Re: Is Alan Sugar racist ?
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:22 pm
Twitter probably has.Mick Mannock wrote:Has anyone declared that Sugar IS racist?
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Twitter probably has.Mick Mannock wrote:Has anyone declared that Sugar IS racist?
Presume she’s called Maizie ?happyhooker wrote:I just asked my maize based girlfriend and she can't tell the difference either, so there.A5D5E5 wrote:Snackist. There is more genetic diversity within a bag of sweet and salt popcorn than between any two potato based snacks.happyhooker wrote:Popcorn all looks the same to meAkkerman wrote:thread is going well, but i'm out of popcorn
I am prepared to accept that this tweet confirms Sugar as racist...if only to feel better about describing Healy as a stamper.fatcat wrote:Twitter probably has.Mick Mannock wrote:Has anyone declared that Sugar IS racist?
Doesn't bear thinking about really.Seneca of the Night wrote:I don't know what this place would do without the seemingly endless fine definitions of racism from earnest Irish posters.
Seneca of the Night wrote:I don't know what this place would do without the seemingly endless fine definitions of racism from earnest Irish posters.
On the All Whites themeJ Man wrote:To me, they do all look the same.
In the same way that I'd guess a Korean would think all whities look the same.
World Cup 2018: South Korea coach made players swap shirts to confuse 'Swedish spies'
South Korea’s manager made his players wear different shirts in pre-World Cup friendlies to confuse 'Swedish spies'.
Shin Tae-yong devised the clever plan ahead of South Korea's high-pressure World Cup opening game against Sweden on Monday.
"We switched them around because we didn't want to show our opponents everything and try to confuse them," Shin Tae-yong told a press conference in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia.
"They might know a few of our players but it is very difficult for Westerners to distinguish between Asians and that's why we did that.
Mr Mike wrote:On the All Whites themeJ Man wrote:To me, they do all look the same.
In the same way that I'd guess a Korean would think all whities look the same.
World Cup 2018: South Korea coach made players swap shirts to confuse 'Swedish spies'
South Korea’s manager made his players wear different shirts in pre-World Cup friendlies to confuse 'Swedish spies'.
Shin Tae-yong devised the clever plan ahead of South Korea's high-pressure World Cup opening game against Sweden on Monday.
"We switched them around because we didn't want to show our opponents everything and try to confuse them," Shin Tae-yong told a press conference in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia.
"They might know a few of our players but it is very difficult for Westerners to distinguish between Asians and that's why we did that.
If I had to spy on the Finland team or the Senegal team I would have to identify the players by the numbers on their jerseys as I would the Korean team. I've got no idea who they are. Unless people look strikingly different you tend to recognise them through seeing them a few times. Saying all the Senegalese players look the same is like saying you can't tell Usain Bolt, Kanye West apart from their facial features.J Man wrote:So is the Korean soccer coach racist in acknowledging that Caucasians think Asians look similar?
Nolanator wrote:What do New Yorkers look like?
In East Africa they use 'Mzungu' - basically means 'white person'.danny_fitz wrote:I had some amusing conversations in west Africa where it was common acceptance that all white people looked the same. Generally we were just called 'Obruni' which is slang for any white foreigner. There was zero negative association with the word and was often used to get your attention in a crowd. Outside of obvious markers like hair colour or facial hair most whites were seen as indistinguishable. Gingers though were hunted down and their parts sold down the local fetish markets.fishooks15 wrote:The joke is premised on the idea that all West Africans look the same. It's textbook racistMog The Almighty wrote:What bit is "racist"?
It's just a shit joke.
And, not even funny.
Plato'sCave wrote:What is it with those guys in the photo that makes them look like beach sellers in Marbella ?
He clearly does not think they all look the samefishooks15 wrote:The joke is premised on the idea that all West Africans look the same. It's textbook racistMog The Almighty wrote:What bit is "racist"?
It's just a shit joke.
And, not even funny.
I suspect, as is often the case, the reactions on here partly reflect people's opinion of the author (in this case Sugar).c69 wrote:Ffs it was a shit comment not funny.
Move the feck on.
