOTurk wrote:
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Wales v Scotland 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paK0wdPVH3I

Wales down by 10 with less than 4 minutes to go and won by 7.


FFS. During that 4 minutes, Scotland were playing with 13 v 15 after two very soft YCs. And that was after having our entire back 3 stretchered off with freak injuries. It was a total disaster for us, and particularly hard to take, but calling it a choke is bollocks.


They panicked and started giving away penalties.
I seem to recall Robinson stating that they ballsed it up at the point the game was tied. Something to do about the restart but I forget what. You can't kick a restart straight out without a reset right? Or if time is up that is ok??
C...H...O...K....E


What part of ‘two-man advantage’ don’t you get? Choking is throwing the game away due to your own actions, not those of the referee. You might as well nominate Scotland losing to Australia in the RWC QF. If you want an actual example of Scotland choking, the obvious one would be Hastings Sr missing from in front of the posts in 1991 with a place in the final at stake.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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Tehui wrote:
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England at the Football world cup every 4 years.


Nah! They're jsut sh1t mate.


But at the start of every tournament the English fans & media tell us that England will win the world cup.

:roll: :uhoh:


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After the last Euros I think most England fans and commentators are just glad they are there.


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The answer is England today. Never seen that before.

Yeah I think 21pts is the biggest turnover for a tier 1 game in the pro era. Canada were involved ina big turnover in the last two, lost iirc


England lost the lead before halftime and never regained it. Hardly a choke - just a fast start against slow opposition who finally started playing at pace and bagged some tries themselves.

England against Wales at the RWC, despite being "only" a 10-point lead, was a choke.


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This is the first game where I can remember watching the whole 80 mins.

Eric Elwood, 1994

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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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Fiji over the weekend in the 7s series. Going in to the tournament having won something like 25 games on the trot in the series, just had to reach the semis to win the whole thing. Proceeds to lose to England in the quarters. :blush: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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JM2K6 wrote:
Tehui wrote:
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England at the Football world cup every 4 years.


Nah! They're jsut sh1t mate.


But at the start of every tournament the English fans & media tell us that England will win the world cup.

:roll: :uhoh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIy100tZd0


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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I have checked this everyday waiting to see Luke Pearce or World Rugby listed, but they haven't appeared. This is truly a thread of reason :thumbup:


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Nice thread title, possible merge with the masturbation thread


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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I am given to understand that DMac likes a good choke as he scores...


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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Sharks 2007 S14 final, sadly. :(


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Sharks 2007 S14 final, sadly. :(



Was a excellent day that. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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New Zealand in the 2011 final.

Bottled it big time, and were only saved by the ref's fear of what would happen to him if the All Blacks lost.


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Klusner/Donald for Proteas in 1999 semi final

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He said choke, not fixed!

We know, Aus were involved...


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Sharks 2007 S14 final, sadly. :(



Was a excellent day that. 8)

Who was the player that failed with the kick to touch?


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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handyman wrote:
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Sharks 2007 S14 final, sadly. :(



Was a excellent day that. 8)

Who was the player that failed with the kick to touch?


Ox's lovechild wasn't it


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New Zealand in the 2011 final.

Bottled it big time, and were only saved by the ref's fear of what would happen to him if the All Blacks lost.


what would have happenend?


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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Doc Rob wrote:
LandOTurk wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
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Wales v Scotland 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paK0wdPVH3I

Wales down by 10 with less than 4 minutes to go and won by 7.


FFS. During that 4 minutes, Scotland were playing with 13 v 15 after two very soft YCs. And that was after having our entire back 3 stretchered off with freak injuries. It was a total disaster for us, and particularly hard to take, but calling it a choke is bollocks.


They panicked and started giving away penalties.
I seem to recall Robinson stating that they ballsed it up at the point the game was tied. Something to do about the restart but I forget what. You can't kick a restart straight out without a reset right? Or if time is up that is ok??
C...H...O...K....E


What part of ‘two-man advantage’ don’t you get? Choking is throwing the game away due to your own actions, not those of the referee. You might as well nominate Scotland losing to Australia in the RWC QF. If you want an actual example of Scotland choking, the obvious one would be Hastings Sr missing from in front of the posts in 1991 with a place in the final at stake.


...or, more recently, losing to England in the group stages of the RWC because Nick De Luca was unable to simply pick up a loose ball and flop over the line for a try. Now THAT was a choke, and we failed to make the knockout stages because of it.


