Re: All Blacks vs Wallabies Tokyo 27 October
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:12 am
Aaron Smiths been mud this year, not playing his natural quick ball game. Faf outplayed him in both tests and it seemed to really unsettle Smith.
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Could it be something to do with slick passers like Smith and Mo'unga coming on late to put the flash ball runners into space?jdogscoop wrote:Perenara isn't a very intelligent player IMHO, but then again it's not Smith's strongest suit either! TJ has a starting spot to try and prove the doubters wrong.Peteray wrote:It seems strange that Smith is usurped at 9. Perenara hasn't been that brilliant in spite of coming on against tiring packs, and was embarrassingly run down by Whiteley just a couple of weeks back. On the whole, with Goodhue unavailable, it's a pretty solid team with Naholo the unluckiest. He could still play a big part in the RWC though, as he and Reiko are the only specialist wings, and they won't want Reiko to play every week.
Wobs by 16 points and we will never hear the end of the Irish.saffer13 wrote:mr bungle wrote:All Blacks are on 92, Ireland 90.saffer13 wrote:If the AB's lose to a 7th ranked team, does Ireland become #1?
A draw sees NZ drop 1 ranking point.
1-15 point loss NZ drop 2 ranking points.
15+ point loss NZ drop 3 ranking points.
TJP subbed on against SA in our last game and made a huge difference. I’d go as far as to say he was the spark for our improved performance at the end.Peteray wrote:It seems strange that Smith is usurped at 9. Perenara hasn't been that brilliant in spite of coming on against tiring packs, and was embarrassingly run down by Whiteley just a couple of weeks back. On the whole, with Goodhue unavailable, it's a pretty solid team with Naholo the unluckiest. He could still play a big part in the RWC though, as he and Reiko are the only specialist wings, and they won't want Reiko to play every week.
Looks an uninspiring lot! I'm very confident.mojo wrote:Anyone put the wobs team up yet? Here it is if not. Coleman out with groin injury.
Wallabies 15-1: Dane Haylett-Petty, Sefa Naivalu, Israel Folau, Kurtley Beale, Marika Koroibete, Bernard Foley, Will Genia, David Pocock, Michael Hooper, Ned Hanigan, Rob Simmons, Izack Rodda, Allan Alaalatoa, Folau Fainga’a, Scott Sio
Reserves: Tolu Latu, Sekope Kepu, Taniela Tupou, Rory Arnold, Jack Dempsey, Pete Samu, Nick Phipps, Samu Kerevi, Tom Banks
Ok sweet, would suck if he wasn't on the EOYT.The Native wrote:Goodhue is crook so just misses the one game. Crotty will be subbed for ALB, not SBW.
That appears to be a team the ABs will defecate on with ease unless they are utterly distracted and disaffected.mojo wrote:Anyone put the wobs team up yet? Here it is if not. Coleman out with groin injury.
Wallabies 15-1: Dane Haylett-Petty, Sefa Naivalu, Israel Folau, Kurtley Beale, Marika Koroibete, Bernard Foley, Will Genia, David Pocock, Michael Hooper, Ned Hanigan, Rob Simmons, Izack Rodda, Allan Alaalatoa, Folau Fainga’a, Scott Sio
Reserves: Tolu Latu, Sekope Kepu, Taniela Tupou, Rory Arnold, Jack Dempsey, Pete Samu, Nick Phipps, Samu Kerevi, Tom Banks
At least Sefa can defend well.Matt Henjak wrote:Naivalu won't make us competitive with NZ, but him and Koroibete together will be fun to watch in coming games.
I would have preferred Simmons and Arnold with Rodda on the bench. We are lacking grunt in that back 5. We are also lacking a second fullback. I assume that Foley and KB will drop back in defence.Zakar wrote:At least Sefa can defend well.Matt Henjak wrote:Naivalu won't make us competitive with NZ, but him and Koroibete together will be fun to watch in coming games.
It's not a terrible team, and as much shitting on Simmons is fun, he's at least good in the set piece, and always lifts for the allblacks.
Maybe he'll take the mantle of hard man scowls champion now that Cane is out injured. Competition will be immense from Squire though.
1. The cupboard is bare at 13 ATM. It was either Folou, Kerevi who hasn't played in months, or a bloke only just old enough to vote.Mog The Almighty wrote:Why is Folau playing at #13 now?
FFS leave arguably the best fullback in the world (or at least in the running for it) at f-cking fullback. How hard is that? While you're at it. leave the best 7 in the world at 7 and select a proper 8.
I've been going on about this forever. Experimental selections are not going to save Australian rugby. Basics and consistent selections.
Maybe read the thread next time, it’s not a long one.mightyreds wrote:So that is what the Hobbitlanders on this thread have been calling their C-team all week? The ABs might be in trouble if they followed the selections of these guys.
As for the Wallabies, glad to see Folau at 13 - it's probably his most natural position, and he had a great season for the Waratahs there a little while back. I also would have liked to see Arnold start with Simmons, and Rodda on the bench. Simmons is quite deserving of the start, AC injury or not. His good form this year has been unacknowledged; his best season for us, albeit off the bench. He upped his game this year and his strong carries and involvement were a welcome sight when the starting locks often lacked impact, though Rodda redeemed himself in the 2nd Argentina game.
Sefa N is hopefully back to full speed, because that is very fast, and that is actually a damned good Wallabies backline - forwards, do whatever it takes to get quality ball to them!