I don't know him from a bar of soap. It was a shit joke that was a bit racist.Mick Mannock wrote:I suspect, as is often the case, the reactions on here partly reflect people's opinion of the author (in this case Sugar).c69 wrote:Ffs it was a shit comment not funny.
Move the feck on.
Those who dislike him anyway, will condemn him as Hitler.
Is he Jewish? Did I accidentally make a terrible Jewish joke?Seneca of the Night wrote:Bar of soap huh.Zakar wrote:I don't know him from a bar of soap. It was a shit joke that was a bit racist.Mick Mannock wrote:I suspect, as is often the case, the reactions on here partly reflect people's opinion of the author (in this case Sugar).c69 wrote:Ffs it was a shit comment not funny.
Move the feck on.
Those who dislike him anyway, will condemn him as Hitler.
YupZakar wrote:Is he Jewish? Did I accidentally make a terrible Jewish joke?Seneca of the Night wrote:Bar of soap huh.Zakar wrote:I don't know him from a bar of soap. It was a shit joke that was a bit racist.Mick Mannock wrote:I suspect, as is often the case, the reactions on here partly reflect people's opinion of the author (in this case Sugar).c69 wrote:Ffs it was a shit comment not funny.
Move the feck on.
Those who dislike him anyway, will condemn him as Hitler.
Never heard that myself, so looked it up.Zakar wrote:Is he Jewish? Did I accidentally make a terrible Jewish joke?
It depends how long they had been detained. I do not think Treblinka offered a stay of sufficient duration to lose much weight.Nolanator wrote:Never heard that myself, so looked it up.Zakar wrote:Is he Jewish? Did I accidentally make a terrible Jewish joke?
Apparently there were accusations that the Nazis made soap out of human fat from corpses from the concentration camps. Never proven, though.
Have to say, I wouldn't have thought there'd be much usable fat on a person who died in a concentration camp.
Mick Mannock wrote:Plato'sCave wrote:What is it with those guys in the photo that makes them look like beach sellers in Marbella ?
Do we have a photo of those Marbella beach sellers?
All true, but are caucasians racist because Africans look the same to them? Perhaps Sugar is making a joke at his own expense, based on his innate inability to tell the difference between African people, and the general disposition of western people to differentiate based on hair colour etc? Or perhaps he's just an out of touch wit kant. Either way, not really worth all the outrage.koroke hangareka wrote:Sure thing. The problem is equating this:Mog The Almighty wrote:
Most people's have extremely similar coloured eye colour, hair colour, skin color, hair texture, etc. compared to Caucasians where its entirely possible that even brothers may have red or bloke or brown or black hair, curly, Davey, straight, blue, brown or green eyes, white freckled skin or dark olive skin. This is simply not the case for, say, Asians or Africans, in general.
This does not mean other people are identical. Just they look more similar than Caucasians. This is not a value judgement, neither thing is "better" or "worse", it's just an undeniable fact of human demography and reality. Please explain how that's "bullshit" WITHOUT resorting to strawman arguments.with this:They all have the same skin-colour, the same uniform, the same hair colour, the same eye colour, the same hair texture and very similar haircuts.
The picture you're looking at shows eleven distinctly different people. You think they look the same because you're seeing just the similarities. Leaving out the uniform and the haircut (which you're wrong about) you're fixating on racial markers. Believe it or not people of other races often have difficulty distinguishing caucasians from each other. Your viewpoint is parochial, not objective.And f-ck it, they all do look the same.
If you google ‘looky man’ you may see-flaggETERNAL wrote: Will you cnuts stop arguing about whether or not it was racist and tell me how it's supposed to be a joke? Aren't jokes supposed to be funny?
Does that handsome gent sell backpacks. I like what Im seeing. Also, the backpack looks a good deal.Plato'sCave wrote:Mick Mannock wrote:Plato'sCave wrote:What is it with those guys in the photo that makes them look like beach sellers in Marbella ?
Do we have a photo of those Marbella beach sellers?
This is what the internet says
RodneyRegis wrote:All true, but are caucasians racist because Africans look the same to them?koroke hangareka wrote:Sure thing. The problem is equating this:Mog The Almighty wrote:
Most people's have extremely similar coloured eye colour, hair colour, skin color, hair texture, etc. compared to Caucasians where its entirely possible that even brothers may have red or bloke or brown or black hair, curly, Davey, straight, blue, brown or green eyes, white freckled skin or dark olive skin. This is simply not the case for, say, Asians or Africans, in general.