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Theses are chokes, but the Wail prefers to call them comebacks.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest chokes ever
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Team NZ's choke in the America's Cup has to be the gold standard surely? 8-1 up and lost 9-8. That's impressive.


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Team NZ's choke in the America's Cup has to be the gold standard surely? 8-1 up and lost 9-8. That's impressive.


And winning 400m in the 10th and deciding race, only for it to be called up when the wind stopped. Let me tell you, as a neutral, I was shattered.


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I don't count the America's Cup - the Americans changed their boat. There was no mental aspect to that loss.

It is a competition of "I have the biggest wallet, I make the rules".


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I don't count the America's Cup - the Americans changed their boat. There was no mental aspect to that loss.

It is a competition of "I have the biggest wallet, I make the rules".

The Americans had watched ETNZ foil and copied them. There was a lay day. They learnt how to foil and had a faster boat. ETNZ went for a easier to foil yet slower boat. I still consider it a choke though, I'm sure a more competent sailor than Dean Barker would've won that regatta. Grant Dalton has to shoulder some of the blame as well.


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The Native wrote:
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I don't count the America's Cup - the Americans changed their boat. There was no mental aspect to that loss.

It is a competition of "I have the biggest wallet, I make the rules".

The Americans had watched ETNZ foil and copied them. There was a lay day. They learnt how to foil and had a faster boat. ETNZ went for a easier to foil yet slower boat. I still consider it a choke though, I'm sure a more competent sailor than Dean Barker would've won that regatta. Grant Dalton has to shoulder some of the blame as well.


Fair enough - I don't know anything about sailing.


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J Man wrote:
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I don't count the America's Cup - the Americans changed their boat. There was no mental aspect to that loss.

It is a competition of "I have the biggest wallet, I make the rules".

The Americans had watched ETNZ foil and copied them. There was a lay day. They learnt how to foil and had a faster boat. ETNZ went for a easier to foil yet slower boat. I still consider it a choke though, I'm sure a more competent sailor than Dean Barker would've won that regatta. Grant Dalton has to shoulder some of the blame as well.


Fair enough - I don't know anything about sailing.


Only f*ckwits do. However, every 4 years half of nz becomes an expert. Make of that what you will......


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Only f*ckwits do. However, every 4 years half of nz becomes an expert. Make of that what you will......

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Bob Hawke - verified champion.

Look what he's wearing. Do you think he claims to know about sailing? He's half-cut and watching tv at work, laughing about how Australia was the first country on the planet to beat the Americans at a sport that we don't give a f*ck about.

If the world has seen a better politician since WWII than that guy I'll eat your arse with a spoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5mBShX9fdU

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Deep down, you know you all do really give a f*ck about it. F*ck me, I've lived almost 30 years in a town that owes its life to the damned thing.

What I like is how the whole country became an expert in it for 3 years, then pretended to not give a f*ck about it after Dennis Connor made you all his private dancers.


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Deep down, you know you all do really give a f*ck about it. F*ck me, I've lived almost 30 years in a town that owes its life to the damned thing.

What I like is how the whole country became an expert in it for 3 years, then pretended to not give a f*ck about it after Dennis Connor made you all his private dancers.


Who the f*ck is Dennis Conner?


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towny wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
Deep down, you know you all do really give a f*ck about it. F*ck me, I've lived almost 30 years in a town that owes its life to the damned thing.

What I like is how the whole country became an expert in it for 3 years, then pretended to not give a f*ck about it after Dennis Connor made you all his private dancers.


Who the f*ck is Dennis Conner?


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Team New Zealand, 2013 America's Cup.

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THREAD.

If only that image weren't from the 2017 America's Cup, won by, ummm...


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The Native wrote:
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I don't count the America's Cup - the Americans changed their boat. There was no mental aspect to that loss.

It is a competition of "I have the biggest wallet, I make the rules".

The Americans had watched ETNZ foil and copied them. There was a lay day. They learnt how to foil and had a faster boat. ETNZ went for a easier to foil yet slower boat. I still consider it a choke though, I'm sure a more competent sailor than Dean Barker would've won that regatta. Grant Dalton has to shoulder some of the blame as well.

Ray Davies made some monumental errors too. I think it was race 14 or 15 when OTUSAUS had near stalled towards the bottom reach mark with ETNZ bearing down at a good clip. All they had to was hold their course but Davies instructed Barker to gybe, they lost speed, OTUSAUS got up and it was game over.


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