If Banks comes on for DHP (unlikely unless injured), that will be out fastest backline in decades.mightyreds wrote:So that is what the Hobbitlanders on this thread have been calling their C-team all week? The ABs might be in trouble if they followed the selections of these guys.
As for the Wallabies, glad to see Folau at 13 - it's probably his most natural position, and he had a great season for the Waratahs there a little while back. I also would have liked to see Arnold start with Simmons, and Rodda on the bench. Simmons is quite deserving of the start, AC injury or not. His good form this year has been unacknowledged; his best season for us, albeit off the bench. He upped his game this year and his strong carries and involvement were a welcome sight when the starting locks often lacked impact, though Rodda redeemed himself in the 2nd Argentina game.
Sefa N is hopefully back to full speed, because that is very fast, and that is actually a damned good Wallabies backline - forwards, do whatever it takes to get quality ball to them!
DHP is class and looks good wherever he plays. I wouldn't leave him out of any side, but you're missing the point. 13 is not Folau's position. He's not a great passer of the ball and it somewhat neutralizes his greatest strength, under the high ball. Also, the point is to stop switching selections and players and positions around. Consistency in selection is so underrated imo. If our best 13s are out, select the next best 13. Might even be a revelation. Once they were established must-pick starters, You never saw Nonu or Umaga or Mortlock playing at inside one week, left wing the next, full back the next, etc. You put them in their best and most natural positions. If you really think it's a great idea to make Folau at 13, make him a 13, consistently. Not just throw him in there against the ABs and see what happens. Lost? Okay, let's try right wing next week. That has never worked.Zakar wrote:1. The cupboard is bare at 13 ATM. It was either Folou, Kerevi who hasn't played in months, or a bloke only just old enough to vote.Mog The Almighty wrote:Why is Folau playing at #13 now?
FFS leave arguably the best fullback in the world (or at least in the running for it) at f-cking fullback. How hard is that? While you're at it. leave the best 7 in the world at 7 and select a proper 8.
I've been going on about this forever. Experimental selections are not going to save Australian rugby. Basics and consistent selections.
2. DHP has been better at fullback than Folou the last few games. Considerably better.
naki wrote:15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Ben Smith, 13. Ryan Crotty, 12. Sonny Bill Williams, 11. Rieko Ioane, 10. Beauden Barrett, 9. TJ Perenara, 8. Kieran Read ©, 7. Ardie Savea, 6. Liam Squire, 5. Scott Barrett, 4. Sam Whitelock, 3. Owen Franks, 2. Codie Taylor, 1. Joe Moody.
Reserves: 16. Nathan Harris, 17. Karl Tu'inukuafe, 18. Nepo Laulala, 19. Brodie Retallick, 20. Matt Todd, 21. Aaron Smith, 22. Richie Mo'unga, 23. Anton Lienert-Brown.
Tehui wrote:naki wrote:15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Ben Smith, 13. Ryan Crotty, 12. Sonny Bill Williams, 11. Rieko Ioane, 10. Beauden Barrett, 9. TJ Perenara, 8. Kieran Read ©, 7. Ardie Savea, 6. Liam Squire, 5. Scott Barrett, 4. Sam Whitelock, 3. Owen Franks, 2. Codie Taylor, 1. Joe Moody.
Reserves: 16. Nathan Harris, 17. Karl Tu'inukuafe, 18. Nepo Laulala, 19. Brodie Retallick, 20. Matt Todd, 21. Aaron Smith, 22. Richie Mo'unga, 23. Anton Lienert-Brown.
it's a painting...Fat Old Git wrote:How old is that Picture?Kiwias wrote:
Houses, too, were cheaper. The median Sydney house price for the June quarter of 2002 was just $447,115
Elvis topped the charts in the month the Wallabies last won the Bledisloe.J Man wrote:The last time the Wallabies won the Bledisloe Cup:
Houses, too, were cheaper. The median Sydney house price for the June quarter of 2002 was just $447,115
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 03z5r.html
Mr Mike wrote:Elvis topped the charts in the month the Wallabies last won the Bledisloe.J Man wrote:The last time the Wallabies won the Bledisloe Cup:
Houses, too, were cheaper. The median Sydney house price for the June quarter of 2002 was just $447,115
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 03z5r.html
Mr Mike wrote:Elvis topped the charts in the month the Wallabies last won the Bledisloe.J Man wrote:The last time the Wallabies won the Bledisloe Cup:
Houses, too, were cheaper. The median Sydney house price for the June quarter of 2002 was just $447,115
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 03z5r.html
Taranaki Snapper wrote:it's a painting...Fat Old Git wrote:How old is that Picture?Kiwias wrote:
It may have been Tindall or Hape.Olo wrote:It seems an age since Morty played. Wasn’t it him who destroyed SBW in his first international?
I think Mortlock smashed him in an Aus v BaaBaa's match in Aus, which was before his AB debut.Mr Mike wrote:It may have been Tindall or Hape.Olo wrote:It seems an age since Morty played. Wasn’t it him who destroyed SBW in his first international?
6 months into his career as a rugby player and while he was still with Toulon, IIRC. Mortlock was clearly miffed that SBW had waltzed past him moments before, it was a great hitJay Cee Gee wrote:I think Mortlock smashed him in an Aus v BaaBaa's match in Aus, which was before his AB debut.Mr Mike wrote:It may have been Tindall or Hape.Olo wrote:It seems an age since Morty played. Wasn’t it him who destroyed SBW in his first international?