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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:26 am 
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Series: SA 1-0 England

Kick-off: 17:05 SAST | 16:05 BST | 15:05 GMT/UTC | 01:05 AEST Sunday| 03:05 NZT Sunday

Toyota Stadium, Bloemfontein
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Capacity: 46 000

Weather:
Temp: 10°C
Wind: 8kmh SW
Rain: 0% Clear

Betting:
South Africa 1.69
England 2.45
Handicap: SA -4

Officials:
Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant 1: Glen Jackson (New Zealand)
Assistant 2: Ben O'Keeffe (New Zelaand)
TMO: Simon McDowell (Ireland)

Springboks:
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Coach: Rassie Erasmus
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Captain: Siya Kolisi

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Beast's 100th cap game
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South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 S'bu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 RG Snyman, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Tendai Mtawarira
Substitutes: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Thomas du Toit, 19 Jean-Luc du Preez, 20 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 21 Ivan van Zyl, 22 Jesse Kriel, 23 Warrick Gelant

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Coach: Eddie Jones
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Captain: Owen Farrell

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England: 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Owen Farrell (captain), 11 Mike Brown, 10 George Ford, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Tom Curry, 6 Brad Shields, 5 Maro Itoje, 4 Joe Launchbury, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 2 Jamie George, 1 Mako Vunipola
Substitutes: 16 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Harry Williams, 19 Mark Wilson, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Ben Spencer, 22 Danny Cipriani, 23 Denny Solomona

Test record SA vs England

Played: 39
SA Won: 24
England won: 13
Draws: 2

Tests in SA: 14
SA: 10
England: 3
Drawn: 1

Recent record:
16 June 2012: Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg - 36 – 27 South Africa
23 June 2012: Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth - 14 – 14 Draw
24 November 2012: Twickenham, London 15 – 16 - South Africa
15 November 2014: Twickenham, London 28 – 31 - South Africa
12 November 2016: Twickenham, London 37 – 21 - England
6 June 2018: Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg 42 - 39 - South Africa


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:00 am 
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Jens, are you coming for the game?


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Was there even a Well Done Bokke thread?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:05 am 
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Jens, was Faf your MotM? Or Duanne?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:07 am 
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Jens, was Faf your MotM? Or Duanne?


Faf and 2nd RG but Thor was good too. Was great to see the chicken runners stepping up for a change. :)


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I agree with you! RG wad immense. Really worried about Pollard's goal kicking


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Oh look Jens, you have a lap dog.


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Oh look Jens, you have a lap dog.


I think his account got hacked


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Does Rassie change a winning squad?
Will Trevor N make it back in?
Does AE need to be included in place of DDA?


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When will England realise their only decent 7 is Olly Robinson?


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When will England realise their only decent 7 is Olly Robinson?

Is he on this tour?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:42 am 
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Chilli wrote:
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When will England realise their only decent 7 is Olly Robinson?

Is he on this tour?


No. He's also pretty shit, so ignore the idiot.


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JM2K6 wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
When will England realise their only decent 7 is Olly Robinson?

Is he on this tour?


No. He's also pretty shit, so ignore the idiot.

Pity, any chance of a call up? We need you to be shitter than us.


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Chilli wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
When will England realise their only decent 7 is Olly Robinson?

Is he on this tour?


No. He's also pretty shit, so ignore the idiot.

Pity, any chance of a call up? We need you to be shitter than us.


You're going to love what you see when you finally watch the first Test!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:48 am 
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Poite is reffing. Boks to be blown off the park.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:56 am 
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obelixtim wrote:
Poite is reffing. Boks to be blown off the park.


yep

never was big enough a man to recover from the debacle at Eden Park in 2013


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JM2K6 wrote:
Chilli wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
When will England realise their only decent 7 is Olly Robinson?

Is he on this tour?


No. He's also pretty shit, so ignore the idiot.

Pity, any chance of a call up? We need you to be shitter than us.


You're going to love what you see when you finally watch the first Test!