This does not mean other people are identical. Just they look more similar than Caucasians. This is not a value judgement, neither thing is "better" or "worse", it's just an undeniable fact of human demography and reality. Please explain how that's "bullshit" WITHOUT resorting to strawman arguments.with this:They all have the same skin-colour, the same uniform, the same hair colour, the same eye colour, the same hair texture and very similar haircuts.
The picture you're looking at shows eleven distinctly different people. You think they look the same because you're seeing just the similarities. Leaving out the uniform and the haircut (which you're wrong about) you're fixating on racial markers. Believe it or not people of other races often have difficulty distinguishing caucasians from each other. Your viewpoint is parochial, not objective.And f-ck it, they all do look the same.
No, and nobody is saying so.
Perhaps Sugar is making a joke at his own expense, based on his innate inability to tell the difference between African people, and the general disposition of western people to differentiate based on hair colour etc?
He's poking fun at himself by suggesting that members of a national football team moonlight selling trinkets on a beach in Spain? Perhaps not.
Or perhaps he's just an out of touch plum. Either way, not really worth all the outrage.
What outrage?
Only if genetic diversity only controls facial appearance.Farva wrote:He said most races look more alike than caucasians.Seneca of the Night wrote:Er, that's not what he was talking about you obtuse freak.Farva wrote:But that isnt the case Mog. They appear the same to you. Most African nations are far more diverse geneticalky than Caucasian majoity people.Mog The Almighty wrote:F-ck a duck. This is just denial of reality.koroke hangareka wrote:
Re the bolded bit. Bullshit. Is that clear enough for you?
Most ethnicities have extremely similar coloured eye colour, hair colour, skin color, hair texture, etc. compared to Caucasians where its entirely possible that even brothers may have red or blonde or brown or black hair, curly, wavey, straight, blue, brown or green eyes, white freckled skin or dark olive skin. This is simply not the case for, say, Asians or Africans, in general.
This does not mean other people are identical. Just they look more similar than Caucasians. This is not a value judgement, neither thing is "better" or "worse", it's just an undeniable fact of human demography and reality. Please explain how that's "bullshit" WITHOUT resorting to strawman arguments.
We need a way to measure that. Genetic diversity is a good measure IMO. If it is not perhaps explain why.
By that measure Mog is wrong.
What outrage? People calling for him to be sacked? I'm not talking about the bored, I'm talking about social media.koroke hangareka wrote:RodneyRegis wrote:All true, but are caucasians racist because Africans look the same to them?koroke hangareka wrote:Sure thing. The problem is equating this:Mog The Almighty wrote:
Most people's have extremely similar coloured eye colour, hair colour, skin color, hair texture, etc. compared to Caucasians where its entirely possible that even brothers may have red or bloke or brown or black hair, curly, Davey, straight, blue, brown or green eyes, white freckled skin or dark olive skin. This is simply not the case for, say, Asians or Africans, in general.
This does not mean other people are identical. Just they look more similar than Caucasians. This is not a value judgement, neither thing is "better" or "worse", it's just an undeniable fact of human demography and reality. Please explain how that's "bullshit" WITHOUT resorting to strawman arguments.with this:They all have the same skin-colour, the same uniform, the same hair colour, the same eye colour, the same hair texture and very similar haircuts.
The picture you're looking at shows eleven distinctly different people. You think they look the same because you're seeing just the similarities. Leaving out the uniform and the haircut (which you're wrong about) you're fixating on racial markers. Believe it or not people of other races often have difficulty distinguishing caucasians from each other. Your viewpoint is parochial, not objective.And f-ck it, they all do look the same.
No, and nobody is saying so.
Perhaps Sugar is making a joke at his own expense, based on his innate inability to tell the difference between African people, and the general disposition of western people to differentiate based on hair colour etc?
He's poking fun at himself by suggesting that members of a national football team moonlight selling trinkets on a beach in Spain? Perhaps not.
Or perhaps he's just an out of touch plum. Either way, not really worth all the outrage.
What outrage?