Re: England looking to poach Welsh openside
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:03 pm
This dude wouldn't be a loss, that blonde 7 who Scotland capped is more of a loss
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To be fair, he is giving Tom Curry a go and probably would have done the same with Jack Willis but for injury.eldanielfire wrote:The ironic thing is England are actually finally producing an Openside or two and Eddie doesn't really seem to give a f*ck!Jeff the Bear wrote:The thing with putting Shields at 7 is that he'd be a classic 6.5. The guy is a blindside for all money. It's like England never learn.sockwithaticket wrote:I don't follow Super Rugby that closely, so I don't see why they seem to want Shields in the side so desperately. Rhodes is good, but he shouldn't be played ahead of someone like Wilson.
Doubt he was on their radar, though. Scotland have a number of good flankers already, and this guy had made maybe a half-dozen starts for Newcastle when he was called up.Doc Rob wrote:His Dad George is a former Scotland player. And he played for Scotland in the JRWC. But no, I’m sure the SRU had never heard of him.sockwithaticket wrote:As the Welsh lads have pointed out above, Lewis isn't anywhere near the national side. There'd have to be an explosion at a capped Welsh opensides convention for him to get a shot, so it can't be that we're trying to stop them from poaching him. Did Scotland even know about Graham until Jones named him in an England squad (at which he duly got injured)? He'd only played a few Prem games at that point. SA aren't exactly crying out to cap 31 year olds with no international experience like Michael Rhodes, so if we do end up giving him a white shirt it won't be to stop them giving him a green one.backrow wrote:I wonder if Eddie wants to pinch these people, give them a cap against Italy or Scotland or someone else shite, then bin them forever, safe in the knowledge they can't change country.4071 wrote:So what did Gary Graham do wrong?
Or is Jones just going to call up every half decent foreign-but-England-eligible player for a couple of sessions (except, inexplicably, the English-but-foreign-eligible Polledri)?
Whatever Eddie's up to the logic seems to reside only with him.
Yeah agreed, but he'll be around when the international windows come around and is top quality to step in.Jeff the Bear wrote:All that being the case, he's still 4th choice, maybe even 5th choice backrow at the Blues.Ceejay wrote:Olly Rob is a fantastic player, man of the match performances galore. Sadly for him I don't think he fits the mould of a huge muscular seven for international rugby. We'll just keep him at the blues please where he's 100% appreciatedScrumhead wrote:Unfortunately I think Olly Robinson is damaged by association with his dad. He’s a good player and never really got the credit he was due.
Sam Lewis was great for Worcester last season and has started this season in similar form. Eddie loves a poach, but if that’s what we’re going to do I’d much prefer Lewis to Rhodes.
Jones did seem in an awful rush to cap Graham when he had really only just broken through. Same for Ben Vellacott, who also played U20 for us. Vellacott is at least English born, though. Not sure either of them have actually been capped yet though (or Cam Redpath, for that matter)4071 wrote:Doubt he was on their radar, though. Scotland have a number of good flankers already, and this guy had made maybe a half-dozen starts for Newcastle when he was called up.Doc Rob wrote:His Dad George is a former Scotland player. And he played for Scotland in the JRWC. But no, I’m sure the SRU had never heard of him.sockwithaticket wrote:As the Welsh lads have pointed out above, Lewis isn't anywhere near the national side. There'd have to be an explosion at a capped Welsh opensides convention for him to get a shot, so it can't be that we're trying to stop them from poaching him. Did Scotland even know about Graham until Jones named him in an England squad (at which he duly got injured)? He'd only played a few Prem games at that point. SA aren't exactly crying out to cap 31 year olds with no international experience like Michael Rhodes, so if we do end up giving him a white shirt it won't be to stop them giving him a green one.backrow wrote:I wonder if Eddie wants to pinch these people, give them a cap against Italy or Scotland or someone else shite, then bin them forever, safe in the knowledge they can't change country.4071 wrote:So what did Gary Graham do wrong?
Or is Jones just going to call up every half decent foreign-but-England-eligible player for a couple of sessions (except, inexplicably, the English-but-foreign-eligible Polledri)?
Whatever Eddie's up to the logic seems to reside only with him.
Graham and Velacott have both been called up. Think Graham made the bench in a match, but wasn’t used and is still technically free to play for Scotland as is Vellacott. Cam Redpath has attended training camps I believe but nothing else.4071 wrote:Jones did seem in an awful rush to cap Graham when he had really only just broken through. Same for Ben Vellacott, who also played U20 for us. Vellacott is at least English born, though. Not sure either of them have actually been capped yet though (or Cam Redpath, for that matter)Doc Rob wrote:Doubt he was on their radar, though. Scotland have a number of good flankers already, and this guy had made maybe a half-dozen starts for Newcastle when he was called up.sockwithaticket wrote:His Dad George is a former Scotland player. And he played for Scotland in the JRWC. But no, I’m sure the SRU had never heard of him.backrow wrote:As the Welsh lads have pointed out above, Lewis isn't anywhere near the national side. There'd have to be an explosion at a capped Welsh opensides convention for him to get a shot, so it can't be that we're trying to stop them from poaching him. Did Scotland even know about Graham until Jones named him in an England squad (at which he duly got injured)? He'd only played a few Prem games at that point. SA aren't exactly crying out to cap 31 year olds with no international experience like Michael Rhodes, so if we do end up giving him a white shirt it won't be to stop them giving him a green one.4071 wrote:
I wonder if Eddie wants to pinch these people, give them a cap against Italy or Scotland or someone else shite, then bin them forever, safe in the knowledge they can't change country.
Whatever Eddie's up to the logic seems to reside only with him.