I can't get the first 18 odd minutes out of my mind.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:05 am 
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Chilli wrote:
I can't get the first 18 odd minutes out of my mind.


it's like they did not take the trouble to watch any footage on how Ford plays the game


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Trevor Nyakane out of the series due to injury


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JM2K6 wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
When will England realise their only decent 7 is Olly Robinson?

Is he on this tour?


No. He's also pretty shit, so ignore the idiot.


"Pretty shit" makes you top of the queue if you are an England 7. Robinson was outstanding in the European final. I am going to bump this post in 2 years time and look smarter than you JM2K6. I will look smarter than you and you will regret the day you engaged conversation with me


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:21 pm 
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Clive Simms wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:
When will England realise their only decent 7 is Olly Robinson?

Is he on this tour?


No. He's also pretty shit, so ignore the idiot.


"Pretty shit" makes you top of the queue if you are an England 7. Robinson was outstanding in the European final. I am going to bump this post in 2 years time and look smarter than you JM2K6. I will look smarter than you and you will regret the day you engaged conversation with me


I regret every second I engage in conversation with you.

Robinson played pretty well in the Mickey Mouse Euro Cup, joining people like Luke Wallace. He's a desperately flawed player who barely stood out at a lower level and had to move to Wales just to get game time.


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I am asking to be absolved from watching or commenting on this.

I shall take the dog out for a long walk along the river during the match.

On returning, I shall ask the Management for the score.

If it goes the way I think it will, I shall return alone to said river and chuck myself in.

At least the dog will be safe.


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Time for Mark Wilson to make a bow in the test team.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:52 pm 
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I am asking to be absolved from watching or commenting on this.

I shall take the dog out for a long walk along the river during the match.

On returning, I shall ask the Management for the score.

If it goes the way I think it will, I shall return alone to said river and chuck myself in.

At least the dog will be safe.
are you a sir?


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Boks defence will be much better. Boks by 15


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Monk Zombie wrote:
Chilli wrote:
I can't get the first 18 odd minutes out of my mind.


it's like they did not take the trouble to watch any footage on how Ford plays the game



Didn't Rassie admit that he got it wrong and they had to change tactics after 20 mins.


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mdaclarke wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:
Chilli wrote:
I can't get the first 18 odd minutes out of my mind.


it's like they did not take the trouble to watch any footage on how Ford plays the game



Didn't Rassie admit that he got it wrong and they had to change tactics after 20 mins.

Yep. He planned for England to kick, and it took twenty minutes to adjust.


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mdaclarke wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:
Chilli wrote:
I can't get the first 18 odd minutes out of my mind.


it's like they did not take the trouble to watch any footage on how Ford plays the game



Didn't Rassie admit that he got it wrong and they had to change tactics after 20 mins.

Does that mean the defense was hanging back rather than pressing ?


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Fangle wrote:
mdaclarke wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:
Chilli wrote:
I can't get the first 18 odd minutes out of my mind.


it's like they did not take the trouble to watch any footage on how Ford plays the game



Didn't Rassie admit that he got it wrong and they had to change tactics after 20 mins.

Yep. He planned for England to kick, and it took twenty minutes to adjust.

200% improvement on the past, when we completely failed to adapt after 80 minutes.


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Don't need any changes to the last team. Build on the consistency. Just need to find quality 9 and 10 bench options. Wilco needs a break. He's been overplayed and looks done. Thomas to start with Malherbe/Louw on the bench? Hopefully Malherbe has been running 8 hours a day on the treadmill...

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Ox Nche, Jason Jenkins, Kwagga Smith, Nizaam Carr, Travis Ismaiel, Curwin Bosch and Cameron Wright have been released back to their franchises following the opening Test in Johannesburg.

Meanwhile, it was also confirmed that prop Trevor Nyakane has been withdrawn from the squad because of injury.

Hookers:
Akker van der Merwe
Bongi Mbonambi
Chiliboy Ralepelle

Props:
Thomas du Toit
Tendai Mtawarira
Steven Kitshoff
Wilco Louw
Frans Malherbe

Locks:
Pieter-Steph du Toit
Franco Mostert
RG Snyman
Marvin Orie

Loosies:
Jean-Luc du Preez
Sikhumbuzo Notshe
Siya Kolisi
Duane Vermeulen
Dan du Preez
Oupa Mohojé

Scrummies:
Faf de Klerk
Ivan van Zyl
Embrose Papier

Flyhalves:
Elton Jantjies
Handré Pollard
Robert du Preez

Centres:
Lukhanyo Am
Damian de Allende
André Esterhuizen
Jesse Kriel

Wings:
Sibusiso Nkosi
Aphiwe Dyantyi
Makazole Mapimpi

Fullbacks:
Warrick Gelant
Willie le Roux


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Big Nipper wrote:
Was there even a Well Done Bokke thread?
A congrats thread, yes, you posted on it:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85841&hilit=Congrats

One also for the Aussies

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85838&hilit=Congrats

And the Kiwis

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85833&hilit=Congrats


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Mr Mike wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
Was there even a Well Done Bokke thread?
A congrats thread, yes, you posted on it:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85841&hilit=Congrats

One also for the Aussies

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85838&hilit=Congrats

And the Kiwis

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85833&hilit=Congrats

Mr Mike, it is Nipper.....................................


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I have a sneaky suspicion that England are going to take this one.

They played much better in the second half of the first test, I think they'll keep the momentum up.


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Chilli wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
Was there even a Well Done Bokke thread?
A congrats thread, yes, you posted on it:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85841&hilit=Congrats

One also for the Aussies

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85838&hilit=Congrats

And the Kiwis

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85833&hilit=Congrats

Mr Mike, it is Nipper.....................................

:blush: Nipper is getting worse by the day.

Sorry Mr Mike, you know us better then that. :smug:


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I have a sneaky suspicion that England are going to take this one.

They played much better in the second half of the first test, I think they'll keep the momentum up.

You are wrong. We'll knock them over in style. The third one we may drop.


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assfly wrote:
I have a sneaky suspicion that England are going to take this one.

They played much better in the second half of the first test, I think they'll keep the momentum up.

You are wrong. We'll knock them over in style. The third one we may drop.


ok


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England faded rapidly in the first game...normally it would take at least 40 minutes......I expect a far tougher encounter.
The chances of Faf and Willie have another blinder like the past weekend is slim


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The Springboks came through their thrilling first Test win over England on Saturday unscathed except for a few minor injuries.

Fullback Willie le Roux, scrumhalf Faf de Klerk and flyhalf Handré Pollard are expected to be fit for Bloemfontein at the weekend.

Coach Rassie Erasmus confirmed that Le Roux and De Klerk struggled with minor cramps while Pollard’s shoulder issue is not expected to rule him out of the second Test.

Le Roux was replaced by Warrick Gelant for his second international match after 64 minutes, Ivan van Zyl came on for De Klerk in the 73rd minute, while Pollard lasted the whole game.

"Willie and Faf were just cramps and Handré has a bit of a shoulder problem," he said, acknowledging that the niggles were not worrying.

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/sport/rugby/2018-06-10-springboks-all-good-for-second-test-despite-some-minor-injuries/


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Tough to predict really
All our subs coming on probably prevented us from winning more comfortably since England was on the ropes in the third quarter
If that doesn't happen next week after the long season England's players had it could be an easier game for us
A better english backrow will improve them a lot though and they have the ability to put up a big score again
But so do we - our youngsters looked pretty fearless


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OomPB wrote:
globus wrote:
I am asking to be absolved from watching or commenting on this.

I shall take the dog out for a long walk along the river during the match.

On returning, I shall ask the Management for the score.

If it goes the way I think it will, I shall return alone to said river and chuck myself in.

At least the dog will be safe.
are you a sir?

Not yet. Here's hoping............


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